Hacker alert

  • Short sweet and to the point

    I am an xbox 1 player stalked by a PC player. For 2 hrs we, 4 man crew, had the upper hand. We hit the outpost auder attack by PC selling off the booty then suddenly I'm locked out of the sale.
    How and y is the PC player able to restrict using the sale menu. Don't have to say we lost it all to him because he was a hacker. 6 solid hrs of work 4 nothing. Not right ***


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  • @hippimonstar Ahoy matey!

    If you believe a player has been using illegitimate tactics in the game, you can submit a support ticket to Rare Player Support.

    If you use the Rare player support link Rare will take a look at the data and squash any issues and deal with any players found to be cheating or hacking.

  • Always report them! It is really sad so many players want to cheat. It does not help that the sites out there these days offering hacks and cheats are promoting such things positively. Almost like it is better, even a right to cheat. Only way it is going to stop in any game is increased awareness and reporting.

  • We had something similar a few months back - of course reported it, and the opposing crew - but we were unable to sell loot at an outpost too. We did learn however if you go to another outpost you can sell items.

    The response we got from filing a support ticket was that it was an unfortunate timed bug.

  • Thats actually an ingame bug that you got screwed over by sadly one that i have reported to rare consistently and brought up multiple times its an interaction bug preventing the user from opening the stronghold, using supply barrels, or selling items

  • @blatantwalk4260 any idea what triggers it? i don't think I've had it happen, but I've had friends unable to draw weapons or pick up bananas/planks/cannonballs after death and respawn. i think they had to leave and rejoin which definitely isn't an option in the scenario OP was in 🤣

  • @maquark said in Hacker alert:

    @blatantwalk4260 any idea what triggers it? i don't think I've had it happen, but I've had friends unable to draw weapons or pick up bananas/planks/cannonballs after death and respawn. i think they had to leave and rejoin which definitely isn't an option in the scenario OP was in 🤣

    Yeah I have not seen this bug either other than what you described. It has happened to me my crew unfortunately during the skeleton fleet battles. We ended up with a black screen locked in the brig, for no reason or voting in the brig, when spawning back in. Crew had to vote us out. Then we could not interact with anything, draw our weapons, etc. until after we died again or logged out and back in.

    There are hacks out there that do let players do ridiculous things in the game that they should not be able to.

  • What would even make someone believe this was a "PC hack"?
    How the bloody hell would this even be possible?

    For C****t sake people, grow up!
    Stop blaming PC players for everything.

    Now that it's been identified and confirmed as a bug can someone please edit the thread title?

  • @admiral-rrrsole when you're in the heat of the game, and as an Xbox player myself, it is unfortunate that you do assume a weird one-time bug in the game during another crew encounter = someone hacking.

    I'll put my hands up - me and my crew thought it could have been a hack (albeit far fetched) - so it's understandable why others can think the same.

    Just my two pence

  • Another case of Xbox player crying wolf at a PC player with absolutely no way of even knowing if that part of the cry is true. They lose so it must be a PC player or Hacker. Blaming it on both sounds even better so why not eh? Just completely sad when I see it now. What a crutch of an excuse to keep in your arsenal.

  • @thetwistedtaste Yeah sorry I may have over reacted but it just frustrates me so much when PC players are accused of everything.

    The wind changed direction, it must be a PC hack.
    This OP complaint is just as far fetched as the above example.

  • If you come flying into a outpost it can take sometime for it it let ya sell. I have had it where shops were even empty. No gold hoarder in tent.just empty tent like he's on a lunch break.

  • @hippimonstar No hacker can do what you described. It's impossible. I'm sorry you lost your loot, but it was a bug, not a hacker.

  • @admiral-rrrsole I agree. This reactionary anti-PC hysteria must stop. Not everyone who's good at the game is a PC player, and not all PC players are "hackers." Rare has a zero-tolerance policy towards hackers. If anybody (PC or Xbox) is caught cheating, they are banned for life. While hacking can and does happen, it's not that common. It mostly takes the form of game assists, like aimbots, etc. Such hacks can read data coming from the game to assist their own playing, but can't magically impose their will on other players. In the situation described above, my first reaction would be "bug," not "hacker." Granted, it's a very unfortunately timed bug, but a bug nevertheless.

  • I've only encountered two hacks since launch. A lag spike and an aimbot. You may have just glitched my friend. It would be like...world class hacker to do what you described. I wouldn't jump on the anti-pc train.

  • @thetwistedtaste Yeah mate, I can relate to the point you are making but PC gamers aren't immune to hacks or bugs either.
    We endure lag spikes too but don't go blaming Xbox gamers or anyone for that matter.

