Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...

@cattaleyaathena said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

@greaseman85 said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

People play on consoles because everyone is on an equal footing regarding hardware. I shouldn't have to be forced to play against PC players. If I wanted to, I would play on PC. Crossplay should always be optional, not mandatory.

And no, I do not want to see mouse/keyboard support on Xbox for this game or any other game. That just defeats the purpose of using consoles.

Console Gamers vs PC Gamer! - How to use a Keyboard and Mouse on a Console -

You can't read, can you?

@lobofh said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

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@therealdadbeard I think he’s mad that pc was buffed (regardless of how much) while consol (which was already inferior) was not touched.

Gamepad will always be inferior agianst M/Kb people need to accept that. Threads like this are completely useless.

They are not useless.

Microsoft should not be making multiplayer or PVP games where PC has such a huge competitive advantage cross platform. This is particularly true for one of very few Xbox exclusives.

There are a lot of reasons people play games on console. One of the reasons is that consoles provide a custodial gaming experience where there are far fewer cheats and hacks for multiplayer and the likelihood of being caught cheating is much higher with much higher consequences (since losing your Xbox Live account could cost you games you purchased).

Many PC games are rampant with cheaters, the risk of both being caught and having any real consequences is lower; and there is literally an entire industry of cheat program developers that charge for cheating services.

Anger and complaints from the Xbox community is how consumers force companies to take their concerns seriously because it threatens future revenue. Perhaps enough anger and frustration will make it worth it for Rare and Microsoft to separate PC and Xbox servers for players that wish to play separately.

Rampant with cheaters?, stop spouting your ignorance about PC gaming, can you?

Yes, we got your strategy, to whine non stop with lies and manipulations to get a catebears-friendly environment. Luckily the dozen of primadonnas in this forum is not the XBox community, they are out there enjoying the game and winning fights with the sword, not with the tears.

I have been PC gaming since the early 80s. Probably longer than you have been alive. I am primarily a PC gamer now. With a dual video card in SLI, M.2 drive, and three monitor rig.

I am not ignorant of PC gaming nor am I ignorant of the how there is an industry of cheat program designers making a living off of creating exploit and cheat programs.

The only ignorance on this subject being demonstrated is yours.

Son, I played PONG in a black & white cathodic TV, so spare me the "I am older than you" bull. Thanks.

Again, the cheater scene happens in every damn platform in the market, how is possible that the console players live in this delusional bubble of rainbows and unicorns?, Bungie had to ban thousands of players in Destiny 1. Wake up.

Nobody is saying that cheating never happens on consoles. But the frequency is much higher on PC, accessibility of exploits is higher, the NUMBER of exploits and cheats available is greater, the likelihood of getting caught is lower, and the COST of getting caught is lower. Since the PC itself cannot be rendered nearly useless like a console ban can. On a PC only the software license/account is banned.

And an account ban on a PC almost always effects one game only. An account ban on Xbox effects much of the player's library and all his progress across his entire library. Including real money spent on DLCs across multiple games.

The result is cheating on console is simply no where near the extent it is on PC. Arguing that makes you just seem either completely dishonest or unable to understand the entire point of the discussion.

Additionally, you conveniently miss the point of the fact that PC have a competitive advantage in game due to the control scheme.

Since console gamers are merely asking that cross platform be optional for the player there is literally zero reason for a PC gamer to argue against it other than the desire to force a situation where the maximum number of players with competitive disadvantages are playing against the PC player.

So the entire motivation for you arguing against option cross platform is suspect since the ONLY justification is you want to maintain the status quo of having a competitive advantage against the maximum number of players possible.

And despite that motivation you have the audacity to call those players "whiners". Which is nonsense. The real whiners are the entitled nitwits that spend their time on these threads trying to maintain their competitive advantage.

Finally, we were discussing PC gaming. I played pong in the 70s. PONG SYSTEMS WERE MARKETED AS CONSOLES.

