cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?

I actually don't mind if freshly spawned ships that have not been touched by their Captain are protected and unsinkable. To sink their ship as soon as they load in game would imo be considered griefing.

@timidobserver it has been done to me and when i mentioned it was told get gud so guess what do it back to them

@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

I actually don't mind if freshly spawned ships that have not been touched by their Captain are protected and unsinkable. To sink their ship as soon as they load in game would imo be considered griefing.

i think they should be to be honest, first time you load in you should be untouchable until you raise the anchor or i can see trying to change your ships looks being a pain in the a*s lol

@timidobserver to be fair we didnt realise it had just spawned in as

A:we come around from the oposite side of the island
B:you dont just see ships suddenly spawn there,
C:we only assumed it had spawned as it was perfetctly dock like they are when you just start the game

@timidobserver said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

@ragemonsteruk I just read your user name. I understand now. Carry on.

LOL

Sorry...it was funny. Heh.

@timidobserver to be fair he had plenty of time to move it, he was parked in our spot lol

The classic (& much hated) noob tactic of “spawn r**e” has been eradicated as best as possible from all games released in the last few years & I personally hope it continues to be as difficult as possible.

It spoils any game by annoying people (games are to relax, escape & have fun) & it puts off any new players when they are just contstantky destroyed by more advanced players.

Let’s keep Sea Of Thieves as much fun & community focused as possible guys.

It will make for a much more enjoyable game for everyone in the long run. :-)

@daddy-benny we didnt know he just started the game to be fair until he said he just started it lol, not like the sloop suddenly appeared in front of us,

we came from back of the island so if the game spawned him right as we approached thats on the game not us and secondly with the time it took us to get to the island he had ample timed to set sail before we got there if it spawned him there earlier

@ragemonsteruk - Yeah that’s fair doos. :-)

I wasn’t saying you were sat waiting to spawn r**e, I just wanted to say that I am glad you can’t actually do it. 👍🏻

@daddy-benny if they have put that in for the first time you start game then thats awesome imo, means people will be able to actually visit shipwright and change stuff, will be annoying if you are trying to change your ships look while constantly being killed lol

@ragemonsteruk said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

@timidobserver it has been done to me and when i mentioned it was told get gud so guess what do it back to them

"Get gud" rhetoric is not tolerated and deckhands have been making an effort to stop that kind of speech.

@jinxybinx glad to see it

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@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

I actually don't mind if freshly spawned ships that have not been touched by their Captain are protected and unsinkable. To sink their ship as soon as they load in game would imo be considered griefing.

Not if youve just sailed to that outpost to sell something

I am not talking about sinking a rival ship who has already initiated play out in the waters, I am talking about a person who just spawned in the tavern and hasn't reached their boat yet. To sink a ship of someone who just loaded in would be griefing. Just like stealing their boat and leaving them stranded. You can usually tell it is a starting player because the boat is perfectly docked in a specific position.

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@uvg-reign said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

I actually don't mind if freshly spawned ships that have not been touched by their Captain are protected and unsinkable. To sink their ship as soon as they load in game would imo be considered griefing.

Not if youve just sailed to that outpost to sell something

I am not talking about sinking a rival ship who has already initiated play out in the waters, I am talking about a person who just spawned in the tavern and hasn't reached their boat yet. To sink a ship of someone who just loaded in would be griefing. Just like stealing their boat and leaving them stranded. You can usually tell it is a starting player because the boat is perfectly docked in a specific position.

you can not tell me that in a game about piracy, stealing a ship is griefing

thats literally one of the main things pirates did

steal ships

I can and I will tell you stealing a ship from someone who just loaded into the game is griefing.

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@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

@uvg-reign said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

I actually don't mind if freshly spawned ships that have not been touched by their Captain are protected and unsinkable. To sink their ship as soon as they load in game would imo be considered griefing.

Not if youve just sailed to that outpost to sell something

I am not talking about sinking a rival ship who has already initiated play out in the waters, I am talking about a person who just spawned in the tavern and hasn't reached their boat yet. To sink a ship of someone who just loaded in would be griefing. Just like stealing their boat and leaving them stranded. You can usually tell it is a starting player because the boat is perfectly docked in a specific position.

you can not tell me that in a game about piracy, stealing a ship is griefing

thats literally one of the main things pirates did

steal ships

I can and I will tell you stealing a ship from someone who just loaded into the game is griefing.

but how are you supposed to know they just loaded in, hows it any different then stealing the ship of any other player while they're out digging treasure or turning in loot

its a gameplay mechanic

they can always take a mermaid and reclaim their ship or even scuttle it

It is fairly easy to tell because of the way it is docked at an outpost. It is empty, has lanterns on, and perfectly docked.

