Okay, first of all this game has the back bone and base mechanics that No Man's Sky didn't. I spent 60 damned hours in No Man's Sky, I doubt you even played it, so get off your high horse.
Second, you're right, the game does need to add more content. Absolutely. What it doesn't need is garbage character growth and ship upgrades that were explicitly stated not to be in the game. This is a Sandbox game, not an RPG.
No where close to NMS. Game needs more content? Well be patient because it's coming. NMS didn't fulfill what they promised on release, SOT did. We have our 3 factions, sailing, stealing, places to explore, and most of all, the Kraken(which I've looked around for hours and haven't seen it once, but I know people who have).
@iishadowii76 dijo en Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky
So good?
Fantastic.
You are over exaggerating how bad this game is by a lot. It's great that they didn't add that much to a game like this right out the gate bc it leaves us with ideas for what we as gamers want the development team to add to. I'm extremely posses about no good or xp after over 20hrs of in game, but I will get over it bc I know that this game will keep growing and growing.
@iishadowii76
Killing a skeleton and also got no rewards
That's life. The sea is hard, you have to respect it.
I don't need every time a reward for everything, what I am doing.
There will be those that hate Sea of Thieves, its limited questing, the unguided experience and the lack of progression-based gameplay rewards. Others, though, will relish the freedom. This is role-playing in its purest form, offering just enough tools to help you forge your own destiny across the ocean.
There's little challenge in the balmy calm of a blue-skied day, of course, but as the winds change, and the ocean shifts from peaceful tranquility to crashing terror, as genuinely fearsome storms - or indeed other vessels - cross your path, that's when the Sea of Thieves comes into its own, and the simplistic framework of questing unfurls into the richly complex chaos of its emergent encounters.
These are the glorious adventures that arise through circumstance, pushed upon you by the whims of the ocean, the overarching quest structure, and the simple fact that everyone at sea is playing by their own personal piratical rules, riding the waves as honourable rogues, bloodthirsty warmongers, and everything in between.
In Sea of Thieves, there are no mandatory activities, only guiding systems - and at launch these predominantly consist of treasure hunting, item transportation, and PvE skeleton slaughtering. They're simple things, repetitive even, but they're delivered with a theatrical flair that captures the essence of piracy wonderfully.
As those wondrous waves rise and fall, slamming across your bow, tossing the horizon back and forth, as your loyal crew of fellow humans raise the sails and load the cannons, there's an incredible solidity to the experience - and I honestly can't remember the last time I felt so present in a game.
@oceanmann7 sagte in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
This is a Sandbox game, not an RPG.
Iam not sure if you can really call it a sandbox, because it is mainly about doing missions. Not much sand left, so...
@iishadowii76 said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
@selnor1983
But the fact is that the content of the game is not compatible with the price.
So you say fact. On what basis are you basing the fact on? Your opinion? My opinion? Statistics?
The content is in Sea Of Thieves not as a carrot like Destiny or The Division. It's there to nudge you out into the world to make your own pirate stories. It's not their for you to continually grind away to get that next light level or Gearscore.
It's there to throw you together with other real pirate players. To interact.
Modern gaming has hardwired players into thinking online is all about replaying the same missions 1000 times to get that next gun that makes absolutely zero difference to you. But you are made to think it does because the dps number went up 20.
This game is worth every penny. In my opinion. Because it does more than Rare promised it would do. And they have not once told me the game would be any other than it is.
@iishadowii76 said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
@selnor1983
But the fact is that the content of the game is not compatible with the price.
That's purely down to each player. What I might be content to pay $60 for, another may not. I am happy with the kronor I spent buying the game. But then again, I am easily pleased xD.
@shralla said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
I spent dozens of hours just playing the betas alone. Now I've spent over a dozen on the full game. If the game isn't worth the money, how is it that I've gotten at least 40 hours of entertainment, to the tune of barely over $1/hour?
Because you're easily amused? The game's content is lacking and the fact not only people here, but on reddit, youtube/twitch are saying it is a testament to that. The game's price is higher than the content provided and that is the problem. It's fixable, but it shouldn't of been launched with so little things to do. Too many games have done it in the past, this should not be a problem in a game released with so many before it making the same mistake.
@selnor1983
Man, I love Rare as much as the next guy, but ease your h*****n down a bit there buddy.
Game is fun and I'm enjoying it, but $60 is outrageous for the lack of actual content in game. Glad it's on Game Pass, I see a large playerbase quitting after a month or so of hardcore playtime.
The missions are almost all the same, the enemies ARE all the same, there is little to nothing to interact with in game other than the "loot" items, only the same handful of weapons with different skins, there are amazing islands and scenes with awesome atmosphere...and nothing else to them.
The games great and all, but it is a husk of a game with little filler or actual lore or sustenance. Even most of the skins are lackluster IMO sadly.