    All of these accusations make us PC gamers look like we're all a bunch of cheats and they make you console gamers look like a bunch of whiners.
    It doesn't do anyone any good.

    We're all gamers with a common interest. We shouldn't turn on each other for no reason.

  • @admiral-rrrsole Amen!

  • @maquark It seems to occur on death after coming back from the ferry

  • There seems to be different variations on what the bug effects as well I hope rare starts to prioritize it because as you see from OP post it can be game breaking

  • @admiral-rrrsole There are hacks available for the xbox as well though cross platform never appealed to me just because The negatives on both sides arent worth it. Pc players hav to deal with a game that has to be optimized down for xbox. The xbox players now have to compete against the pc community which despite arguments does have the edge over xbox which is frustrating

  • This post is just sad Op......

    When a Xbox player loose to Xbox they blame Pc

    When something bad happens ingame they blame Pc

    When Xbox players gets salty they blame pc.

    When there Tv Explodes at home they blame Pc

    When pig’s fly they blame Pc

    What Im trying to say is........

    This hate needs to stop!!
    Im a pc player and Xbox players kills me also!!! Im not undead!!!
    Either u adapt play,kill

    And to topic....

    Yeah the game have alot of bug’s!!!

  • @blatantwalk4260 I believe your comment for the most part but I have a 2 year old PC that barely scrapes in the minimum requirements to play SoT. It won't play games like "Forza Horizon 3" or "State of Decay 2" where as xbox can.

    I don't mean for it to turn into yet another PC v Xbox debate but....
    My frame rate average is 15 fps, half of Xbox. It never exceeds 20 fps, two thirds of Xbox.
    My monitor is a modest 19 inch as opposed to the huge 4k family TV most Xbox player use.
    My mouse and keyboard are basic cheap stock found in variety stores.

    So where's this "PC advantage" or "edge" you speak of? lol

  • @admiral-rrrsole character spin rate. It's the only advantage I think has any weight. But that doesn't even matter because pc players/xbox are matched indiscriminately unless it's a crew of pc friends, which I'm sure is rare.

    The xbox/pc debates should just be locked. It's ridiculous.

  • @violentandroid I think if I tried a faster spin rate I'd fall off my PC chair. lol
    I don't have the eyes to keep up with players jumping about my ship as it is.

  • @admiral-rrrsole well that comes down to the pay to win with a proper keyboard and mouse as well as a invested pc. You can get turn rates that an xbox player cant, better load in times from the ferry, faster hot swapping on guns to double shoot players. There are things that just cant be done on the xbox juat because you have an older pc doesnt mean there isnt someone who dropped about 3k on his whole setup. While with the xbox the only variation is the 3 console types and an elite controller.

  • @blatantwalk4260 Yes, pay to win is a double edged sword.
    I could buy an Xbox to get better performance than my current PC just like console players could buy a PC instead of crying about how unfair it is that their VW Beetle doesn't out perform a Ferrari.

    The point is, not everyone can afford to throw 3k or more at a gaming PC which is outdated within 6 months. So not all SoT PC players are on these million dollar super computers.
    Serious gamers will more than likely play serious games that require these serious systems..... seriously. lol

    Because I'm in Australia playing on American servers my ping exceeds 300. I doubt that my load times from the Ferry are any better than yours.

    By the way, my mate can hot swap / double shoot on his Xbox just as well as any PC gamer.
    The game itself prevents any advantage there.

  • @admiral-rrrsole there is a delay on the xbox that pc players dont have that allow them to shoot both weapons at the same time. That is the exact point as to why cross platform is suchh an issue xbox players dont wamt to interract with pay to win pc try hards. I usually dont bring it up because i know its a permanent mistake that is here to stay sadly

  • @blatantwalk4260 said

    there is a delay on the xbox that pc players dont have that allow them to shoot both weapons at the same time.

    This was proven NOT to be the case in @Blooddoll22 's video of proof showing the same exploit done equally as fast on both gaming systems.
    As he said, he learnt how to double shoot on the Xbox before ever doing it on the PC.

  • @blatantwalk4260 said in Hacker alert:

    @admiral-rrrsole there is a delay on the xbox that pc players dont have that allow them to shoot both weapons at the same time.

    As @admiral-rrrsole pointed out, that has proven to be a myth. Besides, it would be quite easy for Rare to fix, were they so inclined. Maybe they will. In the meantime, if you want to perfect the technique yourself on Xbox, there's nothing stopping you. I'm a PC user and have never used this trick in PvP. Every technique has advantages and disadvantages, and each takes practice to perfect. It's not something every PC player can magically do while Xbox users can't. It requires skill and effort, either way.

    xbox players dont wamt to interract with pay to win pc try hards.

