Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!

  • Void Presence
    Ship Mate

    @eph1zul said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @void-presence The only thing the game offers are cosmetics, so how do you then justify "cosmetic" microtransactions?

    That question makes no sense; I made myself pretty clear when I said micro-transactions in games should be cosmetic only, and indeed are in SoT.

    I think you mean that if all game items are cosmetic, how do I justify the micro-transactions being cosmetic also? It doesn't matter--the point is that anything you buy with real money should be purely cosmetic, doesn't matter what's offered in game normally.
    Buying cosmetic items is completely voluntary, there is nothing forcing you to buy in-game items at all.

  • FedOre
    Ship Mate

    What’s exactly is your problem with optional micro transactions? You dont have to get them and it shouldn’t effect you on any level if anyone else buys any. Aside from the sheer fact that game prices have barely gone up over the years but production costs are always increasing, some people enjoy showing support for an awesome game by buying something in-game, like a tip. It’s incredibly selfish and errogant to not even attempt to consider the real world benefits of micro transactions, especially if they are purely cosmetic.

  • Roymachinez
    Marauder

    @sshteeve I haven't tried it myself, but I read that game pass games don't share?

  • Grand Atrocity
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    Land lover

  • Sshteeve
    Captain
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    Boatswain

    @roymachinez They do! I'm playing State of Decay and Rise of the Tomb Raider at the minute. I would link to the official XBOX FAQ for it but can't remember if it is against the rules of the forum?!

    Basically you go into the Xbox store and find the gamepass page, ignore the request to register and look at "all games". From there you can download, then play games as you would normally with any other game sharing.

    The only thing that it doesn't do is automatically install things once the original account does so. So for me I will need to remember to install SoT next week on release day to play that night after work, unless the Beta will automatically upgrade to the full game client?

  • Roymachinez
    Marauder

    @sshteeve Gotcha, that's pretty cool. Also, I don't think the beta updates to the full game as I pre-ordered and it downloaded a separate item from the final beta client.

  • Sshteeve
    Captain
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    Boatswain

    @roymachinez Good to know! Will uninstall (sadly) the Beta client this evening... :'(

  • Roymachinez
    Marauder

    @sshteeve To be fair this item is called Sea of Thieves Pre-order and is only like 20mb in size, so the full game hasn't loaded yet. I wouldn't give up hope so quickly. I think it is worth waiting it out on slower connections.

  • Sshteeve
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    Boatswain

    @roymachinez i'm on 36mb/s at home so no issue with downloading/re-downloading a new client.
    I would assume that the Pre-order will be the final thing - Final Fantasy 15 did the same thing last year, then just patched on the days before.

  • Princeps Pirata
    Marauder

    @capt-baguette said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    Hello,

    Vanilla Wow was about 50$ + a monthly fee and offered months of very diverse content. Of course, Sea of Thieves and Wow are two VERY different games, but it'll be interesting for me to see how S.O.T fares against my personal reference in terms of: hype & content at launch, and more particularly short and mid-term updates.

    Cheers,

    Vanilla WoW sweet memories..

  • Diknak
    Commander
    Founder

    As long as it's not egregious and the developers respect the players, it's a non issue.

    Subscriptions don't work and they almost always force the game to go F2p or B2P anyway. When that transition happens it costs a lot of money and pulls away resources from doing other stuff, and it pigeonholes design. Subscription models don't work in 2018.

  • Jimb0 Hawkins
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    Founder

    You talk about things you totally haven’t understand. I feel bad for you man.
    I remember that microtransactions are not making you better than anyone, they are exclusively made for cosmetics and pets, but they are still objects you can buy with the game currency, not only with real cash.
    Next time think and read before writing. Rare always said that nobody is gonna be stronger than anyone and all items can be found while playing the game.

  • eatdamuffin
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    Cosmetic cash shop is fine to fund future updates and the servers the game runs on. Thankfully this game isn't P2P, we should all be grateful for that.

    Where I think they may run into problems with this funding model is that...

    1. The game's only means of progression is cosmetic by design. Balancing putting your artwork/additions in the cash shop vs giving cool looking cosmetics for players to earn playing is going to be a tricky needle to thread. It would've been nice to earn pets instead of it being a cash shop purchase.

