I really want to say that this game is amazing first and foremost, but come on Rare, this game is such a disadvantage to console players. I played for about 16 hours today and was destroyed by pc players who either froze me to kill me or free looted by hacking and glitching. My brother, my friend and I lost 5 Skull forts to these players who cheat. You say get their names but how when they spawn kill you or hack u out the server. It is really starting to get to the point where I and my brother and the friends we played with don't even wanna play anymore. You guys should really consider fixing this problem cause I'm starting to feel like I was played for my money. I am at the point where I'm looking into a way to hold rare responsible for the $60 I wasted on a game that u allow people to break federal offenses by hacking ur software and I know that there are many things u can do to track and ban the hackers. I refuse to continue to buy any of ur games until u guys can fix this problem of YOURS.
PC hackers
I've played since launch and the beta before then.
I've played on servers servicing America, Australia and The Netherlands and although some cheats are out there alright, I can't say with certainty that I've ever been on a server with anyone who uses cheats.I video record all of my game sessions. I suggest everybody does the same.
This way, if need be, you can report the gamer tag (use slow-motion or pause to spot them) and show proof to Rare.
If the session appeared clean, simply delete it. Rinse and repeat.If the frequency of "hackers" has come to this point for you then why haven't you done anything constructive about it?
For the record, you are giving them way too much credit.
There are very few "hackers" out there. Just because someone buys or downloads a pre-made hack to use just makes them shameless pitiful cheats, nothing more.
Hacking would require some functioning brain cells.@zombielovers420 Letting you know as a cable technician the storm rolling through texas has been an issue to our stuff if your in texas, also nationwide there are things going on in the background so if you internet has been choppy for the past 2 weeks thats the reason.
But your freezing sounds like internet issues. You have an option to show you ping and fps rate for the game. Turn on your options and keep an eye on it.
I'm always skeptical whenever someone claims that someone else is hacking or cheating.
As others have said, it might be you having a bad connection. Might want to check that out before calling people hackers.
Also, my friend on PC plays with an Xbox controller, and does better with it than most PC players. Claiming that consoles are at a disadvantage is solely an individual skill issue, not an issue of necessarily playing via an inferior method.
@cpt-vunderbar
& we are always very skeptical of 'friends' who say there is no advantage even though it is clear as day & is a widely discussed topic.@capt-1nsane
I mean, he's been playing since the beginning, and has literally never used pc controls despite having the game on pc. I'm sorry for the people who are on console and can't grasp the controls well enough to be effective in game.Really not sure what to tell you other than to either switch to pc or just get better at the console controls.
Typically, most first person games are made with PC controls in mind, while the console version is usually a port. Blame the game developers for that practice. Or, just adapt, and stop complaining about pc players having an advantage. Not sure what else to tell you.
@cpt-vunderbar I hear what you're saying. But, in my opinion, the crossplay feature shouldn't have been in from the start.
@cpt-vunderbar
PC players have a clear advantage, & is widely discussed across the internet. kb+m is a far superior input method & a controller cannot compete. If you don't believe me type in google & see how many results & information you get.
I am at the ceiling on the controller so cannot 'get better' & cannot compete with similarly skilled pc players.
You are obviously another of the PCMR so there is no point in discussing this with you (or your 'friend')
Keep enjoying your advantage ;)@admiral-rrrsole
The problem is now there are more hacks & the main issue is the one that makes the player name invisible.
Making reporting said player a real issue as you cannot find out who the cheater is.Pretty much what a lot of people here are saying, which is you should probably check to see if the problem lies with you and not others. It's best to research what's going on before you put out a blame against pc users and complain to Rare about it. The forums already have enough of this nonsense as it is.
@zombielovers420 You make it sounds like all PC players are hackers. Which is not true. They can't "hack" you out of server. Also I think majority of players are xbox, so the chances are that the crews you met at forts were not all PC players either.
Also, they do ban people hacking. Not so long ago they handed out bans for hacking. Are you sure it's not just a issue of you and your crew not being as good as you think you are ?
