What if your ships supply was saved when logging out?

We can't have anything that stays after logging out as it will encourage combat logging. Even if I have no treasure on my ship, I certainly don't want to lose all the supplies I have gathered so I pick my fights carefully. However, there will always be those who log off/unplug the ethernet cable if they're getting beaten.

If you can log off and keep your supplies, people will abuse it.

this is a very good idea!

One big fat YES!!

@rluchty said in What if your ships supply was saved when logging out?:

@doctor-n****e Can't this be combated by adding a log out timer? Say you have to be docked at an outpost or island with no combat for 15 minutes or something? If you d/c or unplug your connection then your ship and items stay in the game for 15 minutes for people to pillage. This also gives people the chance to relog if say...they get disconnected due to the server and no fault of their own?

I don't like it. For one, many players, especially the ones on tight schedules don't have time to sit at a dock for 15 minutes.

Secondly, some abusive pvpers will simply harass and chase them around so they can never dock.

Thirdly, If I have more to lose by getting sunk, I'll take far less risks attacking forts. The only people doing pvp will be the very best and the game will become much more pve focused for the rest.

There are simply too many negative side effects to being able to save your ship state between sessions.

I am not sure I agree with just being able to logout with no consequence with loot onboard. The loot should remain in the game world it was generated.

I do think that if you have loot on board your ship should remain in the game world until you rejoin. Maybe you could hide your ship "Goonies" style, i.e. large costal caves. Or use caves inland to hide your treasure horde.

I want to add voyages to this one as well. Supplies and voyages get saved.

@cyphronite said in What if your ships supply was saved when logging out?:

@rluchty This should be implemented exactly the way you describe it. You can recover from a unwanted disconnect and are punished for intentionally disconnecting. Great idea!

But it's kinda easy to replicate an 'unintentional' disconnect. Go and look how easy it is to do in GTA Online, so you can get an empty lobby and go about your illegal business deliveries without getting chased down by other players.

@sanssariph said in What if your ships supply was saved when logging out?:

@doctor-n****e said in What if your ships supply was saved when logging out?:

We can't have anything that stays after logging out as it will encourage combat logging. Even if I have no treasure on my ship, I certainly don't want to lose all the supplies I have gathered so I pick my fights carefully. However, there will always be those who log off/unplug the ethernet cable if they're getting beaten.

If you can log off and keep your supplies, people will abuse it.

Is this actually a major problem, as long as we limit this to supplies in barrels? Anything not tied down (loot, explosives) is left behind with your ship. If you are the aggressor, the loser combat logging is a straight win. Not only do you get to loot their well-supplied ship (at least, the copy of it they left behind), but they're gone from the server and if you're at a fort you won't see them again.

If you're the person logging, this only benefits you if you have zero loot and no voyages. You can hop to a new server with full supplies, but... not sure that matters a whole lot. You have to waste time recoordinating with your crew as well.

Oh, believe me, people will combat log just to save their supplies, especially if they have no loot or voyages. In Elite: Dangerous, people were combat logging just to deny that attacker a kill (which makes you wonder why they bothered with PvP mode at all). People are running into negative players all the time, but because combat logging is almost pointless (like I say, some people will pull the plug just to avoid someone getting a kill), it's not particularly prevalent. But keeping over supplies after logging will encourage this behaviour. Also, any type of K/D statistic would also encourage this behaviour from people who are 'that guy'.

As you may have noticed, supplies in the game are limited. It's the reason why we scavenge as much as we can from our starting island, then head to the nearest fort for more supplies and gunpowder.

Rare can adjust the amount of supplies available and their respawn rate. If the amount of wooden planks or cannonballs are changed by, say, 10%, that would have quite an affect on ship to ship combat or attacking skeleton forts. If you have 10% more cannonballs and 10% less wooden planks available across the map, attacking is going to be slightly easier than defending. It may not be noticeable on a minute by minute basis, but would be enough to change the 'meta' ever so slightly without players noticing it.

I Love this Idea to Use of Gold for Buying extra Supplies (Maybe like those Crates you Find of Cannon Balls, Planks and Bananas), which can be stolen as well but Not sellable and it is NOT a Death Tax , because you Do NOT have to buy them, you can still collect them from the outposts, Islands, Sunk Ships and etc, but I also think a 4 Man Galleon should start with MORE supplies than they do now.