If ye wonder why there are inactive forts

  • Ahoy maties!

    I was looking at reddit and I saw this official answer to why there are inactive forts in the game and if Rare will introduce something with them in the future:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Seaofthieves/comments/8yc9i7/has_rare_every_been_asked_what_the_deal_is_with/e29uhyv/

    The team is focused on some Forsaken awesomeness at the moment but I can't wait to see something new and thrilling with the other forts! And of course, I hope they'll be introduced with some lore! :D

    Anyway, the one I'd like the most to be active is Lost Gold Fort because of its secret passageways and everytime I go there I imagine a flying creature trying to protect its loot! (let me dream)

    Cheers!

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  • @skulliah I hope they bring the final ones to life soon, the tall ones really have me wanting to take them on! The twisting narrow pathways and heavily fortified ground level entrances will make them an interesting fight.

  • @musicmee Same, it could bring more cooperation between the players to overtake those ones. I'd love to see other threats in them than the skeletons :D

  • So......games not done yet..... and they release it. 😒

    Can you imagine reading a book and they just leave in some blank pages and they tell you they couldn't get to those because they were working on the other blank pages.

    .... not my best metaphor but at least I finished it before I posted it.

  • Honestly not sure how they couldn't get to them? Some are different in "level design", but they're the same concept (fort door with key hole, fort tower).

  • @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    So......games not done yet..... and they release it. 😒

    So do alot of games :) But for this one i payed 1 price and i know i get the rest for free (except possible micro transactions in the future) for some other games i am still paying (if i want to continue playing)

    Can you imagine reading a book and they just leave in some blank pages and they tell you they couldn't get to those because they were working on the other blank pages.

    I can a friend of mine is a writer and sometimes he finishes chapters before others to have the main lines up and some chapters tell a little side story so he writes them later :) So yeah i can.

    .... not my best metaphor but at least I finished it before I posted it.

    Yeah sort of....

    Kind regards
    Tango

  • @mr-shatango said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    So......games not done yet..... and they release it. 😒

    So do alot of games :) But for this one i payed 1 price and i know i get the rest for free (except possible micro transactions in the future) for some other games i am still paying (if i want to continue playing)

    Can you imagine reading a book and they just leave in some blank pages and they tell you they couldn't get to those because they were working on the other blank pages.

    I can a friend of mine is a writer and sometimes he finishes chapters before others to have the main lines up and some chapters tell a little side story so he writes them later :) So yeah i can.

    .... not my best metaphor but at least I finished it before I posted it.

    Yeah sort of....

    Kind regards
    Tango

    Yeah but other games have meaty content too.

  • @mr-shatango so he publishes books before there done? And what other games release before there done?

    Thanks
    Swag.
    P.C

  • yeah,
    In the test time, all the forts was active at one point. (active in they all had skeleton)
    It was kinda "fun" to have to choose, if you want to go near the fort an risk fire on you way to you next island.
    Could also be used as defense if you get chased.

  • @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @mr-shatango so he publishes books before there done? And what other games release before there done?

    Thanks
    Swag.
    P.C

    No you said can you imagine reading a book with blank pages in them and yes i can i proofread them sometimes :) Said nothing about publishing them. He gives me some chapters to read and asks me what i think happens in between and he takes that feedback to finish it

  • @korpus-draige said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @mr-shatango said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    So......games not done yet..... and they release it. 😒

    So do alot of games :) But for this one i payed 1 price and i know i get the rest for free (except possible micro transactions in the future) for some other games i am still paying (if i want to continue playing)

    Can you imagine reading a book and they just leave in some blank pages and they tell you they couldn't get to those because they were working on the other blank pages.

    I can a friend of mine is a writer and sometimes he finishes chapters before others to have the main lines up and some chapters tell a little side story so he writes them later :) So yeah i can.

    .... not my best metaphor but at least I finished it before I posted it.

    Yeah sort of....

    Kind regards
    Tango

    Yeah but other games have meaty content too.

    Describe meaty content?

  • Great post @Skulliah now one of my biggest questions has been answered :-)

  • @mr-shatango said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @mr-shatango so he publishes books before there done? And what other games release before there done?

    Thanks
    Swag.
    P.C

    No you said can you imagine reading a book with blank pages in them and yes i can i proofread them sometimes :) Said nothing about publishing them. He gives me some chapters to read and asks me what i think happens in between and he takes that feedback to finish it

    You pulled a Rare. You didn't finish your post. You forgot to answer my other question.

    Thanks.
    Tango.
    W/ Cheese.

  • Was really hoping these would go active with like a prisoner of war feature. Where you could capture other pirates and turn them in at the forts to hang in the cages, Requiring their crew to come and defeat the fort or pay a ransom to free their crew mate.

  • @mr-shatango said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @korpus-draige said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @mr-shatango said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    So......games not done yet..... and they release it. 😒

    So do alot of games :) But for this one i payed 1 price and i know i get the rest for free (except possible micro transactions in the future) for some other games i am still paying (if i want to continue playing)

    Can you imagine reading a book and they just leave in some blank pages and they tell you they couldn't get to those because they were working on the other blank pages.