@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

I actually don't mind if freshly spawned ships that have not been touched by their Captain are protected and unsinkable. To sink their ship as soon as they load in game would imo be considered griefing.

I also think that doing so would be against the Code.

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@uvg-reign said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

I actually don't mind if freshly spawned ships that have not been touched by their Captain are protected and unsinkable. To sink their ship as soon as they load in game would imo be considered griefing.

Not if youve just sailed to that outpost to sell something

I am not talking about sinking a rival ship who has already initiated play out in the waters, I am talking about a person who just spawned in the tavern and hasn't reached their boat yet. To sink a ship of someone who just loaded in would be griefing. Just like stealing their boat and leaving them stranded. You can usually tell it is a starting player because the boat is perfectly docked in a specific position.

you can not tell me that in a game about piracy, stealing a ship is griefing

thats literally one of the main things pirates did

steal ships

I can and I will tell you stealing a ship from someone who just loaded into the game is griefing.

but how are you supposed to know they just loaded in, hows it any different then stealing the ship of any other player while they're out digging treasure or turning in loot

its a gameplay mechanic

they can always take a mermaid and reclaim their ship or even scuttle it

It is fairly easy to tell because of the way it is docked at an outpost. It is empty, has lanterns on, and perfectly docked.

but how is it any different than if was other players off their ship and not paying attention to it

if they want it back they have options

Because the only reason to take or sink an empty ship with no one on it is to give them a bad time and grief. No matter how you try to slice it there is no justification for doing this other than to grief another player.

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@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

@splatulated said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

@splatulated said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

@uvg-reign said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

I actually don't mind if freshly spawned ships that have not been touched by their Captain are protected and unsinkable. To sink their ship as soon as they load in game would imo be considered griefing.

Not if youve just sailed to that outpost to sell something

I am not talking about sinking a rival ship who has already initiated play out in the waters, I am talking about a person who just spawned in the tavern and hasn't reached their boat yet. To sink a ship of someone who just loaded in would be griefing. Just like stealing their boat and leaving them stranded. You can usually tell it is a starting player because the boat is perfectly docked in a specific position.

you can not tell me that in a game about piracy, stealing a ship is griefing

thats literally one of the main things pirates did

steal ships

I can and I will tell you stealing a ship from someone who just loaded into the game is griefing.

but how are you supposed to know they just loaded in, hows it any different then stealing the ship of any other player while they're out digging treasure or turning in loot

its a gameplay mechanic

they can always take a mermaid and reclaim their ship or even scuttle it

It is fairly easy to tell because of the way it is docked at an outpost. It is empty, has lanterns on, and perfectly docked.

but how is it any different than if was other players off their ship and not paying attention to it

if they want it back they have options

Because the only reason to take or sink an empty ship with no one on it is to give them a bad time and grief. No matter how you try to slice it there is no justification for doing this other than to grief another player.

I would say that this won't always apply.

Example, let's say you're on a Sloop and a crew on a Galleon has been pummeling you a lot (by chance). You happen to come across their ship docked at an island, and possibly unmanned as all are on the island doing whatever.. you could shell their ship and sink it or hop on, raise anchor, let it go into the horizon (although they could merman back)... but in a situation of you identifying and getting back at someone best you can considering the circumstance I think would be ok.

But, to purposely go after someones ship that just loaded in (if you are aware of this being the case) is just awful. If you are unaware, then that's that... but that's likely why the ship is protected, to give the person logging in some kind of chance.

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@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

I actually don't mind if freshly spawned ships that have not been touched by their Captain are protected and unsinkable. To sink their ship as soon as they load in game would imo be considered griefing.

Not if youve just sailed to that outpost to sell something

I am not talking about sinking a rival ship who has already initiated play out in the waters, I am talking about a person who just spawned in the tavern and hasn't reached their boat yet. To sink a ship of someone who just loaded in would be griefing. Just like stealing their boat and leaving them stranded. You can usually tell it is a starting player because the boat is perfectly docked in a specific position.

you can not tell me that in a game about piracy, stealing a ship is griefing

thats literally one of the main things pirates did

steal ships

I can and I will tell you stealing a ship from someone who just loaded into the game is griefing.

but how are you supposed to know they just loaded in, hows it any different then stealing the ship of any other player while they're out digging treasure or turning in loot

its a gameplay mechanic

they can always take a mermaid and reclaim their ship or even scuttle it

It is fairly easy to tell because of the way it is docked at an outpost. It is empty, has lanterns on, and perfectly docked.

but how is it any different than if was other players off their ship and not paying attention to it

if they want it back they have options

Because the only reason to take or sink an empty ship with no one on it is to give them a bad time and grief. No matter how you try to slice it there is no justification for doing this other than to grief another player.

I would say that this won't always apply.

