They aren't punishing players that get reported

The 'player feedback' system is something I call a stress ball system. This may not be justified for the xbox one because i'm new to the console, but with 8-9 years on the xbox 360 I can say with 99% confidence that the player feedback system was a stess ball system.

It was there to make players feel like there was a form of justice amongst the xbox gaming community and that MS were doing their part to promot good gaming culture and deter players from unsporting conduct. The system completely ignored player feedback. It was set to a timer, which started a fresh account at 0 stars and slowly moved them up to 2.5 stars over a period of about 3 months.

The number may be wrong because I noticed this a long time ago, but every single player on the xbox 360 community, no matter how toxic or unsporting or abusive, would have exactly the same player rating as everyone else.

I expect exactly the same of the xbox one. Ultimately there will not be a consequence for toxic players. Suffer we must. You could have just put 'being put in the brig unfairly' by the way. Would have pushed the same point. You'll still get the same people on here suggest that you deserved it, but those sorts of troll are on every forum. I know from personal experience that this happens and that it's rarely justified.

@hot-juicy-pie Yeah it really doesn't surprise me. When I say i'm both bewildered and upset at Rare's complacency and naivety in developing this game, they assume I don't like the game and the fanboys and trolls start slinging mud and accusations.

I'm enjoying the game quite a bit at the moment (being better than 19/20 crews I meet helps). I'm still completely aware and happy to admit that Rare have shown a vast lack of either concern or experience in many areas of the devlopment of this game.
If a player consistantly sabotages their own crew and is reported for it e.g. more than 3 times in a 2 day period, they should be confined to solo play only for 4 days. Something of that nature would be productive I think.

@dills-ghost said in There aren't punishing players that get reported:

@herbclouds All of the acts that are annoying you are completely within the mechanics of the game. People are going to be people, and because video games do not have any real life consequences, these people are going to act out in a game that is about betrayal, disloyalty, and theft.
If your really getting frustrated playing with random people then find a crew of friends to sail with, or sail solo.

I've played this game a fair few hours now. It's certaintly not about betrayal and disloyalty. Those concepts are almost entirely absent in the game, and not really encouraged by it's design in anyway. Theft is in the game's design, but is not relevant to the issues the Op is mentioning.

The games design could use some improvement with the matchmaking and I'd really like to see a player rating system, so players can set what quality level of player they want to sail with.
It would have to be a clevel system though, else it be abused like so much else.

Within a single crew where all players gain from the success of each, there's no justifiable reason for sabotage such as brigging one of the players. It's not like you can take all the treasure for yourself, it automatically goes to all crewmans.

Thanks @KnifeLife, @Inbred-Chimera.

For the thoughtful responses.

It's a shame but the way the game is built just is not living up to my expectations nor is the response to bad behavior.

@Dills-Ghost
Yeah, the actions are all possible within the game but not allowed within the confines of the supposed rules which Rare obviously set up a portal to address infractions of. So, I don't really understand what you're talking about.

@Hot-Juicy-Pie
If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

The brig is a necessary evil, and if you cannot see this, then you are in fact an idiot. There is no stopping someone throwing your chests over board, taking your anchor or some other annoying action. Which is you know.... Actual griefing.

You could argue for "but why not votekick". The point of the brig, is most likely to give players an alternative to votekicking, so people are unable to votekick players right before they deliver chests. Brigging is an inbetweener, because it's "almost" like kicking, but not quite so.

The game was only released a week ago. Those reports take considerably longer than that to investigate and take action.

@lenny2k3
You're an idiot.
The authority to punish players is almost always given unto a group outside of the players themselves because of their incentive to misuse the authority, in order to satisfy their own needs.
Look no further than your own rude, selfish and entitled attitude to see why.
Go somewhere else and look for attention.

@KnifeLife
Indeed. This might be hard to believe, but having a dumb opinion, does in fact make you one. Then again, you are not interested in having a discussion, you only want responses which resonnates with your world view. This is made obvious by the dodging of the points i've made.

@herbclouds
Hehe, "you are wrong because you are mean". What an original response..!
Try to look further than your own nose when complaining about obvious design choices. Again, try making an argument, but I know you can't so that's cool.

