"It's a game to create your own adventure"

  • @clintbeastwoodx said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @leanandmeanbaby

    Who says that you have to limit yourself to that (and god I really hope you're not playing alone) limiting yourself to that is not creating your 'own' adventure.

    bro this isn't real life. Are you on drugs when you play? The game puts constraints on what you can and cant do. For instance in my own pirate adventure I would raid merchant ships. But I cant...

    In my own pirate adventure I would harry British outposts and naval forces. But I cant...

    In my own pirate adventure I would attack towns and villages and plunder their banks. But I cant....

    I cant really do anything I want at all except catch chickens and pigs.

  • @shadow-swift12 said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @leanandmeanbaby It's a massive opened world with multiple players, playing through different short and sweet quests, and other tasks. They think if a game had to run 30 tiny street fighter combats, all over a huge world, in the same server, at the same time.

    so you mean world of warcaraft that has a open map 4 times this size and have battles all over! so you say rare is so bad to code that or similar in their game?
    you see how bad your argument is don't you. face it, don't fight it, you and all of us bought an expensive t**d.

  • @goblobsters said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    The adventure is in the variables of the sandbox my friend. Sure you can hunt animals, you can hunt skeletons, or track down chests, and thats it for the current factions in the game. But there is also the randomness and crew interactions, the other players that may interfere with your collection activities (or you with theirs). And these other players are really the wildcards that make this game fun for me.

    I have had some really cool experiences with this game and as they add more I feel like thats going to get better. There are 62 charted islands in this game and another 5 or 6 uncharted ones. There are storms, forts, and a Kraken roaming about. Heck I actually got hit with a lightning bolt yesterday during play.

    Yeah what this game "lacks" is scripted dialogue (and it actually has a good bit of that and some of its pretty funny if you bother to talk to the NPCs) and computer controlled interactions (AI ships). When people talk about using your imagination they arent saying that you have to pretend coded elements are present in the game that are not.

    Its like this: did you ever play cops and robbers or some such silly game as a child? those games always turned out differently depending on who was playing and who was the good guy and the bad guy. In this game you get to write that script everytime you play, you create the dialogue of how you want to interact with the other players in the world.

    If you dont like that type of game design, then maybe this isnt the game for you. If you are looking for more code to be added to the game, thats coming, and there is actually a lot there already. I mean the friggen game world is beautiful. And the physics are pretty good too (although markedly I dont think they have quite gotten the full grasp on the melee combat yet).

    Also as a final note just because someone likes something you dont and chooses to offer a counter argument to your opinion, doesnt make them stupid or some type of fanboi. That type of stance is a classic forum troll called an appeal to authority, in which you try and devalue another persons opinion by putting them into a lower caste rather than discussing the merits and flaws of the actual stance. And that type of interaction is pretty weak sauce.

    Good Day

    Yep - it's the Pirate Dressing Up Game. Players must supply own Pirate Voice.

    (and btw - chasing a bloody chicken across a small island with a coop in my hand isn't 'hunting')

  • @leanandmeanbaby said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @clintbeastwoodx said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @leanandmeanbaby

    Who says that you have to limit yourself to that (and god I really hope you're not playing alone) limiting yourself to that is not creating your 'own' adventure.

    bro this isn't real life. Are you on drugs when you play? The game puts constraints on what you can and cant do. For instance in my own pirate adventure I would raid merchant ships. But I cant...

    In my own pirate adventure I would harry British outposts and naval forces. But I cant...

    In my own pirate adventure I would attack towns and villages and plunder their banks. But I cant....

    I cant really do anything I want at all except catch chickens and pigs.

    The game requires a bit of imagination.. Apparently that's something you're lacking. That's fine, go play something else. Thanks for your support!

  • The games adventures can be all sorts of things. For example whenever I play solo, I hunt galleons.

    I start by finding gunpowder barrels. Always keep one on my crows nest just in case. I sail around the map looking for galleys and when I find one I play super careful. I sneak up as best I can. Sometimes even letting my ship sail off into the distance while I swim up silently underwater with my keg of destruction. If possible I sneak onboard and ignite it from within the ship. If not I post up beside them and blow it up. I then rush the ladder and get to the lower decks and defend the holes as best I can. If I'm successful I can say I've sunken a 4 man ship without even using my own. Sometimes there is loot involved.

