Hello my name is Spray short for SprayAnPray27 (My Gamertag). I'm a console player on Xbox. I enjoy playing Sea Of Thieves very much and have invested alot of time and work into my character, having fun all the way. It's sad that people running on a PC platform have the ability to gain from there own crews work without contributing any of there time and effort. All the reward and none of the work. I have come across a few so far some i know more then myself. Each one I have come across I'm forced into either leaving with my party because of there ignorance or finishing short handed while the macro users gain the reward.
My suggestion is when in the brig there be no gold and or experience gain when inside.
Macro Abusers
I totally understand the frustration of having someone join and not help earn any gold. However, removing the ability to earn gold and xp while in the brig will just create a whole new, far more frustrating situation where people may choose to brig you right before a big payout, depriving you of all the loot. The best thing we can do for now is to just report people engaging in this behavior. Hopefully Rare and Microsoft continue to address these cases as they are reported.
If people didn't receive loot in the brig, others would abuse the system and screw them out of their hard work. Better to have what has been suggested before to simply log players out if they spend too much time in the ferry of the damned regardless of movement.
Lock them in the brig and drown them. Problem solved.
If people start making macros to run to the respawn gate - Rare might want to consider a random spawn on the ferry of the damned so players have to check back in.
@spray-an-pray27 said in Macro Abusers:
Hello my name is Spray short for SprayAnPray27 (My Gamertag). I'm a console player on Xbox. I enjoy playing Sea Of Thieves very much and have invested alot of time and work into my character, having fun all the way. It's sad that people running on a PC platform have the ability to gain from there own crews work without contributing any of there time and effort. All the reward and none of the work. I have come across a few so far some i know more then myself. Each one I have come across I'm forced into either leaving with my party because of there ignorance or finishing short handed while the macro users gain the reward.
My suggestion is when in the brig there be no gold and or experience gain when inside.How is that abusing macros?
@fantome-of-blue that they do not leave the game while being afk, you use macros (lets call them that but there are easier methods to do so) to seem like you are online...but I also seen console players doing it even easier than pc players: just move your right controlstick to one side and keep it there, it would spin you around indefinetly so you seem active for the game as well (encountered some in the ferry of the dead)
@Spray-An-Pray27 I agree that this is surely a problem..I encountered some before the open/closed crew option was implemented (that was one reason I played solo), but no gold or exp in the brig would be abused to grief or cheat people out of their money even if they helped! Make it so in the Ferry of the dead people do not get money or exp
@spray-an-pray27 said in Macro Abusers:
It's sad that people running on a PC platform have the ability to gain from there own crews work without contributing any of there time and effort.
But you're cool with Xbox users having this ability?
@spray-an-pray27 said in Macro Abusers:
Hello my name is Spray short for SprayAnPray27 (My Gamertag). I'm a console player on Xbox. I enjoy playing Sea Of Thieves very much and have invested alot of time and work into my character, having fun all the way. It's sad that people running on a PC platform have the ability to gain from there own crews work without contributing any of there time and effort. All the reward and none of the work. I have come across a few so far some i know more then myself. Each one I have come across I'm forced into either leaving with my party because of there ignorance or finishing short handed while the macro users gain the reward.
My suggestion is when in the brig there be no gold and or experience gain when inside.Macro's and Rubber Banders should both be banned, IMHO. And I'd be seriously surprised if there were more PC users using macros than Xbox users using rubber bands.
P.S. That turbo button found on a lot of controllers is basically a pre-programmed macro. There are modded controllers with other sorts of functions too. All of this PC hate coming from the console crowd is getting old. Every time I log on to the forums, there's 2, 3, 4 new threads about "PCMR is too PCMR," or something along those lines. Lol. Can the @Global-Moderators not make a macro to auto-lock these threads? LOL
@xxmizzlesxx Yes I agree with you in regards to exploiting and trolling with addition. However solving a problem with a problem it seems, I think it's better then basically handing out free gold and experience. The problem is only getting worse. I have posted picture of them in game. I would choose to brig with no experience "and or" gold. The penalties can be anything but atleast thas way you won't have to worry as much hopefully when looking for one or two more with your friend. Either way thanks for your opinion on i agree to the extent mizzle.
Sorry guess I can't reply for a set time until I've earned enough "rep". Regardless I posted my response some how to the wrong comment, apologies. I think spinning around vs having someone randomly lift there bucket is less discrete. Earlier a friend had said it happened to him a PC player he had screenshots of was picking up water and throwing it but his bucket wasn't moving. I think we have to give players something to use when it happens to them. I usually need maybe 1 every so often when running with a gallion and being mid way through the voyage having a random join an giving us no option but to continue on, report them, lock them in a brig or be forced to quit altogether.
@spray-an-pray27 yes I agree that this is just maddening! The worst kind is actually joining you and throwing everything off board just to troll you but that is besides the point ;)
Btw now there is the open and closed crew options that will prevent your crew of having a random join you :) closed means only friends can join and even rejoin if there is space left. If there are people on your friend list that afk grind then delete them, that should make them stop joining your crew and make the issue of afking your way to victory/legend make more difficult :)
@wodyo I think we should use a different term than "rubber banders". Rubber banding refers to a wonky connection, not using an actual rubber band to cheat your way around the afk timer.
That being said, I agree with you that I think this has a higher occurrence on console than it does on PC.
