[mod edited] To Lower The Unrealistic Commendation Achievement requirements

Also, I gotta add; The people saying "I played 40 hours and only saw one crate" forget to mention that they didn't spend 40 hours spamming merchant missions to see the exact drop rate. They spent 40 hours playing the game, doing lots of other stuff. Sit there for 40 hours and keep dropping merchant missions only, then tell me the exact ratio. I bet it is still low, but tell the whole story and give exact numbers. 40 hours is nothing in this game. You barely scratch the surface in 40 hours, and I prefer it that way.

People crying about 40 hours, you are speaking only half truths to get your point across, but as soon as someone looks a little closer at what you are saying, it is soon evident that you are just full of it.

Oh and Fooga, you may think the thread being bumped is a good thing, but all it is showing is how much people do not want the achievements lowered. I am taking time out of my day to write these posts, time I could spend doing other things. But here i am defending the achievements against people who would see them made easier. Hopefully this shows how important it is to me for Rare to leave the damn things alone.

So keep trying to bait and troll people into bumping the thread, and see how far that gets you. I hope you realise that all your time spent trolling here and on TA could be spent actually playing the game. Maybe you would have found another couple banana crate missions by now.

@bluwolve How am I trolling? Because I don’t agree with you? For someone who prides themselves on being older you really are a child. I’ve played the game on an alternate account. That’s why I’ve stated the game’s current doesn’t live up to the crazy achievement requirements.

Also, I love how you think these achievements and other ones that are ridiculous time sinks are considered challenging by comparing them to actual challenges. Sitting and doing the same thing for hours and hours doesn’t make it an “achievement” by your definition, especially when comparing them to the likes of Battletoads.

At the end of the day they’re losing sales by bolstering these achievements to ridiculous numbers. Should they come to their senses and make these reasonable? Or cater to the one idiot who’s willing to sink the rest of his retirement into Sea of Thieves?

@fooga Haha, so in your opinion doing the same repetitive action over and over is not worth an achievement? What about every grindy achievement ever in any game? One that requires over 1000+ hours? It might not be the most fun to grind the same thing over and over, but you are missing the point. It is a choice to complete them. It doesn't mean anything except to yourself.

If you are enjoying a game and play it enough to complete it, good for you. If you are just looking for the quickest way to complete every game you start before moving on, you are doing it wrong in my opinion.

I admit openly that there are plenty of games I have milked for nothing but easy GS, but not every game you play should be about achievements. In the end it is personal choice how each of us games though I suppose. It is a personal choice if you choose to be a Completionist with your games, no one is forcing you.

Which is why I am so gobsmacked with people like you trying to get the devs to cater to their specific desires, with something as petty as achievements being too time consuming for them. If it is too much, go and play something else.

Achievement hunters in general are a miniscule minority of gamers, so claiming Rare is losing sales because of achievements being too time consuming is laughable. If they are losing sales due to anything achievement related, it would be the fact they are not working properly at the moment. In all honesty though, the number would not be very high.

Edit: Something else I just thought of; Why does it have to be the requirements lowered?

Why not consider any of the other more reasonable alternatives, such as increasing the amount of crate voyages that are available? Or being able to choose to take on specific crate voyages rather than just buying them and canceling if it isn't the right one. Maybe they could have live events like in Elite: Dangerous, community goals they call them in that game.

One example of a SoT live event could be that the prestigious Kong family have requested a huge delivery of bananas. All players can sign up to participate at the merchant and collect banana crates. If the community delivers enough as a whole to meet certain tiers, there are extra rewards at the end. These could be anything from gold payouts to Donkey Kong figure heads, the limit is in the imagination of the devs.

These are all potential ways that the grind could be alleviated. Perhaps consider these reasonable alternatives, that still make the game easier to complete but do not lower the actual requirements for the achievement.

@bluwolve TA is a lot larger than you think. There would definitely be way more people playing it if the achievements weren’t as bad. Usually the player base will boom and then trickle down after a few weeks according to their stats. It’s already pretty low for a big Xbox exclusive. Making the achievements reasonable it’s safe to assume more people would play it.

Also this thread has gotten a lot of votes in about 24 hours. More than it has since it’s been posted. I think it’s safe to say people feel the same way as us.

And if you love the game so much, why not play it after you unlock the achievements? Are you saying that if they made the requirements easier, you’d stop playing it once you completed it? If that’s the case, you’re just as bad as everyone you’re arguing with here.

