why are pc players soo OP

  • @personalc0ffee said in why are pc players soo OP:

    @edemardil That is a load of b******s. Use the Xbox App for Windows 10, you can see all recent players that you have seen and been around long enough.

    I know for a fact there are people here that play on PC and they show up in my Recent Players. It sometimes bugs though, like most dang things in this game.

    Well unless you can refute my point with evidence, what's the point? I use both btw and I tell you that PC players do not show in the recent players list. Because I use it, often, to contact people in game. I've tried using it to report people who were hacking, and I would have to go get killed by them to see their name to report them because they don't show in the list.

  • @elite-assasin87 hmm alright. Was just stating my experience but I totally could be wrong. I'm a fairly hermit style player minus playing with the kiddo.

  • @a-cranky-eskimo yes I agree. What is 'given' to one should equitably be given to another. I'm just saying in a glib fashion that apparently failed lol that I do not believe any obtuse statement such as 'pc is op' is near accurate let alone precise.

    Both sides have advantages the others don't. It's cool. That's the game. Adapt and overcome I guess.

  • @reluctantdragon hahaha fingers till sharp. Love it.

  • Fight with keyboard and mouse, sail with controller, best combo.

  • @outbackgamer868 said in why are pc players soo OP:

    I'm on Xbox and pc players have said i cheat or some s**t but no I'm just good at what i do its all about practice try it sometime ???

    Can confirm above, @SHREK-T-T. I've run circles around PC players, and taped it for posterity.

  • @pir4te-roberts Wow. I can't believe comments like this get upvoted so many times. It's disappointing to see players increasing the divide between PC and console yet it's those same PC players that claim they don't have any advantage.

    Try to be a little more inclusive and respectful with your comments so that we can create a foundation for more constructive discussion. I find myself having to say this too many times on these forums and, frankly, its disheartening.

    We are all gamers in the end and have something in common. We love gaming! Build on that and maybe we can grow into a community who respects each others points of view.

  • @slowmonutkick
    Exactly what i do when i play on pc :)
    Best of both worlds

  • I’m starting to think half the people here that make these kinds of threads ironically get their a***s kicked by other console players and then automatically assume they are PC players because they happen to be great at the game.

  • @brit-churchill said in why are pc players soo OP:

    Am a Xbox player I play with pc players and I enjoy their company and would be gutted if cross platform was removed. Though saying this they have all admit that Xbox players are easy to kill as they are more handicapped they thought I was a pc player because I was hard to kill. We have all encountered people hacking so please don’t deny this is happening anyone that is saying this is bull then I would put money on that you are a hacker. Remember I play with pc players we can tell when someone is hacking. The problem is pc players are more afraid to voice it because if the issue can not be resolved then we risk cross platform being removed. So let’s not focus on cross platform being an issue and focus on extreme punishment for hackers. In China you would be in prison for it as it seen as trying to destroy a company, just putting that out there what hacking is really doing here.

    First, I haven't encountered people hacking. Yes, i have seen some things happen where i was like "Hmmm.. that's weird and fishy". But most people immediatly assume somebody is a hacker when somebody outplats them, luckily i'm different and try to learn from those situations.

    Second, how exactly can you tell somebody is hacking? You can see their screen?

    @edemardil said in why are pc players soo OP:

    @davejc64 said in why are pc players soo OP:

    And you know for sure they are PC players how exactly?

    For one, they won't show up in the "recent players" list on Xbox. You can also go to their profile if you know their name. Xbox players have achievements and a gamer score, PC players don't.

    PC player here, I have a gamescore and achievements. Recent players i don't know because i barely get in the xbox menu so don't know where i can see that.

    But don't bring lies into the forums to suit your needs.

  • I play primarily on my Xbox, I like the much larger display for gaming, but I have the option to fire up my PC any time. I don't often but I have investigated this so called PC advantage, and it simply isn't a big deal. PC has a smoother fps, but not that much smoother, there are advantages and disadvantages to using a mouse and keyboard. It basically preference, there is nothing stopping a smart Xbox player from defeating a smart PC player. It all comes down to skill in the end.

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  • @v**a-hombre said in why are pc players soo OP:

    @mad-jack-ketch

    Erg!

    Makes me tired just thinking about it. I'll just stick to doing the voyages the regular way, no matter how unprofitable.

    Wow, I'm not the only one? O_o

  • I don't mind PC players being OP. They really need that handicap when they come across me. ;)

  • I'm mainly a PC player but I have tried this game @1080p on Xbox One S and @4k on One X and the framerate on both experiences was unplayable for an always on PVP game. The 4k is a total slide show where at least @1080p I can moderately control the camera. I'd be curious to see how the One X handles the 1080p so that's what I'm going to try next. Being use to the smooth experience PC has to offer for this game I can understand why some Xbox users might feel a bit at a disadvantage. I think this can be fixed with patches and gameplay tweaks with out sacrificing the crossplay though.