    So yeah there is all kinds of things to do without missions.

  • @leanandmeanbaby said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @clintbeastwoodx said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @leanandmeanbaby

    Who says that you have to limit yourself to that (and god I really hope you're not playing alone) limiting yourself to that is not creating your 'own' adventure.

    bro this isn't real life. Are you on drugs when you play? The game puts constraints on what you can and cant do. For instance in my own pirate adventure I would raid merchant ships. But I cant...

    In my own pirate adventure I would harry British outposts and naval forces. But I cant...

    In my own pirate adventure I would attack towns and villages and plunder their banks. But I cant....

    I cant really do anything I want at all except catch chickens and pigs.

    This. For a pirate game it’s lacking in a lot of places. “Use your imagination” what? This argument seems ignorant to say the least. We are super uncustomized pirates with the only real pirate thing to do is attack other players and steal their stuff. I’ve enjoyed my few days of play but straight from the start I could see my crew and I wouldn’t be able to stay interested and consistently playing like a game with a ten year plan would need. I hope more content is added and the game really lives up to the hype but as is the longevity just isn’t there.

  • @gigglesnarf said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    The games adventures can be all sorts of things. For example whenever I play solo, I hunt galleons.

    I start by finding gunpowder barrels. Always keep one on my crows nest just in case. I sail around the map looking for galleys and when I find one I play super careful. I sneak up as best I can. Sometimes even letting my ship sail off into the distance while I swim up silently underwater with my keg of destruction. If possible I sneak onboard and ignite it from within the ship. If not I post up beside them and blow it up. I then rush the ladder and get to the lower decks and defend the holes as best I can. If I'm successful I can say I've sunken a 4 man ship without even using my own. Sometimes there is loot involved.

    So yeah there is all kinds of things to do without missions.

    Ya know, that's cool and all. Are you going to keep doing that same thing for the next year?

    And you use that to justify the argument that there's "all kinds of things" to do without missions but that's literally just one thing.

    Cool.

    Case in point.

  • @leanandmeanbaby said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @gigglesnarf said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    The games adventures can be all sorts of things. For example whenever I play solo, I hunt galleons.

    I start by finding gunpowder barrels. Always keep one on my crows nest just in case. I sail around the map looking for galleys and when I find one I play super careful. I sneak up as best I can. Sometimes even letting my ship sail off into the distance while I swim up silently underwater with my keg of destruction. If possible I sneak onboard and ignite it from within the ship. If not I post up beside them and blow it up. I then rush the ladder and get to the lower decks and defend the holes as best I can. If I'm successful I can say I've sunken a 4 man ship without even using my own. Sometimes there is loot involved.

    So yeah there is all kinds of things to do without missions.

    Ya know, that's cool and all. Are you going to keep doing that same thing for the next year?

    And you use that to justify the argument that there's "all kinds of things" to do without missions but that's literally just one thing.

    Cool.

    Case in point.

    Your not very good at being civil about it are You? There is a plethora of things to do. Not to mention the imminent arrival of new things to this game. If you lack motivation then I suppose you shouldn't be playing it.

  • @clintbeastwoodx said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @leanandmeanbaby said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @clintbeastwoodx said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @leanandmeanbaby

    Who says that you have to limit yourself to that (and god I really hope you're not playing alone) limiting yourself to that is not creating your 'own' adventure.

    bro this isn't real life. Are you on drugs when you play? The game puts constraints on what you can and cant do. For instance in my own pirate adventure I would raid merchant ships. But I cant...

    In my own pirate adventure I would harry British outposts and naval forces. But I cant...

    In my own pirate adventure I would attack towns and villages and plunder their banks. But I cant....

    I cant really do anything I want at all except catch chickens and pigs.

    The game requires a bit of imagination.. Apparently that's something you're lacking. That's fine, go play something else. Thanks for your support!

    Ever hear about what happened to the oh so awesome Destiny, Destiny 2, The Division and so on? Yeah they died within a month or two compared to launch and they had FAR more stuff to do than Sea of Thieves.