They need to flush out the actual in game world with more detailed monsters/things to do instead of the same rinse and repeat, and possibly look into a drop-able item system for monsters like temp swords or something, and rewards for something like the Kraken (As far as I am aware there are no other random events/monsters like that in game also, which is hugely disappointing).
The game in it's current state is not worth $60, I'm sorry, it's just not, the map is cool, the idea is cool, the layout is cool...but the game is hollow and the matchmaking on PC is a nightmarish joke... You can buy Salt on steam for $15 and it's the same game style with different artwork.
Not saying I don't like the game, I plan on playing it until I get tired of it and enjoying it while I do lol, I just understand where people come from on these kind of things, this is the game industry we have and are creating by people like the guys on this forum and others like it defending to the death games that come out lackluster and in need of content updates/patches at release. People can say all they want that they will add stuff later and so on, but for those who spent $60 day one that seems somewhat unfair to try and justify.
edit: I have only put 10-15 hours in since release, so if it gets crazy better/more monsters/missions later on then hell yeah, but I'm going off first impressions.
@kashaarafall said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
@shralla said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
I spent dozens of hours just playing the betas alone. Now I've spent over a dozen on the full game. If the game isn't worth the money, how is it that I've gotten at least 40 hours of entertainment, to the tune of barely over $1/hour?
Because you're easily amused? The game's content is lacking and the fact not only people here, but on reddit, youtube/twitch are saying it is a testament to that. The game's price is higher than the content provided and that is the problem. It's fixable, but it shouldn't of been launched with so little things to do. Too many games have done it in the past, this should not be a problem in a game released with so many before it making the same mistake.
I say Final Fantasy 15 isn't worth £50. Am I to push my reasons out there as to why?
No because the game clearly wasn't meant for my tastes. (Even though 1-10 are to my tastes).
So the point is this. This game has already proved itself to many that its worth the price.
For those that aren't happy there are games with false progression and content. Like The Division/Destiny. Which IMO aren't worth the money also.
Which brings us full circle to "What's of value to one Pirate me lad, is not of Value to another."
Arrrrggghhh
totally agree i played the f**k out of no man sky and the ending of the game when you reach the centre of the universe is up there with one of the worst endings since sheppards death in mass effect 3 lol.
No man sky is nothing like this.
This game is everything no man sky should have been.
The fact you compare them makes it look like you haven't played no man sky.
No man Sky isnt even an MMO it isnt even online lol they are nothing alike.
@kashaarafall unless you are pirate legend how do you know everything the game has to offer ? don't see how you can say its not worth it without finishing it
@selnor1983 said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
@kashaarafall said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
@shralla said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
I spent dozens of hours just playing the betas alone. Now I've spent over a dozen on the full game. If the game isn't worth the money, how is it that I've gotten at least 40 hours of entertainment, to the tune of barely over $1/hour?
Because you're easily amused? The game's content is lacking and the fact not only people here, but on reddit, youtube/twitch are saying it is a testament to that. The game's price is higher than the content provided and that is the problem. It's fixable, but it shouldn't of been launched with so little things to do. Too many games have done it in the past, this should not be a problem in a game released with so many before it making the same mistake.
I say Final Fantasy 15 isn't worth £50. Am I to push my reasons out there as to why?
No because the game clearly wasn't meant for my tastes. (Even though 1-10 are to my tastes).
So the point is this. This game has already proved itself to many that its worth the price.
For those that aren't happy there are games with false progression and content. Like The Division/Destiny. Which IMO aren't worth the money also.
Which brings us full circle to "What's of value to one Pirate me lad, is not of Value to another."
Arrrrggghhh
As I stated, You're easily amused. FF15 is infact a good game that gets hate for it's combat system. This game is a good game for its exploration system and that is it. The combat is lack luster, the melee combat is that of fable years ago(Actually fable is deeper) the gun system is just about the most standard FPS you can find, but when you get down to sailing, it's unique and fun.
So, the OP's statement of it being NMS is right, NMS was or is an exploration game that was DESIGNED around exploration and it does its job well. This game was designed as an open world exploration/pvp game and you gain nothing for doing any of it outside of some coin. In the world of ships, there are actually upgrades. Ones that make you sturdier, more accurate with the cannons aka cannon variety, better sails, better/light anchors etc. Something to show player progression.
Instead, you have cosmetics, which, are not bad, but they wouldn't be so bad if they actually had flavor or variety. You instead have a small amount to choose from, which of course will lead to people in the same sets and looking the same. Eh, you're a Bilge rat too! Ayyyee! Yada yada.
Point is though, the content is infact not there. People are noticing it and hell, even RARE is noticing it with the promise of game support for a long time, but launching a game with little to do leaves little to promote. People will get bored and take notice of all the faults vs the price tag and say "There has to be a better alternative." which I can most definitely tell you on PC there are, but not on Xbox.
