@seldros we will have to wait for more data. How many time an average player can get a basic set of skin for a ship !
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It wont take 40 hours of gameplay to earn 70,000 gold coins.
What do you even base these assumptions on? It ain't math, thats for sure.And why shouldn't ship customizations be expensive anyways? I'm totally fine with having items of great value which takes time to save up for. And when you show off your expensive outfit or formidable ship to your crew - they will be amazed, because they know what hard work was done to achieve that.
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as i said, it's only different textures, i can't fathom why they would add so few for launch. It's really really simple and quick to do. Like really. Sails are basically one flat color with a logo... It's unbelievable.Why you don't design games, or why Rare doesn't just hire you on the spot right now is beyond me.
Ha ! The good old "OH YEAH ? AND WHY DON'T YOU MAKE YOUR OWN GAME THEN ?".
SoT has a lot of amazing things, but that shouldn't keep us from critisize, and honestly, 8 sails variations at launch, that is hard to believe. That's why i believe there must be more in other outposts.
Criticizing and entirely playing off what it takes to make something and have it function in game are two different things lol.
Act like they paint a symbol on a white square in MSpaint and hand that in as work done.
Just saying, you seem to know these things as a fact, which I can only assume is through skill.
That's the thing, i'm not just assuming because i know very well how to make a mesh and a material on 3DSMax and Substance Painter, and how to import them into the Unreal Engine.
Not. Just. Assuming.@emanuel-wynnn and how can you know that also ? And it's not for 70,000 G, it's for 210,000 G (base set for a ship)
We all played the Beta. Did you got 10,000 G per hour ? I don't think so !
Basic math and honest prediction on progression rewards !@aenima123 I'm pretty sure you do and if that were all they were working on there might actually be a problem, but I'd be willing to bet they have a ton of stuff they are currently working on.
Maybe just give them a little time and see what happens? I mean the game has just made it to launch. I'm sure they are trying to prepare future content and trying to make sure launch goes smoothly.
Oh geez are we here again.
First everybody complains about content and that there is nothin to do.
Now everybody complains about such expensive ship customization which would take longer than 4 weeks grind.what is wrong with you ppl, please try to see the bigger picture and not just whats infront of your bloody nose. If you want a 10hrs single player game without any pvp and possibly cheat codes to get everything for free,.... this is the bloody wrong game for you. Maybe try Sims4 instead.
wOw, just wOw -_-
@coyote4711 Arrr mate, I noticed you mentioned something about a big picture, was wondering If I might lodge a complaint against it. Lol, but seriously yeah everyone needs to just relax a bit and give Rare time to do their thing.
@dragonic26 I think you're talking and making a fuss about stuff you don't know. do you even know how much is a chest when lvl 50 in a faction ?
@coyote4711 said in The prices:
Oh geez are we here again.
First everybody complains about content and that there is nothin to do.
Now everybody complains about such expensive ship customization which would take longer than 4 weeks grind.what is wrong with you ppl, please try to see the bigger picture and not just whats infront of your bloody nose. If you want a 10hrs single player game without any pvp and possibly cheat codes to get everything for free,.... this is the bloody wrong game for you. Maybe try Sims4 instead.
wOw, just wOw -_-
I honestly loved playing the beta
but to be honest, i can play live right now and I don't really feel like it. I feel scammed to be honest.
It does not take a long time to add in models for items. It takes even less to add in sail colors and designs.
There are 4
4 (Mod Edited) choices in a game where everything is based on cosmetic. Thats a joke.
I thought they were going to add double that from the beta. What did they do? They upped the prices 10x instead.
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@coyote4711 said in The prices:
I honestly loved playing the beta
but to be honest, i can play live right now and I don't really feel like it. I feel scammed to be honest.
It does not take a long time to add in models for items. It takes even less to add in sail colors and designs.
There are 4
4 (Mod Edited) choices in a game where everything is based on cosmetic. Thats a joke.
I thought they were going to add double that from the beta. What did they do? They upped the prices 10x instead.
Cryyyy and they upped the revenue per chest brought by 4x also.
wait until you have at least a few days behind the wheel before complaining about end game stuff...From your statement I assume you have experience in 3d modeling, texturing and game production pipeline, no?!