This was the big reason I was so excited for closed crews, I get that sometimes people have to go AFK for a little while, there's all sorts of reasons you might have to step away for 10 mins, but these guys are away for hours! If the ferry had a limit on it that would go a long way towards solving it, you might want to be on the ferry for a while if you're chatting to someone or waiting for your ship to finish sinking so you can respawn on a new one, but no-one needs to be in there for much longer than 10-15 minutes. Pop a time limit on the ferry and it would drastically reduce the appeal of this sort of behavior.
@shikia-caeleaum said in Macro Abusers:
@fantome-of-blue that they do not leave the game while being afk, you use macros (lets call them that but there are easier methods to do so) to seem like you are online...but I also seen console players doing it even easier than pc players: just move your right controlstick to one side and keep it there, it would spin you around indefinetly so you seem active for the game as well (encountered some in the ferry of the dead)
@Spray-An-Pray27 I agree that this is surely a problem..I encountered some before the open/closed crew option was implemented (that was one reason I played solo), but no gold or exp in the brig would be abused to grief or cheat people out of their money even if they helped! Make it so in the Ferry of the dead people do not get money or exp
Well, a macro is essentially an in game micro-program that lets you assign a task or number of tasks to a hotkey. So, where I sympathize with anyone suffering abuse from another player, I'm thinking the OP doesn't understand the term macro, and what he's describing isn't related to any macro, but just maybe someone using a hack or, more simply, maybe taping their controller to a position.
@fantome-of-blue exactly right :) I used the term macro because the OP used it that is why I said in the brackets "lets call them that" ;)
@shikia-caeleaum said in Macro Abusers:
@fantome-of-blue exactly right :) I used the term macro because the OP used it that is why I said in the brackets "lets call them that" ;)
Oh, you were too subtle for my slow self. Thanks for the clarification.
@spray-an-pray27 Rare did ask for patience regarding this in the last developer update this week. They will be dealing with the cheaters, and system abusers. We just have to continue to report these people, and be patient with Rare. They are working on a lot of things at once, and doing a great job building a game based on feedback.
I get that sometimes people have to go AFK for a little while, there's all sorts of reasons you might have to step away for 10 mins
It's poopin time :)
PC and Xbox players get kicked at the exact same rate when no input is being given to the game. Xbox players don't get kicked for being AFK when they have something to keep the joystick moved to one side. They seem to be bigger culprits of the AFK Mooching than PC players in fact.
@holezinya I think you mixed me up with someone else. I completely agree, this is definitely not an issue that is exempt from either platform.
@holezinya said in Macro Abusers:
Xbox players can afk leech too!
They can use macros via modded controllers too.
@the-lupino said in Macro Abusers:
PC and Xbox players get kicked at the exact same rate when no input is being given to the game. Xbox players don't get kicked for being AFK when they have something to keep the joystick moved to one side. They seem to be bigger culprits of the AFK Mooching than PC players in fact.
I mostly see autoclickers. Outnumber rubberband leeches 3 to 1 in my experience. I usually just go to the red sea when I encounter them. Did one dude's Athena quest and junked it there. 10/10 would do again.
@kuala85 said in Macro Abusers:
I had that same problem. Some guy being afk for over 40 minutes and we just had to turn in our loot. I dont get why people on xbox get kicked if afk for more than 10 minutes but pc players somehow dont.
Xbox players wrap rubber bands around their analog sticks. PC users have no advantage, in this case. It's all in your head.
@wodyo said in Macro Abusers:
@kuala85 said in Macro Abusers:
I had that same problem. Some guy being afk for over 40 minutes and we just had to turn in our loot. I dont get why people on xbox get kicked if afk for more than 10 minutes but pc players somehow dont.
Xbox players wrap rubber bands around their analog sticks. PC users have no advantage, in this case. It's all in your head.
So far I had 0 players with rubber bands and 2 players that just stood still for over 30 min. So no, its not all in my head, its actual experiences that happened so far. Im not saying its a huge problem, just that its strange why I get kicked when I need to be afk for a little bit and some players can just not move for over 30 minutes and not be kicked.
@kuala85 said in Macro Abusers:
@wodyo said in Macro Abusers:
@kuala85 said in Macro Abusers:
I had that same problem. Some guy being afk for over 40 minutes and we just had to turn in our loot. I dont get why people on xbox get kicked if afk for more than 10 minutes but pc players somehow dont.
Xbox players wrap rubber bands around their analog sticks. PC users have no advantage, in this case. It's all in your head.
So far I had 0 players with rubber bands and 2 players that just stood still for over 30 min. So no, its not all in my head, its actual experiences that happened so far. Im not saying its a huge problem, just that its strange why I get kicked when I need to be afk for a little bit and some players can just not move for over 30 minutes and not be kicked.
You can do an action, use a rubber band, and other players won't see you spin.
I play on a PC. Simply placing a paper-weight on the mouse does Not stop the game from disconnecting me. I've tried. I've also asked for 5 more minutes towards the AFK timer (https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/58718/increase-lazy-beard-timer-please/42), so I do not have to use a macro, or a rubber band on a controller.
You have no proof they're on PC, @kuala85 .
This could be fixed in a very simple manor.
Locked in the brig for more then X amount of minutes gets you put on the Ferry of the Damned. On the Ferry of the Damned for Y amount of minutes you have to solve a simple riddle.You are presented with 4 names, 3 are names of fake pirates from voyages and the 4th is from an active member of your crew. You get 1 guess. Players could look to see who is on their boat before answering. Keep repeating the process every few minutes till they get it wrong or leave the Ferry of the Damned.
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