Outpost camping

@jediknight129 and i understand that the game is massivly pvp im more than ok with that but when they attack me when i am off my ship and i can't defend it then it gets annoying and they aren't even just stealing the treasure they have the [Mod edited] idea to sick my ship as well

Oupost camping is a viable tactic and allowed in this game. They gave u ways to make sure noone is there. Use them

I camp outpost under one condition. When im about to log and I see your ship heading my way. Ill happily scuttle and wait for you to bring me my loot. Watch the mermaids champ. If your getting caught by ships camping.... Thats on you. Keep that anchor up.

@jediknight129 said in Outpost camping:

Can we do something about outpost camping i took a break from this game cause i couldn't make any progress cause of one the terrible rewards and the people that would sit near or at the outposts and attack incoming ships

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Not once since game release has i been atacked by outpost campers.. I have on the otherhand chosen to deliver at other outposts since ive seen mermaids in the water or ships on the backside of the island.. Yeah.. i do circle the island b4 delivering good loot ;)

@jediknight129

Look for mermaids! I went to golden sands saw 2 mermaids jumped overboard with a castaway chest sold and 2 guys rushed out and killed me.

I respawned on my ship and turned in at the next outpost.

@jediknight129 I'm sorry bud, it's very easy to see how experiences like this are ruining the game but honestly neither the game developers nor the players of the game actually want people to have a good time, or even play the game altogether. #BeMorePirare and stuff.

@navarita said in Outpost camping:

@jediknight129 I'm sorry bud, it's very easy to see how experiences like this are ruining the game but honestly neither the game developers nor the players of the game actually want people to have a good time, or even play the game altogether. #BeMorePirare and stuff.

That’s funny because someone tried to camp an outpost on me today but I had situational awareness.

I enjoy having other players try to steal my loot.

All of the people playing and enjoying the game have learned from our failures and mistakes.

The two guys camping golden sands didn’t even get my garbage chest.

If you use your brain, skill, and some ingenuity you won’t get suckered by weak tactics like outpost camping.

I like this game because of the dangers of interacting with other crews.

I don’t want a game that is already balanced and easy to become easier.

I play against other people for a challenge. I bought this game because you can imagine and implement so many tactics.

If you don’t enjoy the game maybe it’s not for you. I love it, and don’t want the tension and challenge nerfed.

@holezinya said in Outpost camping:

@navarita said in Outpost camping:

@jediknight129 I'm sorry bud, it's very easy to see how experiences like this are ruining the game but honestly neither the game developers nor the players of the game actually want people to have a good time, or even play the game altogether. #BeMorePirare and stuff.

"Git gud, core values™, only my playstyle is valid"

If you don’t enjoy the game maybe it’s not for you.

Cool. I'll @ you on the closing servers post when it happens and you can tell me then again that this game is we not for me.

@navarita

Lol ok, but that will be a minimum of 2 years from now.

This is a Rare game, but it’s also a Microsoft service. Microsoft has Azure and no shortage of servers. Microsoft’s servers can adjust dynamically.

TLDR: you don’t know what you’re talking about.

@navarita

Anytime any day I can find a good group and have a blast in a populated server.

You should try to get good. Personally I prefer Chess over Checkers so don’t try to turn a game many of us love into something even easier than “tic tac toe”.

I just spent an hour trying to do a mission but being camped at an island by a sloop and a couple of PC players who had four or five gunpoweder kegs and kept jumping on our ship to sink us.
Bit tough to do both a level 45 skeleton quest and keep professional griefers at bay, especially when the skeletons only seemed to come for us.

A fine way to play the game but clearly within the rules of Sea of Thieves and seemingly very much welcomed by Rare.

@vexed-anemone said

... and a couple of PC players who had four or five gunpoweder kegs ...

Why does it always have to come back to PC players? Even if you are dead-set certain by sitting in the same room as the alleged "PC players" don't you ever experience this sort of game play by Xbox players?

As a PC player (who is part of the officially recorded 14% of SoT playerbase) I could sit here all day complaining about Xbox players who beat me.
Even though it was based on the first month of SoT, that figure means that 86% of Sot players were / are Xbox users, which is a vast majority in any language.

There are no advantages / disadvantages for either Xbox or PC players to climb their mast or drop gun powder kegs on your ship. So why assume that they must have been PC players?

@admiral-rrrsole You are totally right. There's this culture going around right now that if anything is happening to you that is considered griefing, bad sportsmanship, cheap or frowned upon then it must be PC players.

I'm an xbox player but I really despise the message some people are sending by labelling PC players in this way. Players who do these things do not represent the communities of their respective gaming platforms.

It would be great to see people using much more accepting, positive and inclusive language that doesn't alienate any particular player group.

That way we can strengthen the SoT community and provide a solid foundation for constructive discussion.

Cheers @evasive-envy , I raise my tankard to you kind sir / madam.

@admiral-rrrsole
I didn't assume anything, I found out.

1. They mocked us for being console players while on the Ferry.
2. They were typing messages as they were hunting us/on the Ferry. Mostly consisting of quotes from the film Warriors and then some nasty stuff too.
3. Their accuracy in close combat.
4. Their ability to switch cycle between the inventory was a clue when running around/away from them.

Oh, and when did I complain about getting beat? I complained about being griefed by guys not doing a mission but camping an island to continuously kill players who were doing a grinding quest there.