  • @pir4te-roberts Hahaha that’s why more pc players cheat . Their is probably some truth in what you are saying but I’m a console player with a low IQ, so what do I know lol. I have got a pc but my wife uses it to heat our dinner .

  • @reluctantdragon said in why are pc players soo OP:

    Xbox / pc should have never happened. I too have had experience of obviously hacked and modded players. This was always going to happen, the pc world is rife with this kind of behaviour. In my experience most Players with hardly any gamerscore (under 1000) are pc players and couldn't give a toss about playing fair, abiding by the rules or the camaraderie xbox players have. A level playing field is never going to happen. I'm not saying all pc players are like this, but there is a lot.

    I'm willing to bet your "Obviously hackers" experiences are more likely linked to false perceptions.

    Rife? Really? yes, PC is "the" hacker platform. It's easier to apply hacks, and the platform is the "mother" of all gaming technology, consoles are simply another type of PC though the hardware package seems to reduce application of software designed to "break a game". So I can't ague that if you find a 'hacker' they are usually on PC.

    As a matter of note I am a PC gamer. Yet my gamerscore is pretty close to 51k on Blooddoll22 my primary account. (an insignificant amount over that). This being my primary account, I have 7 accounts. Some inherited from my children and used by me to maintain save files etc. I'm curious how much higher it'd be if I combined them all?

    Give a toss about playing fair? Playing fair, playing nice, and generally just having a good time despite "progress" are hallmarks of my interests. My social presence is minor, I barely invest in most social media relations to gaming. But I do join "clans", "guilds", "Forums", etc. I advocate for peaceful social areas in the game, try to "help the little guy", tend to leave other players to chill and have fun, and more. To suggest that "because I am on the PC" that I'm some elitist n*********l who tries to curb all advantages in my direction, is patently incorrect.

    Camaraderie? Ask anyone I sail with Camaraderie is my lifeblood. My self proclaimed mission in life is to assure my friends have fun in the game, regardless of any costs to my benefit. I've wasted hours in the game, screwing off, and "wasting time", all in the spirit of chatting and hanging out with friends. Interestingly always with PC gamers, but I'm sure that's happenstance.

    "Not saying all PC gamers are like thus but".... Yes you are. Your just trying to protect your bias under the aegis of "experiential commentary".

    The advantages I have as a PC player on an Alienware with a (getting a bit old I should upgrade) 1070 are imo thus:

    My graphics are better.
    I feel I have a potential for incredible mouse sensitivity.
    I tend to react faster to input keys vs controller button presses.

    My load times are often atrocious, as it seems everyone's are. I get "black screen" loading after using the ferry as does everyone else, and sometimes my Xbox pals seem to load in faster than me. It doesn't seem consistent across the board for anyone regardless of platform.

    Everything else has in my experience been, pretty well even. I agree inputs and reaction times are more sensitive on PC. That will always remain a fact.

    But the rest? Not much of a difference. Hell, my buddy is on PC and complains all the time about his slow loading, inaccuracy of his key presses, inability to PvP for squat, poor resolution issues, darkness and inability to see a damn thing, framerates, and more. My wife only draws in 30 fps on her PC?

    It's the player that truly sets the difference.

    And "obvious hacks"?

    Videos or it never happened. Much like another thread elsewhere on the forum that showcases a "He's a hacker" anecdote. Only to have the twitch gamer ON XBOX (Or at least the video showed xbox inputs - hence my presumption) show exactly how wrong this player was.

  • @personalc0ffee said in why are pc players soo OP:

    @edemardil That is a load of b******s. Use the Xbox App for Windows 10, you can see all recent players that you have seen and been around long enough.

    I know for a fact there are people here that play on PC and they show up in my Recent Players. It sometimes bugs though, like most dang things in this game.

    Well that disproves.
    @edemardil said in why are pc players soo OP:

    @davejc64 said in why are pc players soo OP:

    And you know for sure they are PC players how exactly?

    For one, they won't show up in the "recent players" list on Xbox. You can also go to their profile if you know their name. Xbox players have achievements and a gamer score, PC players don't.

    What you said so try again.

  • @gunnerdk I SAID " in my experience". you can't unsee things and I don't lie. So don't accuse me. Fact .... there are many accounts of sot pc hacking, and they're not because the victim is "a bit s**t" . Let me reiterate...I'm not saying all pc players are hackers .

  • @mad-jack-ketch lol there are no "blend" spots. Ship silhouettes stick out like a sore thumb.

    That ssid, meh. PC doesn't feel overpowered.

  • @edemardil said in why are pc players soo OP:

    @davejc64 said in why are pc players soo OP:

    And you know for sure they are PC players how exactly?

    For one, they won't show up in the "recent players" list on Xbox. You can also go to their profile if you know their name. Xbox players have achievements and a gamer score, PC players don't.

    @ollieoxenfree said in why are pc players soo OP:

    The PC group contains all the cheaters. With macros available and such PC players have an advantage by assigning many button presses to one command.

    PC players also have a faster turning radius making it easier to maneuver in melee combat and shooting.