    I can a friend of mine is a writer and sometimes he finishes chapters before others to have the main lines up and some chapters tell a little side story so he writes them later :) So yeah i can.

    .... not my best metaphor but at least I finished it before I posted it.

    Yeah sort of....

    Kind regards
    Tango

    Yeah but other games have meaty content too.

    Describe meaty content?

    Meaty content? Well, chasing and bringing back chickens is a side quest/mini-game in Zelda, which gave you a better reward for your efforts to help you on your adventure. This game has what would be fetch quests/side quests in ANY other game and uses them as a main part of the game. They bring out "timed campaigns" which was nothing more then more riddles. They need some lore, some actual real beasts to fight, some sort of real rewards, a point to spend money ect.

  • @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @mr-shatango said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @mr-shatango so he publishes books before there done? And what other games release before there done?

    Thanks
    Swag.
    P.C

    No you said can you imagine reading a book with blank pages in them and yes i can i proofread them sometimes :) Said nothing about publishing them. He gives me some chapters to read and asks me what i think happens in between and he takes that feedback to finish it

    You pulled a Rare. You didn't finish your post. You forgot to answer my other question.

    Thanks.
    Tango.
    W/ Cheese.

    Correct i got called away before finishing the post.
    Examples are ARK, Destiny 2 and also alot of early released games (Some also called early access) Like Inquisitor Martyr, Wich i think is now released fully.

    Also Dauntless could be called one i invested into the game and they showed great lack of content at the start but it turned out great in the end. Same with Warframe it started with a small player base and a few tile sets and turned out great.

  • @stubbierbell598

    Hey,

    do you consider every game, that has a dlc to be unfinished?

    because in that case, it's almost every game out there... also a good example of unfinished games releases would be all episodic titles. Everything from Telltale or Life is Strange etc.

    I've never seen a game (small indie titles excluded), that didn't have to cut some content to make a reasonable release date. And if you read through some interviews, devs usualy have no problem with admitting it. At some point you just have to stop adding and changing things and focus on testing and polishing. Otherwise you'd end up with another Duke Nukem Forever or Daikatana.

    And since you've mentioned books, how does Game of Thrones end again?

  • @korpus-draige said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @mr-shatango said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @korpus-draige said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @mr-shatango said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    So......games not done yet..... and they release it. 😒

    So do alot of games :) But for this one i payed 1 price and i know i get the rest for free (except possible micro transactions in the future) for some other games i am still paying (if i want to continue playing)

    Can you imagine reading a book and they just leave in some blank pages and they tell you they couldn't get to those because they were working on the other blank pages.

    I can a friend of mine is a writer and sometimes he finishes chapters before others to have the main lines up and some chapters tell a little side story so he writes them later :) So yeah i can.

    .... not my best metaphor but at least I finished it before I posted it.

    Yeah sort of....

    Kind regards
    Tango

    Yeah but other games have meaty content too.

    Describe meaty content?

    Meaty content? Well, chasing and bringing back chickens is a side quest/mini-game in Zelda, which gave you a better reward for your efforts to help you on your adventure. This game has what would be fetch quests/side quests in ANY other game and uses them as a main part of the game. They bring out "timed campaigns" which was nothing more then more riddles. They need some lore, some actual real beasts to fight, some sort of real rewards, a point to spend money ect.

    I know i was asking because alot of people have different views of what content should be added or what different endgame is. Dont know if you play warframe for example but people have alot of different views of what the endgame content is (example).

    I agree on the lore part i always try and find thos books on islands to see if there is something new to discover and i would love t see more like the merrick quests! that lead to a mighty beast to slay.

    Maby the timed campaigns are not perfect but i see the fun in them i like them but only cause i see change in peoples behavior during those events. And i also see behaviour change in myself they are a nice edition of dragging you out of the regular fun. Now for example the Gunpowder skeletons are in its way more fun to do Voyages :)

  • @sir-lotus said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @stubbierbell598

    Hey,

    do you consider every game, that has a dlc to be unfinished?

    because in that case, it's almost every game out there... also a good example of unfinished games releases would be all episodic titles. Everything from Telltale or Life is Strange etc.

    I've never seen a game (small indie titles excluded), that didn't have to cut some content to make a reasonable release date. And if you read through some interviews, devs usualy have no problem with admitting it. At some point you just have to stop adding and changing things and focus on testing and polishing. Otherwise you'd end up with another Duke Nukem Forever or Daikatana.

    And since you've mentioned books, how does Game of Thrones end again?

    I once had a discussion with someone of how the gaming industry changed. Back in the day games had to be near perfect before they could be released. And ofcourse there were bug (wich now lead to awesome speedruns xD) and in some region you have different bugs cause they got release later and were given a more polished version.

    When the internet became more regular in every household and games became more active on the internet and the possibility of patching arrived Company's started to release games earlier (alpha's - Beta's - And the well knows Early Access) to test them wich as i see t is a very powerful tool maby the game starts out as not so great but the feedback they got during those periods helped them with the game they are currently working on and future projects.