From my experience with 3d modeling and texturing alone, i can say it takes SOME time. for an amateure like me surely longer than a pro, but a creative process aint nothing you can or should force out in minimum time. It takes time, yeah even for pros, even for ppl who get paid. if you want a solid product, it sometimes takes time.you have a whole game ahead of you and only seen a microscopic part of it, yet you complain about the lack of additional ship customization. I also assume you already got that 70k cash hoarded in and now facing the choice on which stupid, superficial cosmetic you gonna spend it on. Take your time,... this game is gonna be around for while. maybe even safe those 70k gold for something else, maybe get all the new clothes first, or maybe the equipment first? I dont know, if I could play and had 70k i surely would not complain on the forums about this horrid scam this game is, since i propably would sail around sink other ships out of pure rage about the developer.
i am sorry if this sounds rude, i propably should take a break from the forums since I have no patience with my fellow community members who keep complaining about things they want. i assure you, its nothin personal. :)
You think 40 hours of gameplay for a whole set of cosmetics on your ship is too much?
Because i do not. I'm all about the "work for your epics" mentality.I'm 100% fine with the prices as they are. Theres something to work for - and it also adds immensely to the satisfaction of owning these expensive items while adding overall value to the items, when you're doing a show-off of these said items to your crew and fellow pirates.
Cheap or even free items ain't impressive. Y'know?
These prices also prevents people from having everything at an early stage obviously. Which would be no fun at all, if you ask me!
@emanuel-wynnn said in The prices:
You think 40 hours of gameplay for a whole set of cosmetics on your ship is too much?
That's just an opinion though. Dont blow it up to something it ain't.I'm 100% fine with the prices as they are. Theres something to work for - and it also adds immensely to the satisfaction of owning these expensive items while adding overall value to the items, when you're doing a show-off of these said items to your crew and fellow pirates.
These prices also prevents people from having everything at an early stage obviously. Which would be no fun at all, if you ask me!
Same, this way everyone can bring something to the table for your ships looks, not just 1 person who already farmed everything in 1 hour.
@meingott77 Seems like someone failed math class. Did you forget the day they went over combinations in class?
Because there is more than 4 choices, it is MUCH larger than that. Because there is a choice for each piece that means there is a combination of pieces and that means there is a combination for each way you can set up your ship... It is like 40,000+, IF you have 8 objects to choose from there is like 40,320, and Currently in game there is 16(Four each section)...Not to mention the stuff and drops we don't know about.
So saying there is only 4 choices is really not true at all.
@emanuel-wynnn I agree also 40H? that is a joke... The trade faction nets like 3K on 1 voyage to start with.
When people complain about the time and money it just shows they have no idea how to grind in this game and they just assume it is going to take that long. They don't maximize time or play efficiently.
What takes them 40Hs to do will likly take a player who is paying attention like 10Hs.
I can honestly say that part of the reason Sea of Thieves grabbed me so much, was that the treasure/rep grinding, while fun, was purely secondary to the experiential gameplay. When some clever pirates made off with my entire treasure stash (I was exploring dang it!) I literally turned to my crewmates, shrugged, and went "I guess we get to keep sailing, eh?" With a cheer, they set to get on the waves again.
The cosmetics are purely that, and should not be instantly unlocked. That said, as you turn in more chests/skulls/Pickens, you'll get better voyages, which will get you better chests and so on. It will come in time, so enjoy the ride!
@capn-forge said in The prices:
I can honestly say that part of the reason Sea of Thieves grabbed me so much, was that the treasure/rep grinding, while fun, was purely secondary to the experiential gameplay. When some clever pirates made off with my entire treasure stash (I was exploring dang it!) I literally turned to my crewmates, shrugged, and went "I guess we get to keep sailing, eh?" With a cheer, they set to get on the waves again.
The cosmetics are purely that, and should not be instantly unlocked. That said, as you turn in more chests/skulls/Pickens, you'll get better voyages, which will get you better chests and so on. It will come in time, so enjoy the ride!
This is certainly true for me. My friend and I were drunk while someone boarded our ship and ran off with our treasure. We saw him, but due to our state of inebriation, we couldn't make it up the stairs to chase him.
It wasn't the least bit disappointing. It was hilarious.
@raggedynaphtali said in The prices:
@meingott77 Seems like someone failed math class. Did you forget the day they went over combinations in class?
Because there is more than 4 choices, it is MUCH larger than that. Because there is a choice for each piece that means there is a combination of pieces and that means there is a combination for each way you can set up your ship... It is like 40,000+, IF you have 8 objects to choose from there is like 40,320, and Currently in game there is 16(Four each section)...Not to mention the stuff and drops we don't know about.