Honestly, I think they want the game to be toxic. Think about this for a second... They have a system where if you're battling another crew and you die you end up on the ghost ship, with the other teams dead guys, waiting for about 30 seconds, with proximity voice chat enabled. Now, you would have to be a world class moron to actually think that butt hurt losers aren't going to use this time to spew profanity and insults. This was clearly designed specifically for the purpose of letting people verbally harass each other, because Rare though that would be fun. What's a few insults between strangers to foster a fun friendly community eh Rare? Seriously. Deliberately designed to be toxic or unfathomably moronic game design.

@thelobolegend

"Go somewhere else and look for attention."

-Herbclouds 2018

Are you illiterate? That's not how you type out my username.

@knifelife
Kek, keep dodging.

@lenny2k3
That's not what I said.
Try paraphrasing again.

@herbclouds
Might as well had, since your posts carries no substance or value.

@flowerofcarnage

"Deliberately designed to be toxic or unfathomably moronic game design."

This.

@herbclouds im mot ganna hate on you, but maybe give some solutions

1, are you on a mic? alot of the brig issuea are because people dont use thier mics amd this game needs communication. or they are waiting for a friend, and yea they should ask and not be jerks.

2, if a group does that to u then leave. why even wait amd hang around? it takes like 40 seconds to load back in.

3. if people are joining you and messing with you then you shouldnt be sailing a boat with an open slot. if you start with a buddy and they leave then re log in on a single sloop. that right there will stoo the friend griefing.

again, alot of what u stated sounds like ur not using a mic. i know i could be wrong. If people arent using mics then leave that group. i dont mess with that. its a waste of your time.

@thelobolegend
There are so many illogical things in this statement.
I bet you wouldn't have the same attitude, if police said they know there are criminals, so just buy some new stuff, even after you identified who stole your stuff.
You bought that stuff, you have right to it.
The same as I have a right to play in any game I join.
The police should enforce the rules, as should Rare.
But thanks for the advice I didn't ask for :)

@thelobolegend
The dude has zero solutions of course, him and KnifeLife just toss out things they don't like, like some petulent child, without understand cause and effect.

They fail to grasp the simple reality that is without any way of locking a player out of the game, the game will truly have a problem with griefers.

Got a dude constantly dropping the anchor? Can't do s**t.
Got a dude tossing your chests overboard? Deal with it.
Got a dude killing you with explosives? Yeah, enjoy.

The brig solves this, without robbing the brigged person of the bounty rewards, incase they are being unjustusly punished. (edit: wrong. This should be changed)

"You bought that stuff, you have right to it.
The same as I have a right to play in any game I join.
The police should enforce the rules, as should Rare."

Just look at this filth.

The fact that they're not doing anything and there's no kick option is going to get worse and worse. You can already just stay on the Ferry of the Damned to avoid being put in the brig and afk farm. Nothing anybody can do about it besides go through the trouble and loading screens to switch servers.

@knifelife
Is that so? Then that is my mistake and you are right in that regard.
There's a multitude of solutions which can be improved upon of course, but locking away/kicking players is the only preventative measure for active griefing.

Preventing chest pickups dissuades teamplay and makes things needlessly tedious, while doing nothing to prevent anchor spamming, turning the ships/sails and other gamebreaking actions.

Votekicking in most (tbh all) games are used for griefing. The question is always if it does more harm then good. I for one, believe that the majority should rule, not the minority.

@TheLoboLegend
The analogy was to help you understand something simple.
The same is true in the forum as in the game.
No I am not supposed to post a complaint on the forum and get what I get.
There are rules that are supposed to regulate how everyone acts and what everyone says.
You know that you're not supposed to antagonize people, just like @Lenny2k3.
Why you're all so insistent on seeking out attention, making poor arguments and acting like a children when you understand what you're doing is wrong is beyond me.

@herbclouds
Stop.
Requesting.
Arguments.
When.
You.
Aren't.
Making
Any.

^Much better, this is apparently the way to structure sentences.

@lenny2k3
I also requested that you go somewhere else and look for attention.