Example, let's say you're on a Sloop and a crew on a Galleon has been pummeling you a lot (by chance). You happen to come across their ship docked at an island, and possibly unmanned as all are on the island doing whatever.. you could shell their ship and sink it or hop on, raise anchor, let it go into the horizon (although they could merman back)... but in a situation of you identifying and getting back at someone best you can considering the circumstance I think would be ok.

But, to purposely go after someones ship that just loaded in (if you are aware of this being the case) is just awful. If you are unaware, then that's that... but that's likely why the ship is protected, to give the person logging in some kind of chance.

I don't even think that reasoning is okay. If someone has issues with another ship, deal with it in open waters, not when their ship is empty and docked. That to me just seems petty.

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@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

I actually don't mind if freshly spawned ships that have not been touched by their Captain are protected and unsinkable. To sink their ship as soon as they load in game would imo be considered griefing.

Not if youve just sailed to that outpost to sell something

I am not talking about sinking a rival ship who has already initiated play out in the waters, I am talking about a person who just spawned in the tavern and hasn't reached their boat yet. To sink a ship of someone who just loaded in would be griefing. Just like stealing their boat and leaving them stranded. You can usually tell it is a starting player because the boat is perfectly docked in a specific position.

you can not tell me that in a game about piracy, stealing a ship is griefing

thats literally one of the main things pirates did

steal ships

I can and I will tell you stealing a ship from someone who just loaded into the game is griefing.

but how are you supposed to know they just loaded in, hows it any different then stealing the ship of any other player while they're out digging treasure or turning in loot

its a gameplay mechanic

they can always take a mermaid and reclaim their ship or even scuttle it

It is fairly easy to tell because of the way it is docked at an outpost. It is empty, has lanterns on, and perfectly docked.

but how is it any different than if was other players off their ship and not paying attention to it

if they want it back they have options

Because the only reason to take or sink an empty ship with no one on it is to give them a bad time and grief. No matter how you try to slice it there is no justification for doing this other than to grief another player.

I would say that this won't always apply.

Example, let's say you're on a Sloop and a crew on a Galleon has been pummeling you a lot (by chance). You happen to come across their ship docked at an island, and possibly unmanned as all are on the island doing whatever.. you could shell their ship and sink it or hop on, raise anchor, let it go into the horizon (although they could merman back)... but in a situation of you identifying and getting back at someone best you can considering the circumstance I think would be ok.

But, to purposely go after someones ship that just loaded in (if you are aware of this being the case) is just awful. If you are unaware, then that's that... but that's likely why the ship is protected, to give the person logging in some kind of chance.

I don't even think that reasoning is okay. If someone has issues with another ship, deal with it in open waters, not when their ship is empty and docked. That to me just seems petty.

But again, a Sloop is unlikely to be able to take out a Galleon - just statistics. There are some ways it can be done is more skill of the seas than combat... but, if you have a crew of four and been rampaging the seas, you'd best have a lookout remain on ship in-case someone tries to get back at you.

Is it the honorable way to get even? No, not necessarily. But, I don't see anything wrong with doing so. Do you think it would be ok to board someone's ship while they're on the island and take their treasure/supplies?

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@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

I actually don't mind if freshly spawned ships that have not been touched by their Captain are protected and unsinkable. To sink their ship as soon as they load in game would imo be considered griefing.

Not if youve just sailed to that outpost to sell something

I am not talking about sinking a rival ship who has already initiated play out in the waters, I am talking about a person who just spawned in the tavern and hasn't reached their boat yet. To sink a ship of someone who just loaded in would be griefing. Just like stealing their boat and leaving them stranded. You can usually tell it is a starting player because the boat is perfectly docked in a specific position.

you can not tell me that in a game about piracy, stealing a ship is griefing

thats literally one of the main things pirates did

steal ships

I can and I will tell you stealing a ship from someone who just loaded into the game is griefing.

but how are you supposed to know they just loaded in, hows it any different then stealing the ship of any other player while they're out digging treasure or turning in loot

its a gameplay mechanic

they can always take a mermaid and reclaim their ship or even scuttle it

It is fairly easy to tell because of the way it is docked at an outpost. It is empty, has lanterns on, and perfectly docked.

but how is it any different than if was other players off their ship and not paying attention to it

if they want it back they have options

Because the only reason to take or sink an empty ship with no one on it is to give them a bad time and grief. No matter how you try to slice it there is no justification for doing this other than to grief another player.

I would say that this won't always apply.

Example, let's say you're on a Sloop and a crew on a Galleon has been pummeling you a lot (by chance). You happen to come across their ship docked at an island, and possibly unmanned as all are on the island doing whatever.. you could shell their ship and sink it or hop on, raise anchor, let it go into the horizon (although they could merman back)... but in a situation of you identifying and getting back at someone best you can considering the circumstance I think would be ok.