    2. I think it's a big mistake to release it 3 months after launch from a financial standpoint. If they weren't ready to launch it at launch they should've delayed the game as much as it pains me to say. By three months in I'm guessing the player base will have dwindled quite a bit from launch. The game also would've benefited from the content they're adding in at the big 3 month update.

    Number two worries me the most because I don't want the scope of the game's future updates to get scaled back because it's not as financially lucrative as it was first thought to be when planning those updates.

  • Moulld
    Insider

    I do not see any problems with microtransactions in this game, provided that paid things will be unique in their kind and will not cause an imbalance in the mechanics of the game

  • Spectrazy666
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    @misterdoomed 1h !!! U sir have a great job ^^ 3h 4 me mean nothing got like 50h of fun and more only on beta

  • MisterDoomed

    @spectrazy666
    Ha ha well i dont know about great job but its a job nobody wants to do and very few possess the skills to do ( safely ) and even fewer will do without throwing a fit lol.

  • Pir4te Roberts
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    @killerdaftpunk said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    I keep seeing all this news about Sea of Thieves and it seems like an interesting title, but I'm just a single person giving my opinion. I am passing on Sea of Thieves for the sole reason of micro transactions. I understand a live game needing money for servers and such, but I would rather pay a 5$ subscription to play a game then be coerced into buying different game options even if they are only cosmetic. I feel micro transactions are just a pre cursor to something worse so hopefully other people feel the same and can show developers how we feel.

    Why do people take the trouble to register for a forum just to say they dont intend on playing? Just vote with your cash, dont buy it, move on. But in reality you fully intend on playing it, you just want your 10's in the limelight ☺

  • MisterDoomed

    @pir4te-roberts said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @killerdaftpunk said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    I keep seeing all this news about Sea of Thieves and it seems like an interesting title, but I'm just a single person giving my opinion. I am passing on Sea of Thieves for the sole reason of micro transactions. I understand a live game needing money for servers and such, but I would rather pay a 5$ subscription to play a game then be coerced into buying different game options even if they are only cosmetic. I feel micro transactions are just a pre cursor to something worse so hopefully other people feel the same and can show developers how we feel.

    Why do people take the trouble to register for a forum just to say they dont intend on playing? Just vote with your cash, dont buy it, move on. But in reality you fully intend on playing it, you just want your 10's in the limelight ☺

    Remember we are in a time when most people feel the need to post to Facebook or instigram or twitter EVERY single thing they eat,breath , or see and expect people to care....and unfortunately we live in a time where people DO care to the point of being jealous of others usually fake facebook lives lol.

  • LaughsManiacaly
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    Not to mention the currency used for micro transactions will be earnable in game.

    Can i ask where you got that info. Is there an official source and if so can you share it.

  • KgmsHylian
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    @misterdoomed said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @pir4te-roberts said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @killerdaftpunk said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    I keep seeing all this news about Sea of Thieves and it seems like an interesting title, but I'm just a single person giving my opinion. I am passing on Sea of Thieves for the sole reason of micro transactions. I understand a live game needing money for servers and such, but I would rather pay a 5$ subscription to play a game then be coerced into buying different game options even if they are only cosmetic. I feel micro transactions are just a pre cursor to something worse so hopefully other people feel the same and can show developers how we feel.

    Why do people take the trouble to register for a forum just to say they dont intend on playing? Just vote with your cash, dont buy it, move on. But in reality you fully intend on playing it, you just want your 10's in the limelight ☺

    Remember we are in a time when most people feel the need to post to Facebook or instigram or twitter EVERY single thing they eat,breath , or see and expect people to care....and unfortunately we live in a time where people DO care to the point of being jealous of others usually fake facebook lives lol.

    I believe it is normal to voice your concern of any kind. If you are interested to play but won't pay the price, that is also a feedback (if not to Rare, instead to Microsoft most likely) so they can reconsider this and offer better prices later on for a possible second wave of purchases. Feedback is a feedback still. :)

  • KigreTheViking
    Founder

    I somtimes pop my head in different stores and services, like the other day.
    I popped my head into a hair-cutting-saloon? Is that what its called!?