    I almost can't believe I'm using Destiny, Destiny 2 and The Division as examples of games having more content than SoT.......

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    Cosplay is basically "dress-up" for adults. Except the costumes are over-the-top levels of accuracy. Go to any convention about a fictional property or properties (Comic Con is the best example) and you'll see hundreds around.

  • I guess the query becomes at this point "what if no meaningful new content occurs?".

    Rare would have been aware of the "the beta is only a fraction of the game" argument that was rolled out to any sort criticism leveled at the repetitive content in the game - and I don't blame them for that. Coming clean and saying "couple more skeletons and the Kraken, that's about it" would have been PR suicide. It's just better to allow people to hype your stuff without stopping them or saying "well actually..."

    It's cool.

    We're supposed to be getting this big content update in about 3 months, but of course it's very vague. When asked directly in the Reddit AMA whether legendary ships would be their own distinct vessel or just a skin slapped on top of one of the existing ships they were exceptionally evasive in answering, and really little is known about the plans from here on out. Perhaps there aren't any?

    I'm assuming that there must be a plan because they're totally going to want to rinse us for Microtransactions and there's no way to do that if everyone has wandered off to do something else.

    I'm personally quite apprehensive about the whole thing because while the game has all the depth of a dried up puddle at the moment, it is legitimately incredible as an experience. I just love it to bits, but I've also got to nod when people say "there's not much to it, really". I also have to raise an eyebrow when people throw doubt on actual proper new content because this game has been in production for a long time, and really, there ought to be more here.

    I dunno. Just thinking out loud. I think the immediate plan for me is to just enjoy the game for what it is. I've spent the money now - and if I get bored and Rare take a year and a half to add anything, I can just come back to it at that point.

  • @blam320 said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @leanandmeanbaby said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @blam320 said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @leanandmeanbaby said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @clintbeastwoodx

    @clintbeastwoodx said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @leanandmeanbaby said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @clintbeastwoodx said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @leanandmeanbaby

    Who says that you have to limit yourself to that (and god I really hope you're not playing alone) limiting yourself to that is not creating your 'own' adventure.

    bro this isn't real life. Are you on drugs when you play? The game puts constraints on what you can and cant do. For instance in my own pirate adventure I would raid merchant ships. But I cant...

    In my own pirate adventure I would harry British outposts and naval forces. But I cant...

    In my own pirate adventure I would attack towns and villages and plunder their banks. But I cant....

    I cant really do anything I want at all except catch chickens and pigs.

    The game requires a bit of imagination.. Apparently that's something you're lacking. That's fine, go play something else. Thanks for your support!

    This is such a poor response. Imagination?? I'm not 10. Do you pick up a piece of siding and play sword fight in your house too?

    Maybe I should start marketing refrigerator boxes to people as Porsches and tell potential buyers it just requires some imagination.

    This is a video game I'm not running around in my underwear pretending I'm on a pirate ship during Saturday morning cartoons. For $60 I don't want to have to imagine things. I want to actually have those things.

    Jesus C****t you people.

    People like you are pathetic and hypocritical. Claiming to be above such "childish things" as play-pretend while whining like a toddler in online message boards. Clearly you've never heard of cosplay.

    W*F is cosplay?? I bought a videogame not some weird f****h getup.

    Cosplay is basically "dress-up" for adults. Except the costumes are over-the-top levels of accuracy. Go to any convention about a fictional property or properties (Comic Con is the best example) and you'll see hundreds around.

    So if I buy a pirate costume and wear it at home, then game will have more stuff to do?

  • @shadow-swift12 said in "It's a game to create your own adventure":

    @noxsamus No, other games. Read in detail you. Other games don't even have more than 20.

    You must not play alot of games

  • @blam320 Oh, then why did you bring it up?

  • @clintbeastwoodx hey we solo pirates love our adventures alone. Lol fr tho i solo n join crew. But theres nothing wrong with playing alone. :)

  • Eh, my take is that the game definitely needs more stuff. Its barebones at the moment, but what IS in the game (bar swordfighting) is excellent. Plus it has amazing scope for shenanigans with friends.