But, to purposely go after someones ship that just loaded in (if you are aware of this being the case) is just awful. If you are unaware, then that's that... but that's likely why the ship is protected, to give the person logging in some kind of chance.

I don't even think that reasoning is okay. If someone has issues with another ship, deal with it in open waters, not when their ship is empty and docked. That to me just seems petty.

But again, a Sloop is unlikely to be able to take out a Galleon - just statistics. There are some ways it can be done is more skill of the seas than combat... but, if you have a crew of four and been rampaging the seas, you'd best have a lookout remain on ship in-case someone tries to get back at you.

Is it the honorable way to get even? No, not necessarily. But, I don't see anything wrong with doing so. Do you think it would be ok to board someone's ship while they're on the island and take their treasure/supplies?

If they have treasure left unattended then yes by all means board and steal. That has an actual reason/reward ie gold. The other scenarios doesn't have any benefit other than personal pride or wanting to feel superior over someone else.

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@jinxybinx said in cant sink newly spawned ships at outposts?:

I actually don't mind if freshly spawned ships that have not been touched by their Captain are protected and unsinkable. To sink their ship as soon as they load in game would imo be considered griefing.

Not if youve just sailed to that outpost to sell something

I am not talking about sinking a rival ship who has already initiated play out in the waters, I am talking about a person who just spawned in the tavern and hasn't reached their boat yet. To sink a ship of someone who just loaded in would be griefing. Just like stealing their boat and leaving them stranded. You can usually tell it is a starting player because the boat is perfectly docked in a specific position.

you can not tell me that in a game about piracy, stealing a ship is griefing

thats literally one of the main things pirates did

steal ships

I can and I will tell you stealing a ship from someone who just loaded into the game is griefing.

but how are you supposed to know they just loaded in, hows it any different then stealing the ship of any other player while they're out digging treasure or turning in loot

its a gameplay mechanic

they can always take a mermaid and reclaim their ship or even scuttle it

It is fairly easy to tell because of the way it is docked at an outpost. It is empty, has lanterns on, and perfectly docked.

but how is it any different than if was other players off their ship and not paying attention to it

if they want it back they have options

Because the only reason to take or sink an empty ship with no one on it is to give them a bad time and grief. No matter how you try to slice it there is no justification for doing this other than to grief another player.

I would say that this won't always apply.

Example, let's say you're on a Sloop and a crew on a Galleon has been pummeling you a lot (by chance). You happen to come across their ship docked at an island, and possibly unmanned as all are on the island doing whatever.. you could shell their ship and sink it or hop on, raise anchor, let it go into the horizon (although they could merman back)... but in a situation of you identifying and getting back at someone best you can considering the circumstance I think would be ok.

But, to purposely go after someones ship that just loaded in (if you are aware of this being the case) is just awful. If you are unaware, then that's that... but that's likely why the ship is protected, to give the person logging in some kind of chance.

I don't even think that reasoning is okay. If someone has issues with another ship, deal with it in open waters, not when their ship is empty and docked. That to me just seems petty.

But again, a Sloop is unlikely to be able to take out a Galleon - just statistics. There are some ways it can be done is more skill of the seas than combat... but, if you have a crew of four and been rampaging the seas, you'd best have a lookout remain on ship in-case someone tries to get back at you.

Is it the honorable way to get even? No, not necessarily. But, I don't see anything wrong with doing so. Do you think it would be ok to board someone's ship while they're on the island and take their treasure/supplies?

If they have treasure left unattended then yes by all means board and steal. That has an actual reason/reward ie gold. The other scenarios doesn't have any benefit other than personal pride or wanting to feel superior over someone else.

I can understand your point overall, I just don't see anything wrong with it if it's a retaliation. Sure, it's a bit cowardly, but sometimes that's the route you have to take and it can help you at times, and maybe others... sometimes people are bullies until something affects them.

And since we have no losses overall from the sinking of a ship, they're only setback having to scuttle/reset (have not yet done, usually just quit out once I've lost a ship or marooned on the island for a bit looking to attempt to steal a ship lol - not yet successful)

@thepraesidium I also want to add my partner and I exclusively use sloops together and have successfully sunk a good number of galleons.

if i see a ship thats docked but has no chests then im sure as hell going to take supplies from it.

i cant even believe this thread reach 30+ posts lol, so i guess everytime i go to an outpost and see another ship i have to assume they are always friendly? i have been sunk many times while at outposts they are not safe zones.

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if i see a ship thats docked but has no chests then im sure as hell going to take supplies from it.

i cant even believe this thread reach 30+ posts lol, so i guess everytime i go to an outpost and see another ship i have to assume they are always friendly? i have been sunk many times while at outposts they are not safe zones.

Stealing supplies is also fine. Sinking a freshly spawned boat is not.