    Anyways, popped my head in there and shouted:

    "I DONT LIKE GETTING MY HAIR CUT!!! AND IM NOT GETTING MY HAIR CUT!!"

    Then i left.

  • MisterDoomed

    @kgmshylian said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @misterdoomed said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @pir4te-roberts said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @killerdaftpunk said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    I keep seeing all this news about Sea of Thieves and it seems like an interesting title, but I'm just a single person giving my opinion. I am passing on Sea of Thieves for the sole reason of micro transactions. I understand a live game needing money for servers and such, but I would rather pay a 5$ subscription to play a game then be coerced into buying different game options even if they are only cosmetic. I feel micro transactions are just a pre cursor to something worse so hopefully other people feel the same and can show developers how we feel.

    Why do people take the trouble to register for a forum just to say they dont intend on playing? Just vote with your cash, dont buy it, move on. But in reality you fully intend on playing it, you just want your 10's in the limelight ☺

    Remember we are in a time when most people feel the need to post to Facebook or instigram or twitter EVERY single thing they eat,breath , or see and expect people to care....and unfortunately we live in a time where people DO care to the point of being jealous of others usually fake facebook lives lol.

    I believe it is normal to voice your concern of any kind. If you are interested to play but won't pay the price, that is also a feedback (if not to Rare, instead to Microsoft most likely) so they can reconsider this and offer better prices later on for a possible second wave of purchases. Feedback is a feedback still. :)

    If you actually read who i was responding to then you will see my answer is correct and directed in the right direction.
    He ask why someone who ISNT going to play the game bothers making constant complaints. I answered his question.
    What you mentioned is irrelevant to his question.

  • LoboFH
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    @capt-neuromante dijo en Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @monkeyyak ha detto in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    Oh lord. Most of this thread is just fanboys defending microtransactions. It's pathetic to read.

    Are you serious? THIS types of microtransactions are the right way to makes a game like SoT. This is not a Tomb Raider or A Last of Us where you finish the game and it's over. SoT is a MMO like. This is why games like League of Legends can be continuously supported. If you can't (or won't) understand that, than play other games.

    Dude, LoL is Free2Play, SoT is 70 whopping euros.

    It's reasonable when a Free2Play game sells cosmetics to fund the development, it's not the case here.

  • KgmsHylian
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    @misterdoomed said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @kgmshylian said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @misterdoomed said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @pir4te-roberts said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @killerdaftpunk said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    I keep seeing all this news about Sea of Thieves and it seems like an interesting title, but I'm just a single person giving my opinion. I am passing on Sea of Thieves for the sole reason of micro transactions. I understand a live game needing money for servers and such, but I would rather pay a 5$ subscription to play a game then be coerced into buying different game options even if they are only cosmetic. I feel micro transactions are just a pre cursor to something worse so hopefully other people feel the same and can show developers how we feel.

    Why do people take the trouble to register for a forum just to say they dont intend on playing? Just vote with your cash, dont buy it, move on. But in reality you fully intend on playing it, you just want your 10's in the limelight ☺

    Remember we are in a time when most people feel the need to post to Facebook or instigram or twitter EVERY single thing they eat,breath , or see and expect people to care....and unfortunately we live in a time where people DO care to the point of being jealous of others usually fake facebook lives lol.

    I believe it is normal to voice your concern of any kind. If you are interested to play but won't pay the price, that is also a feedback (if not to Rare, instead to Microsoft most likely) so they can reconsider this and offer better prices later on for a possible second wave of purchases. Feedback is a feedback still. :)

    If you actually read who i was responding to then you will see my answer is correct and directed in the right direction.
    He ask why someone who ISNT going to play the game bothers making constant complaints. I answered his question.
    What you mentioned is irrelevant to his question.

    Interesting point of view, but I think my note was relevant to both of your comments, hence the reason I wrote it. Well excuse me for being irrelevant to you. :)

    (Also, don't see where was invidual making "constant" complains mentioned. Only see people in general.)