And those cheaters will be banned in SoT if the Microsoft system is so hacks-free as you claim. The fact is that this is a neverending fight, on PC and consoles, I am tired of your manipulations, you demand the end of crossplay because there are PC players and that's the kingdom of hackers, so your starting point is a nonsense, the porcentage of cheaters in PC games with professional anti-cheat systems is minimal and there are cheaters on console...do I ask for the removal of XBox players in SoT because some console players are cheaters?, no, pal, we must demand good anti-cheat systems, end of the story.

Most of you didn't meet still a hacker, I for sure didn't meet one in this game, so I suspect that you are over-exaggerating an issue to push your hidden agenda.

About controls the advantage is nelligible, but we know it's a lost cause with people like you, scapegoats are lovely to cuddle egos.

You're an idiot. I mean I can see that in the 3 posts of yours I read. You like the advantage over xbox and don't wanna lose it. So instead of manning up and saying it, you call people asking for it cry babies. That and the fact that you think xbox/pc can even compare in the amount of cheating. But you keep crying about the people crying.... God knows you're a smart one /wink

@perfecshionist said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

@lobofh said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

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Matt Hickey  /  Jul 31, 2015  /  Tech

Bungie Bans Hundreds Of Players From 'Destiny' For Cheating

VideoBungie, makers of the immensely popular video game "Destiny", has always been fairly good at listening to the needs and concerns of its players of its games, and one thing they’ve been constantly complaining about is the issue of lag in the competitive multiplayer modes of the game. And today...

Bungie on Twitter / X

I can post dozens of these, there were not evil PC players here. Now keep lieing to yourself in the mirror. BYE BYE.

Wow, you just can't seem to get the point. I have seen dozens of these articles WHILE ARGUING WITH YOU.

Nobody said cheating did not happen on consoles.

I said it is easier to cheat on a PC.

I said the consequences and costs of being caught are lower on a PC.

I said that there are far more available mechanisms to cheat on a PC.

I said cheating on a console required modification to the console.

I said it is much easier to detect a console cheater.

I said that the potential cost of getting caught cheating on a console is higher.

I said that the control scheme alone gives the PC players a competitive advantage. Reason enough alone to make cross platform optional.

A said Xbox ONE has no known modifications that allow cheating in Sea of Thieves. No examples. No available exploit software.

FINALLY I AM ARGUING CROSS PLATFORM SHOULD BE OPTIONAL!!! NOT ENDED!

Just stop, the guy and a few other's are legit idiots. I mean no other way I can explain it. Just simple and complete idiots. They like the advantage, don't wanna admit it, so they try and twist everything to fit their agenda. Pathetic and a waste of time. No matter how many times I have seen you write it out, hell spell it out for them they are just not caring. They want easy street and they know it.

@themustamissed said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

PC IS rampant with cheaters. Anyone saying otherwise is a joke and lying to themselves.

Rampant? Where are you getting these stats from? Have you personally come across someone cheating, and if so, what exactly did they do?

A lot of bad players love to blame hacks on good players, especially PC players just because they have the opportunity to cheat. That doesn't mean that 90% of PC players cheat. Your ignorance is laughable.

@logansdadtoo said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

@hoboprof
Nothing more to say to you.
I'm scared i might hurt your feelings in another post & have you report me again!
Have a good day!

That is all he does, He comes into threads, starts trouble, runs his mouth, then when someone says something that hurts his little feelings, he reports like a b***h.

@eddythecaptain said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

@themustamissed said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

PC IS rampant with cheaters. Anyone saying otherwise is a joke and lying to themselves.

Rampant? Where are you getting these stats from? Have you personally come across someone cheating, and if so, what exactly did they do?

A lot of players love to blame hacks on good players, especially PC players just because they have the opportunity to cheat. That doesn't mean that 90% of PC players cheat. Your ignorance is laughable.

I play on both, and yes I know what I am talking about. And when I say rampant I mean across ALL games. Not just this one. The amount of PC hackers compared to console hackers is 1000 fold. I may have worded it a bit weird as you might have thought I meant that cheating is rampant in SoT. Which it is not IMHO. I have only come across one. But please do carry on about how ignorant I am....

@themustamissed I'm curious, how was he hacking?