I might as well mention it again and not in the megathread but with optional crossplay, we might have not faced them.

Glad I could clear that up for you, @Evasive-Envy and the 14% who are getting the PVP advantage but not as integral to the success of the game or paying monthly to play Microsoft games online.
#RaiseThatTankard

@vexed-anemone Okay, I'll retract that you assumed them all as being PC players.
The powder kegs can be an unfortunate part of the game.
To me these people (or at least whomever taunted you on the ferry) were simply being jerks.

This and the initial powder keg damage is regardless of which means they use to play the game on. Unfortunately such people exist in both worlds, PC and Xbox.
You must admit it was a detail irrelevant to your complaint in this thread.

I hear you loud and clear about being left alone to do PvE voyages, I try to be "the voice of reason" when I'm with a crew who want to "crush, kill, destroy" everybody and anybody in sight.

Micro$oft have spent a lot of time, MONEY and effort into developing "cross-play", although I personally don't have an issue with giving people the option to toggle it on / off, however I wouldn't have met and made friends with so many cool Xbox players if they all switched to "Xbox only" mode and it's very doubtful that Micro$oft and or Rare would back pedal even a little on this.

@jediknight129 When I'm bound for port with a lot of loot I always look for the mermaids. Sometimes their mermaid could be on the other side, plus I'm a solo slooper, yeah when I'm in a crew i send someone to scout but 80% of the time I'm solo.

Paranoia is your friend. Maybe even fire a few shots at the gold hoarders tent, or towards the Order of Souls to see if you can even get a hit marker. If you get duped, don't quit. In the sea of thieves, avoiding thievery is like not getting punctured after diving into a hay stack with a billion needles.

Don't think like a thief? You'll be at the disadvantage of a thief.

There's 6 outposts in the game.
There will be one without a player on it.

I do understand your frustration and believe me, I've been there, too.
Cleared a fort yesterday with a buddy and literally after picking up the key we got hit by a canon ball, both die, spawn on the opposite side of the map - free loot for the other guys.

Also yesterday I messed up one maneuver and got knocked off the sloop which had about 20 Captain's chests on board.

I was furious (actually still am a bit), but I have to admit: it's the same rules for everyone. When live gives you lemons, trade them for limes and make a Caipirinha from it.

Keep you head up and see you soon on the seas.

@jediknight129

No, please do not try to change the game just because it needs some skill at some point.

In order to avoid / handle these situations:

A) Observe near ships and try to predict their motivation

• Ships which are coming directly from an outpost often are very aggressive because they have nothing to lose.
• Ships which are heading for an outpost often want to sell cargo, hence a nice prize for the ones leaving.
• Use your look-out from time to time, some pirates are quite creative concerning hiding a ship

B) Do not approach outposts directly if there are other ships around. This way everybody watching knows that you have cargo and might act accordingly (intercept, approach from astern, approach from the other side of the island, populate outpost, etc.). Keep your distance, sail towards nearby islands / wrecks and be patient. And please do not just stop / drop anchor and wait for a clear outpost. This just tells the currently unloading evil pirate two things: 1. the ship is loaded with cargo, 2. the player is unexperienced - hence: sweet prey. If you can, just set sails to another outpost or use the time to get some more cargo, fill your barrels etc. - but you should always look busy.

C) In some cases it might be necessary to approach an outpost, while somebody is following you. But even in this scenario there are a couple of solutions, e.g. Silent Overboard: Set a save course (if you are a solo player), sail pass the pier, jump from the ship with your most valuable good, dive and sell it, then use the mermaid to get back, repeat if necessary. Btw: Jump towards the bow. The follower may fire crew onto the outpost island, when he notices your little overboard maneuver. This is great, especially since 1.0.7 (no name plates underwater)

There are tons of other things you can do to prevent others to get your stuff. But in general: Just play the game, get some more experience and you will notice that you won't get robbed anymore.

Well, and just in case I am one of the guys who robbed you: I am not sorry and I will do it again, if you let me. "Arrrrr" :-)

@admiral-rrrsole

I was describing how we were getting griefed and I said it was part of the game. I don't think that's irrelevant.
I also included something about the skeletons chasing only me, though I think that was just me being unlucky.

The powder keg can be dealt with, unfortunately the PVP disadvantage means they can more easily spawn camp at the bottom of the ship and kill us as we try to fix.

Over the lifetime of the Xbox console (17 years), MS could have spent less money by simply allowing their console to use a KB+M, but they themselves know the problems this would create and that they'd face calls to separate those players from the controller guys. So they don't.

This is why their experiment with SOT is coming at a cost to the SOT community and Rare, who will 100% lose players on this title and may see servers shut/scaled down if profits drop too much. MS have a history of dropping companies/partners not making a profit for them.

I too have met many friends which is why I 100% support crossplay, it's superb. But this is MS trying to move PC gamers away from Steam and it stinks.
If crossplay was their real intention, it wouldn't have been an exclusive and they'd have worked hard to make it crossplay across all platforms.

Maybe they won't make a change but console players need to continue making noise about this issue or stop playing/paying. The crossplay disadvantage is costing SOT players and that's not good for anybody.

@vexed-anemone Thanks! Yeah that makes sense and I understand your concerns!

Have fun on the open seas!