Again with the PC vs Xbox

Bruh...stop...this is whining...nothing constructive...

Meh. I don't find it to be an issue? I usually have a pc player on my own crew...

@grekerr If you don't like the competition just stop playing and play another solo game... the ansewr for this its NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! CROSSPLAY STAY!!!!

@grekerr said in Again with the PC vs Xbox:

This is a problem, why are you not doing anything about it.

I'm right there with you man, I feel that platform disparities should be eliminated as a first course in all games to the highest level possible.

PC players have the advantage with:
They can turn around/jump around 10x faster than Xbox players

Actually this isn't entirely true. We can turn more quickly based on sensitivity of the mouse and we do have the ability to face our camera more quickly as well. I.E. Looking up or some other direction. This is true. We don't actually jump faster. It's still a matter of hitting a button and awaiting a point in the animation where the game allows the repeat of the button press. That doesn't actually get faster on either KB or controller.

They can do more actions at same time

Not really. But not actually entirely incorrect either. We still rely on all the same input measures and action queues but it is true that we haven't a direct need for access to radials or other small slow downs. This allows us to change our actions more easily in many cases. That radial definitely makes a big difference.

Aiming is 10x easier

Quite the contrary. That's entirely player dependent and if you watched me shooting you'd understand. I actually aim a thousand times better when playing on the console. Thankfully this isn't a hit location oriented game so when I am on PC I can still hipfire and land most my shots. I almost never hit players when zoomed in. I will say it's more sensitive and we can adjust the aim much more carefully without overshooting the mark by having to deal with the 'fat fingering' that a joystick creates. But doing so with any alacrity isn't necessarily easier just because it's more nuanced. it really comes down to whom your dealing with.

Xbox players have a trigger that you have to push all the way in for it to activate the sword so it is not possible to compete vs a PC player

That's blowing the subject way out of proportion. They are still buttons and they still need to be pushed. They still need to rebound and then pushed again. A mouse is usually faster in micro seconds to push.. but SoT combat most certainly doesn't deal in microseconds!

PC players have better framerate and they can see their ping and firgure out where/when to shoot accourding to the latency

Entirely untrue with one exception. We can toggle a FPS and Ping counter. But watch one of my videos on an Alienware 1070... my fps drops to 5... then to 30...then 15...then 60... and so on. FPS isn't a perfect factor and many PC users complain about rebounding frames and odd slogs of processing that simply aren't dealt with on console due to simpler optimization on the software on behalf of the devs. Ping doesn't tell us where or when to shoot. It simply helps us know if we're looking at a latency issue when we wonder why our registered hit didn't kill our target it doesn't tell us how far to 'lead targets' for a successful hit anymore than it would for console. That is simply incorrect.

Of course you wont get alot of this on this forum because I dont know but let say 50% are PC players and of course they dont complain.

I can't speak for how many forum users are on PC in the least. I can say that only 14% of the total population at launch when the population was at a peak... were on PC. We're looking at averages of likely 200 thousand PC users of which many are also part time console players versus the total advertised 4 million players now.

Also, we do complain... alot. We complain about FPS issues, processing dumps, pc specific bugs, input lag, server de-synchronization, hardware weaknesses (believe it or not we're not all on super computers), hackers, aimbots, and so much more.

You also see in LFG section that many just want PC players in their group

This is true in many cases. But a fast flip through the forums might help you understand that PC players are constantly barraged with categorical insults, clumped together presumptions, and common harassment, let alone non-stop "get of my lawn-itis".

I did not create this post to whine, but to let Rare know that this is getting to me and making this game frustrating and not fun.

I been PL for a looong time and I am Athena 10 so the only thing I can do is PVP at fort now to have fun, witch it isnt anymore because of all above. And that not all but some PC players think they are superior because they kill you and give you s**t in gamechat how b****s they are and you know the reason is that they have the advantage

I assure you as a console and PC player I've encountered arrogant players in both 'camps'. Sadly, in my experience the jerks are the console players. But at least I won't dare to suggest that it's a trend in the console community.. Because it's an unfair insult to those who are not that sort of player.

If this crossplay would happend on Battlefield or COD it would be a riot straight away

Yes, more competitive games certainly demand more attention to platform balance and potential cheats. This is something that MS has to organize around if they want to maintain the console customers. I can't disagree and actually support it.