  • MisterDoomed

    @kgmshylian said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @misterdoomed said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @kgmshylian said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @misterdoomed said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @pir4te-roberts said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    @killerdaftpunk said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    I keep seeing all this news about Sea of Thieves and it seems like an interesting title, but I'm just a single person giving my opinion. I am passing on Sea of Thieves for the sole reason of micro transactions. I understand a live game needing money for servers and such, but I would rather pay a 5$ subscription to play a game then be coerced into buying different game options even if they are only cosmetic. I feel micro transactions are just a pre cursor to something worse so hopefully other people feel the same and can show developers how we feel.

    Why do people take the trouble to register for a forum just to say they dont intend on playing? Just vote with your cash, dont buy it, move on. But in reality you fully intend on playing it, you just want your 10's in the limelight ☺

    Remember we are in a time when most people feel the need to post to Facebook or instigram or twitter EVERY single thing they eat,breath , or see and expect people to care....and unfortunately we live in a time where people DO care to the point of being jealous of others usually fake facebook lives lol.

    I believe it is normal to voice your concern of any kind. If you are interested to play but won't pay the price, that is also a feedback (if not to Rare, instead to Microsoft most likely) so they can reconsider this and offer better prices later on for a possible second wave of purchases. Feedback is a feedback still. :)

    If you actually read who i was responding to then you will see my answer is correct and directed in the right direction.
    He ask why someone who ISNT going to play the game bothers making constant complaints. I answered his question.
    What you mentioned is irrelevant to his question.

    Interesting point of view, but I think my note was relevant to both of your comments, hence the reason I wrote it. Well excuse me for being irrelevant to you. :)

    Ha ha ha well since you are irrelevant to me there is no need to be excused lol.
    +1 for your good sense of humor.

  • Tre Oni
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    L***O!

    "I'd rather pay monthly to not have optional, useless microtransactions, and in the end end up paying way more, even if I'm not playing fully that month"

    Sit down.

  • Captain Aircool

    I will not buy this game as it is incompatible with my Star Sign!

  • BritishTwin One
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    Founder

    Oh my god. You're so powerful and inspiring. Rebeling against compaines with micro transactions. No stop. This will not effect the gamein anyway, it will not force you to get cosmetics since they will have them in the game. They also said you can earn the paid currency (used for microtranstions) in game.

  • DeviLettuce
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    So are you giving up gaming all together? There aren't many games that don't have microtransactions, best thing for you to do is trade in your system and buy some board games.

  • BritishTwin One
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    Founder

    @aliendude7050 The witcher 3 doesn't have any microtransactions. They have free content, 16 pieces of it actually. And then 2 dlcs. The diffirence between dlc and microtransactions are that microtransactions are typically in game stuff and don't expand anything or make the game bigger. Dlcs give you expansive storys and worlds which are not in game items, they are expansions of the game unless they're 3 hours long with a couple weapons and a very short world(Destiny 2).

  • Shoff7321
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    @killerdaftpunk said in Refuse to buy a $60 game with micro transactions!:

    I keep seeing all this news about Sea of Thieves and it seems like an interesting title, but I'm just a single person giving my opinion. I am passing on Sea of Thieves for the sole reason of micro transactions. I understand a live game needing money for servers and such, but I would rather pay a 5$ subscription to play a game then be coerced into buying different game options even if they are only cosmetic. I feel micro transactions are just a pre cursor to something worse so hopefully other people feel the same and can show developers how we feel.

    This is pretty reasonable. I used to feel the same way, but eventually I came to the conclusion that I would be willing to trade allowing players to pay for items that are already available to everyone and offer no advantage for the hope of having several years of free content and a growing population.

  • Dragoonsushi
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    You could always play it on Game Pass!

  • BigPup987112374

    Judging from your post it sounds like you haven't even had a chance to play the game yet, which is a shame as your opinion would likely be different (depending on what you like to play of course). But if you're not buying this game solely because of the non advantageous microtransactions it's probably fair to say it isn't for you.

  • VirginiaUlme20

    @killerdaftpunk i hope enough people didnt buy it.. bc as of now its not worth it

  • born2beslicker
    Sailor

    You’d rather pay a subscription to a game you already paid for than completely optional payments that you can ignore and get free game updates for nothing?

    That’s stupid as all hell. If you feel obligated to pay for microtransactions because they exist, you have problems.

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