@fooga I know i will play the game enough, over the course of years perhaps, to unlock all the commendations and associated achievements. I don't know for certain, but i reckon that's what was in mind when the commendations were designed. I am in no hurry to complete the game and move on like the people arguing for the requirements to be lowered. Sea of thieves is a game I have played and still could play without achievements, so one day when I do complete them all, I will most likely still keep playing whenever I have the urge to go sailing. It is the only game of it's kind, and I enjoy it immensely.

Look mate, you are entitled to your opinion. I have made mine pretty clear. I have given alternative suggestions you could use, and tried to explain why I believe trying to lower the requirements is the wrong way to do things. Honestly, I can't be bothered debating the matter anymore.

Happy sailing.

@bluwolve Oh good. You’ll stop.

@rickydown I agree. People can't compare this to Gears. These quests are far too rare to be obtainable through normal gameplay. 1000 captains chests is grindy but I could see that happening naturally with enough time played. I think I've played 30ish+ hours and have had one quest for a gun powder barrel and none for bananas. Games shouldn't try to prolong their life through insanely grindy achievements. I know I'll never ever bother going for a few of them because they're just too unrealistic. You'd have to do thousands and thousands of merchant voyages to even get these. I've also only gotten one Grog chest and no sorrow chests so it seems like they lowered their spawn rate greatly since the alpha/beta. To the person that said people are complaining about no content and now want a lower amount requirement....this isn't changing the content. It's changing the insanely repetitive grind. I guess you could buy quests and cancel them if you don't like what you get but even that would take forever.

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So after 2 weeks players are complaining that it’s too much effort to accomplish certain achievements? 2 weeks? That’s it?

My heart bleeds for what is happening to our society.

2 weeks... smh

Now I can’t get Veruca Salt from Willy Wonka out of my head ‘I WANT IT NOW!!’

I’ve said it before and ill say it again...

...It’s always something with these lootboys.

It’s called basic math. People have calculated based on the time it’s taken for spawn rates, it would take years to finish the achievements. That’s absolutely ridiculous given this game does not have years worth of content.

And w*f is a lootboy? Lol.

@Rickydown Yeah i was looking at these scratching my head. It makes no sense at all and doesnt tie in wth the length of time, or progression required with the other cheevos. I've just got to 150,000 gold with the gold hoarders and merchant,no achievements popped, so with that happening whats the point going for the rest. Apparantly ive only sailed 245 n.miles with gold hoarder missons but yet in total ive sailed 1.2million KM. It just stinks all to high hell.

You cant pick and choose what missions you actually do, that at least would make it doable. Ive done about 3 crates in the 100+ hours ive already sank into it. And a wood crate? Not even seen one.

We just gotta accept someone put an extra 0 on the cheevy and rolled with it Or are really that desperate to keep the servers populated they put stuff like that in on purpose.

Bumper cars!

Requirements are fine as long as they add new ways to obtain said items/missions or have increased drop rate.

In its current state it's ridiculous.

Community events like Elite Dangerous sound like a good idea.

@daft-incarnate They should still lower them. Even 100 of these crates would be a lot of time. At least it’s more realistic.

@fooga
I did say in its current state it's ridiculous.

1000 could be realistic too if they changed how banana crates were obtained in the first place. From what I've read they are currently only available through Message In A Bottle.

Change how we can get them and I'm cool with it.

However, if this is genuinely how it was intended then Rare (microsoft) intentionally tried to appeal to the completionists in order to keep people playing. But at 1000s of hours required for one achievement, they're having a laugh, and I'm going to pass on that one, and so should everyone else.

Absolutely not. It's an Achievement, sometjing you achieve that's meant to be earned a ways away rather than a month or two.

It's mean for those dedicated players, or those with time to get them and have the bragging rights for it.

@king-nahriin While this is true, it's only an Achievement for Xbox. They never give in-game rewards, BUT Xbox did say that they plan to give rewards with Avatars or something with Achievements, and this is an Xbox exclusive, so.. maybe?

@rickydown Well how few you have realised that finding them does nothing for the achievement. You can only do these by getting a quest that says to deliver one of them for it to even count and when you do you just talk to any merchant vendor and he gives it to you, so problem is not we need to find more random ones but to get more quests that have them.

@kawaii-dumpling People have done the math. It’s over 10,000 hours. That’s not even skill based. That’s just sad.