@kashaarafall said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
@shralla said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
I spent dozens of hours just playing the betas alone. Now I've spent over a dozen on the full game. If the game isn't worth the money, how is it that I've gotten at least 40 hours of entertainment, to the tune of barely over $1/hour?
Because you're easily amused? The game's content is lacking and the fact not only people here, but on reddit, youtube/twitch are saying it is a testament to that. The game's price is higher than the content provided and that is the problem. It's fixable, but it shouldn't of been launched with so little things to do. Too many games have done it in the past, this should not be a problem in a game released with so many before it making the same mistake.
Sounds more like you just don't like the kind of game this is and you would rather complain about the fact that everything isn't catered to you than move on with your life and accept that not everything in the world has to conform to your standards. Plenty of people like what it has to offer, and just because YOU don't doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with it. I've had more fun playing Sea of Thieves than I've had playing any game in the last ten years. You could easily just play a game that's more in line with your personal taste, but instead you'd rather complain and tell everybody who likes this one that they're wrong because they don't feel the same way as you. No game is for everybody, deal with it.
@kashaarafall said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
@selnor1983 said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
@kashaarafall said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
@shralla said in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
I spent dozens of hours just playing the betas alone. Now I've spent over a dozen on the full game. If the game isn't worth the money, how is it that I've gotten at least 40 hours of entertainment, to the tune of barely over $1/hour?
Because you're easily amused? The game's content is lacking and the fact not only people here, but on reddit, youtube/twitch are saying it is a testament to that. The game's price is higher than the content provided and that is the problem. It's fixable, but it shouldn't of been launched with so little things to do. Too many games have done it in the past, this should not be a problem in a game released with so many before it making the same mistake.
I say Final Fantasy 15 isn't worth £50. Am I to push my reasons out there as to why?
No because the game clearly wasn't meant for my tastes. (Even though 1-10 are to my tastes).
So the point is this. This game has already proved itself to many that its worth the price.
For those that aren't happy there are games with false progression and content. Like The Division/Destiny. Which IMO aren't worth the money also.
Which brings us full circle to "What's of value to one Pirate me lad, is not of Value to another."
ArrrrggghhhAs I stated, You're easily amused. FF15 is infact a good game that gets hate for it's combat system. This game is a good game for its exploration system and that is it. The combat is lack luster, the melee combat is that of fable years ago(Actually fable is deeper) the gun system is just about the most standard FPS you can find, but when you get down to sailing, it's unique and fun.
So, the OP's statement of it being NMS is right, NMS was or is an exploration game that was DESIGNED around exploration and it does its job well. This game was designed as an open world exploration/pvp game and you gain nothing for doing any of it outside of some coin. In the world of ships, there are actually upgrades. Ones that make you sturdier, more accurate with the cannons aka cannon variety, better sails, better/light anchors etc. Something to show player progression.
Instead, you have cosmetics, which, are not bad, but they wouldn't be so bad if they actually had flavor or variety. You instead have a small amount to choose from, which of course will lead to people in the same sets and looking the same. Eh, you're a Bilge rat too! Ayyyee! Yada yada.
Point is though, the content is infact not there. People are noticing it and hell, even RARE is noticing it with the promise of game support for a long time, but launching a game with little to do leaves little to promote. People will get bored and take notice of all the faults vs the price tag and say "There has to be a better alternative." which I can most definitely tell you on PC there are, but not on Xbox.
Your clearly missing the point. Value is subjective. There is no way tou can make it anything else.
Until you understand that there isn't any point in having a discussion about it.
@iishadowii76
Hu hu hu hu! You so funny! And so creative!
Have you told this joke to your friends? You should!
It's not like 50 people already made this nonsense comparison.
...
No, ok, it is.
@iishadowii76 sagte in Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky:
Now sea of thieves = No Man's Sky
The game must add new things ( In particular, this game has no character growth.)
Otherwise, the current price is completely too expensive.
(A A A price ?????????? Can't see the reasonableness of this price at all)
IDK, I had one hour of fun with NMS, I had 20 hours of fun with SoT so far. Which is about three times more than a standard singleplayer game provides.
@iishadowii76
Is it just a common practice to compare every game to NMS if people don't agree with the content?
It's sort of funny to see people complaining about missing content so shortly after launch that you can be sure they didn't see that much of the game yet.
Also regarding character growth: The developers stated that this is not part of the games concept, so for now it seems unlikely that they will change their minds about this.
About the price: yeah, it's expensive. But it's still hard to point out if the budget was that high and this price is required. On the other hand not everyone pays this price due to the game pass, so it's even harder to calculate the reasonable price if you're not involved in the games development...