I played more than 700 hours at Sea of Thieves, I fell 2x against cheaters, and 2x I had doubts. So worst case 1 encounter against cheaters every 180 hours of play Frankly it's excellent. Yes it is a problem but the miracle solutions do not exist.
For info, the sword shots freeze the opponents! It's annoying, the gameplay in land combat deserves to be reviewed. but it's not cheating.
@sir-saltybeard said in PC hackers:
I feel like we should start a petition on this topic. Everyone I have come accross in this game agrees there should be optional crossplay. Every console player out there will get boarded by a pc player one day and get ruined - not just because of "hacks" but because of console limitations.
1 optional crossplay is not optional since every Xbox player will turn it off immediately and never look back... is it really optional or is it one of those things that you turn off the first thing you do (like turning off Vsynch).
- what will happen when Microsoft gets the proprietary Xbox Mouse and Keyboard? will you demand optional crossplay controllers only servers? What about FPS? 30FPS vs 60FPS, will you demand now to split optional crossplay controllers only 30fps only servers?
@squaz05
why would every xbox player turn it off?
especially as all we ever hear is how the advantage is minimal & they just need to improve or buy a pc.@personalc0ffee yes, but the gameplay is too basic. It lacks a lot of technicality. See the dash jumped useless, so much that they are slow.
@capt-1nsane said in PC hackers:
@cpt-vunderbar
PC players have a clear advantage, & is widely discussed across the internet. kb+m is a far superior input method & a controller cannot compete. If you don't believe me type in google & see how many results & information you get.
I am at the ceiling on the controller so cannot 'get better' & cannot compete with similarly skilled pc players.
You are obviously another of the PCMR so there is no point in discussing this with you (or your 'friend')
Keep enjoying your advantage ;)Just because many people complain about it doesn't make it true. Also, even if an advantage does exist, that doesn't mean it is as big as people make it seem (or even close). To claim that controller can't compete with kb+m is just asenine. I play on PC with a controller and not only can I compete but I dominate nearly everyone. If you can't compete against other players in this game it has nothing to do with your using a controller and if you think it's related then you are nowhere near the ceiling in terms of skill.
So many people are quick to complain that PC has advantage over xbox (the only real advantage here is turn speed which is a minimal advantage if you have awareness) but NOBODY talks about a glaring advantage that xbox has over PC. Xbox players can spam X to grab the ladder when attempting to board. PC players CANNOT map their controls in such a way to match this (they have to set one button to grab & let go of ladder, which makes it impossible to spam a button to grab a ladder). Any time the boat is moving, any time you can't see the ladder location (hiding under boat), any time you get disoriented, any time your adrenaline is pumping, this is an advantage that XBOX has over PC. Since boarding is basically the bread-and-butter of sinking enemy ships, this is a HUGE advantage. But NOBODY talks about it. If anything, XBOX has advantage over PC.
The only thing holding anyone back is their lack of a willingness to improve, their lack of experience, or their lack of intelligence. (Assuming absence of disabilities)
So many expert pc players seem to play on pc using a controller, even though any sort of pc player knows that a kb+m is superior.
Strange that isn't it, or when you start getting whooped do you just jump back on kb+m to make sure you win?
Give up with the small advantage rubbish, if you can turn 3 times as fast as me in CQC then that is a clear advantage. Also don't say you should never be in that position, because easily 75% of all ship to ship battles end because of boarders (hence CQC!)Another spam thread created by an OP with only 1 post. I'm Shocked!
@Capt-1nsane switching controls mid-fight is insta-death.
You can scream as often and as loud as you'd like, but it doesn't make you right.
@capt-1nsane said in PC hackers:
@squaz05
why would every xbox player turn it off?
especially as all we ever hear is how the advantage is minimal & they just need to improve or buy a pc.no,
rare should balance it out without adding optional crossplay
optional crossplay is a temp bandaid solution that will still be there when MS adds their own m/k for xbox
@zombielovers420 Me Matey....
If you have evidence that another was using a cheat or an exploit in Sea of Thieves, please log a ticket with our Player Support Team. Provide them with as much information as possible with what was happening, their gamertags (If you catch them) and any video evidence you might have, they will then open an investigation on this issue, although your problem also might be due to a connection issue.