    And i came to the statement that back then you had a "finished" game but you could not adjust anything if there was a game breaking bug in there you were ruined and had to hope your next project does not fail. And games like Warframe, Inquisitor Martyr, Ark and also Sea of thieves should be happy they released around this time cause back then it would have failed. Now some games can completely turn around when released earlyer to the public.

  • I'm excited to see what the larger forts are for and knew they were for something. Can't wait to see what Rare comes up with!

  • @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    And what other games release before there done?

    I could name a few that only released, let you enter the zones or even activated the zones time later.
    But one is enough for you: World of Warcraft
    Azeroth had many zones on map that were not reachable or open. Grim batol instance was opened 5 or 6 years after the game launch, the space was there but not active. It was introduced in Cataclysm expansion if I recall right.
    Forgive me if the dates are wrong, I'm trying to say them by heart.

  • @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    So......games not done yet..... and they release it. 😒

    Can you imagine reading a book and they just leave in some blank pages and they tell you they couldn't get to those because they were working on the other blank pages.

    .... not my best metaphor but at least I finished it before I posted it.

    GTA isn't done yet but that's a huge success? Go tell Rockstar the same thing you're trying here

  • @wipe-nd-clean said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    So......games not done yet..... and they release it. 😒

    Can you imagine reading a book and they just leave in some blank pages and they tell you they couldn't get to those because they were working on the other blank pages.

    .... not my best metaphor but at least I finished it before I posted it.

    GTA isn't done yet but that's a huge success? Go tell Rockstar the same thing you're trying here

    The difference is GTA has a TON of content. What is your point?

  • @skulliah

    Well spotted and thanks for sharing!
    Great to get some insights into those vacant forts, some amazing potential in those yet to come!

  • @wipe-nd-clean source? There is literally a source above of Rare saying they left incomplete islands in the game. Please provide a source of rockstar saying this...

  • @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    Can you imagine reading a book and they just leave in some blank pages and they tell you they couldn't get to those because they were working on the other blank pages.

    Game of Thrones is pretty awesome even though the show has lapped the books :D

  • @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    And what other games release before there done?

    Destiny 1 & 2 and Halo 5

  • @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @wipe-nd-clean source? There is literally a source above of Rare saying they left incomplete islands in the game. Please provide a source of rockstar saying this...

    Well I don't think I need to considering they are constantly releasing updates and new content for the game?

  • @korpus-draige yeah and how long has it been out? Don't you think SoT will have a ton of content in almost 5 years?

  • @el-dunco said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    And what other games release before there done?

    Destiny 1 & 2 and Halo 5

    Yet they already had a lot of content to begin with?

  • @wipe-nd-clean said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @korpus-draige yeah and how long has it been out? Don't you think SoT will have a ton of content in almost 5 years?

    It had a lot of content to begin with. Try again.

  • @sir-lotus A game of thrones ends after Daenerys eggs hatch and N*d Stark gets killed. The series a song of ice and fire has two more books coming out.

  • @el-dunco yeah those games are awful....

  • @korpus-draige said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @el-dunco said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    And what other games release before there done?

    Destiny 1 & 2 and Halo 5

    Yet they already had a lot of content to begin with?

    Destiny 1 had a very short story line and trickled content to us very slowly. They also had been working on the game for a good 10 years. Destiny 2 was literally just Destiny 1 repackaged trying to get away from the blunders they made.

    Halo 5 didn't have Forge available at launch which is a huge calling to the franchise. They also released missing many of the favorite game types and still do. They eventually released a "scripting" system for players to make these game types themselves and many of these scripting elements still don't work right to this day.

    It's very common for games to not release with all of their planned content. Most just don't notice because the features they want are there so why even notice what is missing.

    Yes, SoT is missing content we all agree should have but things happen. Enjoy the trickle. It's more like an ever evolving story at this point and if you're still here then they did something right. Without any content in a game they have managed to keep us hooked for the last 3+ months

  • @el-dunco said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @korpus-draige said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @el-dunco said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    @stubbierbell598 said in If ye wonder why there are inactive forts:

    And what other games release before there done?

    Destiny 1 & 2 and Halo 5

    Yet they already had a lot of content to begin with?

    Destiny 1 had a very short story line and trickled content to us very slowly. They also had been working on the game for a good 10 years. Destiny 2 was literally just Destiny 1 repackaged trying to get away from the blunders they made.

    Halo 5 didn't have Forge available at launch which is a huge calling to the franchise. They also released missing many of the favorite game types and still do. They eventually released a "scripting" system for players to make these game types themselves and many of these scripting elements still don't work right to this day.

    It's very common for games to not release with all of their planned content. Most just don't notice because the features they want are there so why even notice what is missing.

    Yes, SoT is missing content we all agree should have but things happen. Enjoy the trickle. It's more like an ever evolving story at this point and if you're still here then they did something right. Without any content in a game they have managed to keep us hooked for the last 3+ months

    Point being all those games had meaningful content to start with. Sea of Thieves? Fetch quests.

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