Skeleton Fort raids reward campers

@rhblank The chest is just one single item in the room. We just recently did the Skeleton Fort. The stronghold chest gave us 1,800 and the rest of the trinkets and chests gave use around 1,500 gold. If you want to work together with other teams offer them the Stronghold chest and take all the remaining items. I'm sure they will agree with that trade as the chest looks really cool.

@getschmiton When this happens to you, I doubt you’ll think of it as a “non-issue.”

@quietrobot This isn’t really a luxury two people can afford while fighting off a wave of skeletons. Campers will always have the adavantage in this situation.

@pigeonman-beam said in Skeleton Fort raids reward campers:

@rhblank I'm sure they will agree with that trade as the chest looks really cool.

Three ships came by while we were doing the raid. When I requested assistance, they would laugh and fire on our ship. You have far too much faith in this playerbase’s agreeability.

I was disappointed (but not surprised) to find out that every fort encounter in the public build was just constant PvP. What's even more irritating is regardless of how many times you sink an enemy ship, they'll always just sail right back up to you a few minutes later and repeat the cycle.

I'd also argue that the quantity of loot should be increased.

1. Rare mentioned this sort of could happen, and that they were fine with it. You have to be better than your enemy at killing or negotiating, or you will be killed.
2. There is a limited amount of loot, so you have to negotiate or "negotiate" who gets what. This is an intentional attribute of the forts.
3. I highly doubt that the other crew was camping. The cloud doesn't dissipate until the boss is defeated, so they were probably heading your way anyway. This was predicted by Rare and an intentional choice.

This is a non-issue, and Rare's fine with piracy happening in the game about pirates. This game isn't all about being mean, so of course I've had multiple friendly encounters at forts, and have even split the loot without a fight. Though I do believe the amount of loot should be increased, as it would increase tensions between allied crews and be more rewarding for the time put into them. There would be much, much more at stake.

@despairsauce It’s not “doom and gloom.” The game isn’t sloop-friendly, and that’s kind of a major issue.

@rhblank said in Skeleton Fort raids reward campers:

My crewmate and I, aboard a two-man sloop, managed to beat the skeleton fort raid, but upon exiting the vault with the raid chest, we were killed by two players who’d been just outside the island (unknown to us, of course, because we were fighting waves of skeletons).

It took us a little over an hour to complete the raid – while taking intermittent breaks to fend off other crews who were trying sink us – and it turned out to be a massive waste of time because the raid system is terribly broken in two major ways:

1. It rewards crews who camp outside/on the island. We spent over an hour killing hordes of skeletons and dying dozens of times, and we’re ultimately punished for it. How is that fun? Why would anyone want to come back to a game that rewards campers?

2. There’s only one raid chest. Why the hell would you ally yourself with another team if you’re both going to end up fighting over one chest? The system is inherently unstable.

I’m perfectly fine with the open-seas pirating where simple quest-related chests are on the line, but the raids should be an exception to that kind of gameplay. You’re going to lose a lot of players by wasting their time over and over again.

Since the game mechanic allows people to do it you just have to accept it, the same as you do spawn camping griefers.

@rhblank "YOUR COMMENT" "There’s only one raid chest. Why the hell would you ally yourself with another team if you’re both going to end up fighting over one chest? The system is inherently unstable."

My reply to you was that their is only one chest, so teaming wont work that is false all the items in the room along with the chest equal just as much. "Don't twist peoples words to say that people will want to team just for the fact."

I personally do the same If players comes I kill them, I find it quiet funny people run up to me saying we need to work together. When I can Solo it pretty easy, however if a smaller squad "Most likely one person so we don't get stabbed in the back" asked to have item if he helped and I was in crew of four I would have no problem giving him a trinket or two. It's less about trusting the player base and more about trusting in your crew mates if this person decides he wants the chest and backstabs us can we take him out, or will we fail and give him the chest. I'm pretty confident I can take a solo pretty easy so he doesn't scare me if he was to stab me in the back. He wouldn't get far.

@copenhoggin You sir are a pirate. I like your style, but that's the whole point of the game everyone can pick or choose their play style. It's all about having fun and living "Your so called pirate life"