Also, maybe someone could clarify how you know whether a pirate is using xbox over pc as I really can't tell. :)
Thank you!
I agree that something should be done to correct the PC/xbox disparity. Optional crossplay would keep xbox players(who are in the majority of SOT players) at the table longer. It seems xbox players play for a little bit and then leave. I can speculate the advantages PC has has something to do with it. So institute optional crossplay but have it defaulted as crossplay enabled. Heck, test the optional cross play with the pioneer program and see how people use it. What I'm saying is you cant have it both ways, you cant say there is no advantage while simultaneously claiming that everyone would disable crossplay. After all, if there is no advantage then why would people disable crossplay? Xbox players love SOT just as much as PC and make up the bulk of the player base. Maybe listen to their well founded suggestions and complaints instead of pretending they dont exist.
@cawolves said in PC hackers:
I agree that something should be done to correct the PC/xbox disparity. Optional crossplay would keep xbox players(who are in the majority of SOT players) at the table longer. It seems xbox players play for a little bit and then leave. I can speculate the advantages PC has has something to do with it. So institute optional crossplay but have it defaulted as crossplay enabled. Heck, test the optional cross play with the pioneer program and see how people use it. What I'm saying is you cant have it both ways, you cant say there is no advantage while simultaneously claiming that everyone would disable crossplay. After all, if there is no advantage then why would people disable crossplay? Xbox players love SOT just as much as PC and make up the bulk of the player base. Maybe listen to their well founded suggestions and complaints instead of pretending they dont exist.
- I can also speculate as to why xbox players leave... it might have to do something with lack of content and broken mechanics.
- It can be said both ways.
Why would you turn it off if there are no advantages claimed by PC players
Why would you turn it on if there are such advantages claimed by Xbox players. - Xbox players love SoT 86% more than PC players (At launch) and I can't speak for all PC players, but for myself and possibly a good chunk of other PC players SoT is a transition game. SoT has the quality and quantity of a small indy game. A game you play for a week or two while taking a small break from your main game (that actually has real content)
- They don't pretend the issues don't exist, they have stated they have heard the feedback and are looking into it.
well-founded complaints? sure, PC does have an advantage. Is Optional Crossplay the solution? Not when you want to pioneer the pilot crossplay concept so other consoles follow along.
the easy way out is to disable crossplay. and this will pull back gaming a decade,
instead, the hard to find solution is to find a way that PC and Consoles can co-exist simultaneously. Microsoft is in the business of innovation, not like Sony that just want the status quo. If Microsoft succeeds in finding a way to get PCs and Consoles playing together, Nintendo will follow and if Sony doesn't adapt, they will be left behind.
so your "the only solution is to quit and go back into our little bubble" is not helping the gaming community or the console community in advancing the gaming industry.
@squaz05 you summarized the problem well. My critique is that you dont like my (or many others) suggestion to make CP optional but do not pose any solutions. At least I have a suggestion to possibly fix the issue, maybe it's not the best but it's something. Tell us, oh wise seer, how would you solve this disparity?
@cawolves said in PC hackers:
@squaz05 you summarized the problem well. My critique is that you dont like my (or many others) suggestion to make CP optional but do not pose any solutions. At least I have a suggestion to possibly fix the issue, maybe it's not the best but it's something. Tell us, oh wise seer, how would you solve this disparity?
i don't get paid to think about solutions, that's on Rare.
I am customer, and I am happy to leave this game. I am on PC so reasons affecting Xbox also affect me. WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.
If Xbox players think there is a problem with balance they will leave, if Xbox players leave, the game dies. PCs suffer the consequences.
Since i am on PC, my reasons of leaving are due to content, mechanics, quality, price... SoT is a AAA priced indy game. That is why I don't play anymore
(why am I still here?: because I like to stay up to date with what is going on in the game hoping that maybe Content, Mechanics, quality and price change)@sir-saltybeard you should ask micro to give you console people a stable 60 fps system vs splitting the community.