    But yes, its definitely in need of added depth. Cant really argue otherwise. Looking at the quality of what we have though, I'm willing to give them some time.

  • @Bieltan
    @spiderjerusalem
    If you are just swinging a sword for melee combat your doing it wrong.

    Try holding block and moving backwards to position skeletons together and charge. You can kill a bunch at once or knock them back if you don't. This gets even more fun against players using pistols or swords. Keep a mast between you and them and hold charge till almost released then move to the side and knock them off the boat. Works hilariously well.

  • @Deckhands might want to look though this thread, gotten a bit hostile

  • @mattydove74 I think both sides of this argument are stupid but I get really excited by Pet Rocks. Some dude became a multi-millionaire by selling rocks that is exciting no?

  • @SpiderJerusalem @leanandmeanbaby @Blam320 @MattyDove74 several posts have been deleted. Please refer to The Pirate Code before your next post.

  • People crying about a $60 game that gave them probably a days worth of entertainment at least and yet those same people will go out and eat for the same amount and having nothing to show for it the next day. There will be updates.

    This isn't destiny. You won't get levels, new weapons, items that will help you power vertically... it is a sandbox game. Now, with that said. I think tavern games may add some depth to the game :) As long as there is no DLC right now, I am A-Okay with the state of the game.

  • It's typically a red flag when a game comes with that tagline.

  • @kegfaulty I don't know about most people, but when these types of games come out I generally enjoy them for the first couple of hours until the grind sets in. I don't think an argument can be made for longevity when most are seemingly putting up with the repetition to get to the end-game. If there were more goals between now and Athena it wouldn't be so bad, but as is, my entire crew have already bought pretty much everything they want and they've begun to question why they're still playing.

  • Chill man, it's a good game!

  • @capt-explodabob Right which is why most games fill that empty void with grind material and vertical progression. yet, you go to some games like blackwake (Another first person pirate game on steam) and you literally ONLY have ship battles yet hardly anyone complains. If this was an indie title, everyone would be saying this the artistic direction of a small team.

    The fact that this is RARE, they complain there isn't more. More will come, I am sure. If not, I have had at least 20 hours of fun so far ($3 an hour... I spend more at a movie theatre...).

  • @spiderjerusalem I'll break it down. This isn't Minecraft, it's not Skyrim, it's not Warcraft, it's a new game. Whatever their plan is we're slowly seeing it. So far, I enjoy the f**k out of this game. I play with 1-2 friends, and we just talk about stuff, or discuss ships we see, we enjoy fighting off other pirates, talking about ideas for the games future, or how f*****g pretty that sky and water is. We brag about who has higher levels in factions, decide who wants to main what faction, all that. It's loads of fun, since it's not an overly thought provoking game but it's fun when I'm not just on my own (Even when I am, I look for lore, or just grind levels for a bit). I expect changes since despite you and the other people who don't like it but say you want it to get better, but say all the games fans suck? (But also say it needs more fans so it'll get updated, but it's not going to happen since the game sucks, but also say you hope they can fix it? Make up your damn mind I've read like 12 of your posts and you keep changing arguments). There's a lot of people who like it and want to see changes. There's proof, go scroll through other posts, and like, a lot of this forum. And even not here, the Twitter, go on youtube, anywhere. This game is currently hugely popular, even at the current point with glitches and a lack of a bunch of content. I'm enjoying it for what I have now, and what I hope to have in the future. You can insult me all you want but there's a f**k ton of people who don't care and will just play for a while, and if it doesn't change, even after they've made pirate legend, then yeah it'll fall apart, but I doubt it. This games got potential, it got a bit screwed because xbox deadlined it, but that's not going to stop these devs they're kinda committed. If you don't like where it's going put it down but honestly, you can't make me hate it by saying it's bad, I'm not sick of it yet.
    LOL

  • @kegfaulty True, it's no conker's bad fur day but it's lovable now and I bet it'll get more so. They've had a few bad years, and a kinda small crew, and this has been tough for them as it's pretty much the first live game they've made.

  • @kegfaulty DLC has been guaranteed free, that's why we've got micro-transactions.

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