So saying there is only 4 choices is really not true at all.
that's the worst excuse for a game only having 4 sets I've ever read.
4 armor sets, in a game where cosmetics are the only game progression. Oooo we can unlock recolors!
hell sails are the easiest thing to add more of and there's still only 4 choices. Last pirate game I loved, archeage, let us upload our own sail designs and had scores of armor sets. Oh and it was free to play..
I never thought I would be feeling like this at launch. I just feel scammed.
They've had 3 years to make this game and all they could come up with was 4 armor sets? Are you kidding me? I couldn't believe the lack of choice on the beta and figured launch was when the full inventory would be added. Nope. They just raised the price x10.
what a huge let down.
@meingott77 And comparing SOT to Archage is like comparing a ferrari(SOT) to a stone wheel that never really rolls correctly(Archage).
ARchage was garbage...
@raggedynaphtali said in The prices:
@meingott77 There are no armor sets in SOT. What are you talking about? DO you even own the game?
armor sets/item sets. whatever. SoT has 4
admirals
bilge rat
sovereign
sea dogI don't know what games you've played, but that is just pathetic. I don't know what the work ethic is at rare but I am just stunned at how they thought this was acceptable for launch. This games progression is based off cosmetic...and there are only 4 variants...
@meingott77 And each of those grouping has like 4 variants, 1 set as basic, and then 3 more from rep, each has it is own look and coloration. That is not 4 sets that is 16. Learn to count...
And they are not armor sets they are customization on appearance. They have no stats and do not affect game play at all.
@raggedynaphtali said in The prices:
@meingott77 And comparing SOT to Archage is like comparing a ferrari(SOT) to a stone wheel that never really rolls correctly(Archage).
ARchage was garbage...
The state SoT launched in just tells me the work ethic in a UK studio is not up to par with the world stage. 3 years they've been making this game. 4 item sets...
what an absolute joke.
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From your statement I assume you have experience in 3d modeling, texturing and game production pipeline, no?!
From my experience with 3d modeling and texturing alone, i can say it takes SOME time. for an amateure like me surely longer than a pro, but a creative process aint nothing you can or should force out in minimum time. It takes time, yeah even for pros, even for ppl who get paid. if you want a solid product, it sometimes takes time.you have a whole game ahead of you and only seen a microscopic part of it, yet you complain about the lack of additional ship customization. I also assume you already got that 70k cash hoarded in and now facing the choice on which stupid, superficial cosmetic you gonna spend it on. Take your time,... this game is gonna be around for while. maybe even safe those 70k gold for something else, maybe get all the new clothes first, or maybe the equipment first? I dont know, if I could play and had 70k i surely would not complain on the forums about this horrid scam this game is, since i propably would sail around sink other ships out of pure rage about the developer.
i am sorry if this sounds rude, i propably should take a break from the forums since I have no patience with my fellow community members who keep complaining about things they want. i assure you, its nothin personal. :)
Come on now, if you really know how it works, you should know that, once your mesh and UV Map is done (with the baked normal map and all), let's say, for the sail model, you just have to make variations of the color map on Photoshop or Substance Painter. A thumbnail for the shop, a name, a description, importing the BMP's to UDK, setting it to the corresponding blueprints, and you're all set.
Seriously, 8 is almost insulting when you see how plain and simple the color maps are (it's seriously one color and a logo). It's not even complex designs. It's super basic.You can justify a lot of things, but that ? If there is really only 8 variations (and only 4 at low level), it's seriously rude.
@meingott77 Alright well it was nice talking with you. You obviously have no interest in facts or even care to listen to other people. Enjoy the cheese to go with your whine.
@raggedynaphtali said in The prices:
@meingott77 Alright well it was nice talking with you. You obviously have no interest in facts or even care to listen to other people. Enjoy the cheese to go with your whine.
better than being satisfied by slop
@raggedynaphtali said in The prices:
@meingott77 And each of those grouping has like 4 variants, 1 set as basic, and then 3 more from rep, each has it is own look and coloration. That is not 4 sets that is 16. Learn to count...
And they are not armor sets they are customization on appearance. They have no stats and do not affect game play at all.
each set has 1 recolor that is unlocked through the rep grind.
There are only 4 sets to choose from. That's a product of laziness. They aren't exactly working with the hardest graphics to model for..
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