@eddythecaptain said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

@themustamissed I'm curious, how was he hacking?

Well he played music while I shot him in the face 5 times point blank...If he aint hacking then he found one hell of a bug. He then killed our crew and sunk us. No one could kill him. But he is the only person I have come across that I think was cheating. Most others are just PC players kicking my a*s when I am on xbox. Can I ask why it seems you think no one hacks? I have seen the damn wall hacks and aimbots, just google it... I mean I find it funny when people say everyone is a hacker, but I find it funny that some say there are no hackers. Idiots on both sides I guess?

@themustamissed I never said there was no hackers, but I myself have NEVER witnessed one.

Of course there is cheaters on this game, there is cheaters in EVERY game. Regardless if its on Xbox One or PS4. Yes they have systems in place to stop jailbreaking/JTAGs, but these can be bypassed and work the same way (essentially), as any PC anti-cheat out there. People WILL bypass anti-cheats, but there will always be a patch to combat it.

Also, your story doesn't make sense. If you knew how this game works, you would know damage is handled server-side. There is no cheat/hack that can give you god mode, its impossible. He was either lagging or healing up and destroying you guys :/

@eddythecaptain said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

@themustamissed I never said there was no hackers, but I myself have NEVER witnessed one.

Of course there is cheaters on this game, there is cheaters in EVERY game. Regardless if its on Xbox One or PS4. Yes they have systems in place to stop jailbreaking/JTAGs, but these can be bypassed and work the same way (essentially), as any PC anti-cheat out there. People WILL bypass anti-cheats, but there will always be a patch to combat it.

Also, your story doesn't make sense. If you knew how this game works, you would know damage is handled server-side. There is no cheat/hack that can give you god mode, its impossible. He was either lagging or healing up and destroying you guys :/

Doesn't make sense? Why because you say so? Lol

Of course he was, I'd say go check the video on this very forum with a hacker doing the same thing , but they deleted it. Keep on with that there is no health hack, tote that line as long as you need to man. When its revealed that it is happening, you can explain/excuse that as well.

@eddythecaptain said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

@themustamissed I never said there was no hackers, but I myself have NEVER witnessed one.

Of course there is cheaters on this game, there is cheaters in EVERY game. Regardless if its on Xbox One or PS4. Yes they have systems in place to stop jailbreaking/JTAGs, but these can be bypassed and work the same way (essentially), as any PC anti-cheat out there. People WILL bypass anti-cheats, but there will always be a patch to combat it.

Also, your story doesn't make sense. If you knew how this game works, you would know damage is handled server-side. There is no cheat/hack that can give you god mode, its impossible. He was either lagging or healing up and destroying you guys :/

Lol go stream snipe and lose badly more man. Just watched the whole thing. ROFL

@lobofh said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

@themustamissed about your insults moderation will reply you.

About the rest of your entitled whine, first, you don’t know the meaning of rampant and second, personally the game where I met more hackers in my life was Destiny 1...ups, it had not PC players, weird. Well, let’s see how you reply to this from your ignorant and stereotypical standpoint.

Honestly I am done talking to you. Everyone that tries meets the same b******t. You can't read or are just a dense fool. You're in simple terms an idiot, a sheep. And when someone says something you don't like or calls you out for being a troll and such, you report them like a snowflake. So as of now I will no respond to you anymore as being banned due to snowflake/trolls is not something i wanna deal with.

@themustamissed I just realized hes streaming LOL Its kinda hard to take on a full galley team bro. I'm basically solo right now taking on 4 people. I also killed all of them the only reason they didn't sink is because I had no gunpowder to use ;)

@eddythecaptain said in Good to see PC got a buff in the turning rate...:

@themustamissed I just realized hes streaming LOL Its kinda hard to take on a full galley team bro. I'm basically solo right now taking on 4 people. I also killed all of them the only reason they didn't sink is because I had no gunpowder to use ;)

I watched it all, you sniped. Its clear. You're bad. Now your back with a full crew, how long did you have to jump servers and stream snipe to get back on his server? You're horrible at this game.