    They are NOT faster, smarter or better than anyone else. I have WRECKED my fair share of PC crews. Sometimes the tech doesn’t make up for smarts and skill.

    And, you can tell PC players mostly by the chat symbol over their head that has a line through it...

    I am amazed at how many of you console people complaining actually have NO CLUE how a PC even works, or the game for that matter.

    PC players have the xbox app same as console players, with friends list, recently played with, achievements and gamerscore and all that, not to mention if a PC player has or had an xbox, the achievements are all there still.

    Line across the chat bubble indicates a PC player? really? I am 110% sure that indicates no mic, and last I checked, you can have an xbox with no mic.

    Some of you read the OP and say "MOST LIKELY ITS A HACKER" really? Most likely? To me it most likely is the OP didnt see the wind change, or the waves turned the ship and he didnt compensate, most likely he had no wind and the chasing boat had full wind; Are there hacks? sure, we've all seen the screenshots, IS IT MOST LIKELY? No, it isnt. We've seen Aimbot and ESP, we have not seen faster boat sailing, as the position and speed of boats are determined by the server, not the client, you'd have to have some pretty deep level hack to change that.

  • my friend mathieu play on pc and xbox and he perform the same and kill as much on both platforms but its a more smooth experiences visually on pc due to higher fps and refresh rate monitor

  • @casesugar401098 this is so wrong, I play on pc with a controller and I'm not even that good at fps pvp. I don't play duty/bf etc.. Why do console players think that every single pc payer is a god with a keyboard/mouse, or that they all use hacks? This is just not true, plus I'd bet that less then 25% of all players on this game are on PC. We don't all have supreme reflexes, supreme twitch shooting, or supreme high end systems. So to say that all pc players all so amazing is just nonsense.

  • @cinnumann please please show me a single video of so call sailing hacks lollll .... i have played countless hours of this game i am pirate legends and i have never ever seen such thing

  • @shrek-t-t Sounds a little exaggerated. And 15 snakes? Sounds like you're begging to get killed lol:D

    If you want to get away more easily in a chase, try going against the wind instead. It will give your pursuer less chances to gain on you.

    And about loading screens i agree. But it's different for every pc player too, depending on their hardware, and in a game like this it gives you a huge advantage when you can spawn in faster after death and mermaiding. So it feels kind of unfair yes.

  • @skritsarn we've already went over loading times. It is absolutely never the same. It varies on the game itself, not just hardware. I've played with people on Xbox one x/s and they loaded faster then me from the ferry at times. Loading into the actual game from the main menu is another story.

  • @shrek-t-t Pistol or Sniper?
    Clip it! send it to Rare!

    if they Cheat they will let you know... i already reported few... and yes they was hackers!

  • Because they are older and have more money.

  • PC players train harder.

  • @stew360
    Stop trying to bait people into posting links or vids of cheaters.
    You know it's against the rules & are just trying to cause more trouble!
    Check out that site called Youtube, there's a load of vids on there showing the pc cheaters in all their glory!

  • @snipercondriak said in why are pc players soo OP:

    @pir4te-roberts Hahaha that’s why more pc players cheat . Their is probably some truth in what you are saying but I’m a console player with a low IQ, so what do I know lol. I have got a pc but my wife uses it to heat our dinner .

    My pc definately heats chips nicely.

  • @shrek-t-t said in why are pc players soo OP:

    rare why are pc players so OP im in a 1 man sloop with full sail in the wind and a pc sloop tailing me the started off at about 300 yards and catch up with me in 30 seconds and there sail is not even in the wind its just flat against the wind. They then board my sloop run paat a point blank blunderbus down in my hull where i have about 15 snakes run back up to top i shoot 2 more times then pull out my sword hit 3 times as i get hit markers at this point he has not fired he pulls out his pistol and fires 1 shot instantly kills me he dies too then on ghost ship he walks out the door same time as me but i get that stupid black screen for 60 seconds i load in hes on my ship and i instantly die from 1 shot pistol. Im fed up of sot unfare advantage given to pc players and each patch gives pc players more advantage with increased aiming and movement. Are RARE even reading the forums ?

    For what it's worth my family uses Xbox one controllers on PC. Comfort over accuracy f*w

  • @shrek-t-t PC doesn’t give advantage on speed, so that means you’re a really bad sailor and you just don’t admit it. You don’t even know if he is a pc player. Git good man. I’m on xbox, maximum sensitivity (which is lower than the max sens on pc) and I can solo a medium level pc galleon or a good pc solo player just because I practiced.

    GIT GOOD

  • @stew360 said in why are pc players soo OP:

    @cinnumann please please show me a single video of so call sailing hacks lollll .... i have played countless hours of this game i am pirate legends and i have never ever seen such thing

    Sorry I don't record my own playing. I mean I call it sail hack you can call it what ever you want. It's just ships sailing with flat sails against wind, turning 90 degrees sails down anchor up and just generally moving faster than anyone should be able.
    I have faced it only twice. And it's really really easy to spot.

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