@xxmrvincexx the rules are touchy on posting videos but if couched properly it might slide. Also links are generally ok as long as the video isn't more than link leading outside of the forums for viewership. But calling players out is generally a big no-no particularly since there is always the potential for misreading a fact.

Bear in mind that your remarking upon something that sounds quite a bit like the sword thrust combined with the block/jump which is NOT a PC thing... it's a game exploit that hasn't been remedied. In part because it's been said Rare accepts it as something they want to keep for whatever reason.

The action is committed regardless of console/PC platform by blocking and holding the block then depressing the input for an attack which should wind up a thrust. Just before the thrust you hop, it takes some practiced timing. When performed correctly you can zoom across the length of a Galleon without effort as well as harm anything in your way.

@grekerr dijo en Again with the PC vs Xbox:

and they can see their ping and firgure out where/when to shoot accourding to the latency

Lol man that just made me imagine PC players as cold-blooded Stephen Hawking alike/type robots

Here's the thing.
Despite this being a pirate game and all players are criminals, everything Rare puts into the game is designed to bring players together. EVERYTHING.
In case you couldn't tell, this ain't Battlefield or CoD, but you'd like to treat other pirates like targets instead of engage in some other more friendly encounter?
Rare understands that not all players are going to play nice, but that's part of the magic of SoT. If your salty that it's not an even playing field, well SWAG baby. In the life of a pirate in SoT, when is anything ever fair?
So for Rare this is not a problem. What they are working on is improving crossplay in it's ability to bring players together, not considering splitting the playerbase.

@blooddoll22 It was not a block/jump because i saw that i hit him twice, If you go to my profile on the Xbox Live website you can see my recording of 1 day ago.

@grekerr I don't disagree my friend. I have a hostile tone often, and I do apologize for my tone in most of my posts. It's unforgivable but I do beg forgiveness if I come across violently. (With a few exceptions when I really am being mean lol).

I'll keep my reply short. For one, I hope you enjoy the game overall! We all love the game with varied exceptions, let's have a moment of breath to at least admit we're all here to have fun.

PC certainly has advantages. And, your summary is not incorrect! But it isn't irreconcilable and can be overcome in some small ways. I have issues with the mobility of PC players when I am on console as well. But with adaptation I have overcome it for the most part, with few exceptions. It should be known that I do not play on console with this username.

Sadly, your points have enough validity that it is very important that Rare work to overcome the edge. It is not something that is imagined entirely and deserves effort in correcting!

I'll find time to play on console and record it properly and I will share the video here. I believe it's easier to showcase the issue when trying to show how 'bad' it is. I will attempt to show the reverse indicate that it's not entirely as bad as people say... though yes... it is a thing.

@xxmrvincexx done and commented upon elsewhere. But notice this isn't a PC thing... just bear that in mind.

Keep up the fight. Its been talked about before on forums but needs to be a constant for change to happen. New players will come to voice their opinions. Keep it up.

@xxmrvincexx edit to be fair this is certainly not a PC related concern. This is entirely user based.

Tldr. @Deckhands can we get this post locked as it's another thread on a subject that just leads down a nasty rabbit hole.

Yeah I don't see this going anywhere neither. Pc/xbox both have their pros/cons. But FPS as an arguement? Come on..
I'll keep my 4k view @ 30fps all day. My only slight gripe is that increasing my sensitivity on controller is not even noticeable. But I'm sure there is more at play here with game stability. I'd rather have the pc/xbox debate than suffer a lack of cross-play. More players the merrier. It's like comparing a flight sim on console and pc...obviously, one prevails and one feels/looks like a Saturday morning cartoon.

There are hybrid mouse/controller options for Xbox, and word is that Keyboard/Mouse support is coming for Xbox One. If it bothers you that much, invest in a hybrid controller... all the analog advantages of a controller with the aiming accuracy of a mouse.

I’ve even started trying to train myself to use a mouse/controller combo on PC because I love the analog movement combined with the turning/aiming of the mouse.

Maybe its a silly comparison but do you think you have any chance agains pc players in other game like Battlefield or like Fortnite? Of course not, the pc players win like always. This is a same situation. To make 180 degrees turn on pc is 1sec for the xbox user 2-3sec. (even with full sensitivity). I don't say i don't like the cross platform stuff because i have many friend on pc. But is true this is not fair.

Just getting my upvote in before the deck hands shrug it off and avoid it like an ex lady

I support this..