    That's a pretty snarky comment. I didn't build this computer to play Sea of Thieves. The fact that I have a high-end PC does not make me a "pay to win pc try hard". Besides, in my experience, what you said simply isn't true. I've played with people on both platforms equally. While it's generally accepted that PC users have an edge, that doesn't stop anybody from playing together. I've been on crews with all Xbox players (aside from me) that absolutely dominated the server. It didn't matter who we went up against. And their success certainly had nothing to do with my contribution. Even though I'm on PC, I still stink at PvP.

    I maintain that the best platform is the one you're most skilled with. I know PC users who insist on using the controller because that's what they're best with. I know console players who have high-end PCs but still prefer to play on Xbox. It's just a matter of preference. Even if there are advantages to playing on PC, they're not universal, and they're not insurmountable. Sea of Thieves is a pretty simple game. Any theoretical advantage for PC users doesn't amount to much of a practical advantage.

    I usually dont bring it up because i know its a permanent mistake that is here to stay sadly

    I agree that it's here to stay, but whether it's a "mistake" or not is highly debatable. I think whatever challenges crossplay may bring are outweighed by the advantages. I love playing with my Xbox friends. Since the majority of players are still on Xbox, I'd hate to see crossplay end. I think that would be an even bigger mistake.

  • @blatantwalk4260 said in Hacker alert:

    @admiral-rrrsole well that comes down to the pay to win with a proper keyboard and mouse as well as a invested pc. You can get turn rates that an xbox player cant, better load in times from the ferry, faster hot swapping on guns to double shoot players. There are things that just cant be done on the xbox juat because you have an older pc doesnt mean there isnt someone who dropped about 3k on his whole setup. While with the xbox the only variation is the 3 console types and an elite controller.

    Xbox1X has 60fps and faster load times, 600$
    there is the Controller Elite that has much better handling and performance... 150$
    Xbox Live Gold (50$ over 4-5 years (lifespan of a console before upgrades)) 250$

    Congrats you just paid what the average gamer pays for his computer. 1000$

    but sure... PCs are Pay to Win.

  • @admiral-rrrsole I dont think his video is legit I am still get a solid second swapping animation im almost certain that video is edited to spread a lie. Also xbox1x fps isnt a full 60fps it usually stays at like 45 while my friends pc holds at 127fps. He also gets an instant spawn from the ferry door while mine is like 10 to 20 seconds

  • @blatantwalk4260 said in Hacker alert:

    @admiral-rrrsole well that comes down to the pay to win with a proper keyboard and mouse as well as a invested pc. You can get turn rates that an xbox player cant, better load in times from the ferry, faster hot swapping on guns to double shoot players. There are things that just cant be done on the xbox juat because you have an older pc doesnt mean there isnt someone who dropped about 3k on his whole setup. While with the xbox the only variation is the 3 console types and an elite controller.

    Does the elite controller offer any benefit in SoT? Never considered buying one

  • No lets got to the fact that even will sensitivity all the way up my rotation speed isnt even a quarter of his and he can jump rotate and double shoot me or someone else because he has a 120 dollar mouse. You want to bring up that xbox players have nothing to complain about but they really do which the only way to fix is to fps lock the game below 60, lock the turning speed to be exactly the same for everyone, put a stamina bar to jumping, as well as make both pc and xbox have the same weapon swapping animations and the same delay.

  • @violentandroid kinda a mouse and keyboard will still make you 3 times more effective

  • @squaz05 said in Hacker alert:

    @blatantwalk4260 said in Hacker alert:

    @admiral-rrrsole well that comes down to the pay to win with a proper keyboard and mouse as well as a invested pc. You can get turn rates that an xbox player cant, better load in times from the ferry, faster hot swapping on guns to double shoot players. There are things that just cant be done on the xbox juat because you have an older pc doesnt mean there isnt someone who dropped about 3k on his whole setup. While with the xbox the only variation is the 3 console types and an elite controller.

    Xbox1X has 60fps and faster load times, 600$
    there is the Controller Elite that has much better handling and performance... 150$
    Xbox Live Gold (50$ over 4-5 years (lifespan of a console before upgrades)) 250$

    Congrats you just paid what the average gamer pays for his computer. 1000$

    but sure... PCs are Pay to Win.

    Well I have an x. Its 60fps at 1080. But if u have an x, u likely have a 4k tv; which drops fps down to 30. I prefer 4k over fps on a big screen

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