Make SoT single player only

  • Hotel Actual
    Founder

    At the moment we have almost every camp of players asking for their own servers, so why not make everyone happy and turn SoT into a single player only game?

    • PVE players don't want to play with PVP players

    • Solo players don't want to play with crews

    • PVP players don't want safe zones but PVE players want safe zone out posts or "pacifist mode" functions

    • some Xbox players don't want to play with PC players

    At the moment we aren't even talking about splitting the community. We are talking about having the community hung drawn and quartered.

    Dividing everyone into servers: PVP, PVE, Solo, Crew, All sizes, No Cross play, Cross play is just ridiculous.

    If you don't like PVP what is the point in having canons, or cannon balls or planks for repairs.

    If you don't like facing crews as a solo player, why are you playing the hardest difficulty in the game and complaining it's hard?

    If you're on Xbox and don't like cross play why wouldn't you want SoT to have the best chance it can get at sustaining its player base long term.

    Think we all need to just buck up and deal with the experience rare have crafted. It's a harsh reality, the game is about a sea of thieves after all. If we can't accept the PVP elements, or the fact some players WILLINGLY choose solo despite being explicitly warned the sloop is slower and it's harder to travel, then put everyone in a single player lobby with the option to invite friends only.

    Otherwise grab your grog and hold onto your butts.

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  • Cable0312

    lol I will show the PVE people de whey... they du knot know de wheh.
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  • Eclipse7563
    Marauder
    Founder

    You are right! Let's also rename the game Sea of No Bodies Because you won't even have pirate battles.

    Solo players, who don't like PVP aren't gonna be playing pirate games. Sorry, wrong game. Unless you get Rare to change their entire game to suit your likings it is not gonna happen. Sorry :/.

    Also why not play Solo (which you can) and avoid ships. And I don't get why XBOX players won't want to play with PC players. In fact the oppposite some people have friends on XBOX but they have an XBOX so they play on PC.

    I also think making Sea of Thieves. A game advertised as a new type of multiplayer. Won't be made a single player.

    Also don't assume that will make everyone happy, cause I know I like multiplayer so do all the pirates I random queued with.

    ~ A Multiplayer Pirate Arrr!

  • MisterDoomed

    Any pvp open world game ive ever played has the exact same kinda people crying about the exact same things being said about SoT. The funny thing is that some games listened to the cries and started changing the game to make the game easier THEN the same players complaining before simply found a new thing to cry about. After enough changed to carebear up the game pvp players quit then the pve cryhards get bored and are still mad about something and quit and the game dies.
    Hope the devs at least try and stick with the original plan for this game for awhile.

  • KattTruewalker
    Vanguard
    Insider
    Founder
    Deckhand

    @misterdoomed @Hotel-Actual

    Ok, so I've been watching one of the very first videos where Joe and Gregg discuss what Sea of Thieves actually is, as a game, you might find it interesting too.

    Sea of Thieves is a Shared World Adventure Game.

    https://youtu.be/bJ25OF7f5us?list=PL_nMBAOk-hFrtzlHK4mr8Oi4aPXUsGcbM

  • Hotel Actual
    Founder

    @itoxic9 said in Make SoT single player only:

    You are right! Let's also rename the game Sea of No Bodies Because you won't even have pirate battles.

    Solo players, who don't like PVP aren't gonna be playing pirate games. Sorry, wrong game. Unless you get Rare to change their entire game to suit your likings it is not gonna happen. Sorry :/.

    Also why not play Solo (which you can) and avoid ships. And I don't get why XBOX players won't want to play with PC players. In fact the oppposite some people have friends on XBOX but they have an XBOX so they play on PC.

    I also think making Sea of Thieves. A game advertised as a new type of multiplayer. Won't be made a single player.

    Also don't assume that will make everyone happy, cause I know I like multiplayer so do all the pirates I random queued with.

    ~ A Multiplayer Pirate Arrr!

    I think you've COMPLETELY missed the point. Please re-read as you've obviously just read the title and replied.

  • Hotel Actual
    Founder

    @katttruewalker said in Make SoT single player only:

    @misterdoomed @Hotel-Actual

    Ok, so I've been watching one of the very first videos where Joe and Gregg discuss what Sea of Thieves actually is, as a game, you might find it interesting too.

    Sea of Thieves is a Shared World Adventure Game.

    https://youtu.be/bJ25OF7f5us?list=PL_nMBAOk-hFrtzlHK4mr8Oi4aPXUsGcbM

    I'll definitely give that a watch, however the experience can't be shared if we are all diced up into different servers with everyone's specific and individual tastes catered for. I think there's just some people attracted to the allure of SoT which is great, but don't actually like what it's about and the parts it's made up of to create the whole experience. How can that be rectified?

  • Lazzaroth
    Castaway

    @cable0312 isn't that what the 60 bucks is for. I mean it ain't for the graphics, it ain't for the music score, it ain't for the 1000 plus hours of voice recordings, it ain't for some vast open world like no man's sky. Nobody plays a PvE game after 2-3 months, they beat it and on to the next one. The vast majority of People still play PvP games years after they come out, GTA 5, BF1, COD, and the list goes on.

  • Cable0312

    Hahahaha sure my man.

  • Eclipse7563
    Marauder
    Founder

    @hotel-actual No, I didn't. I just think what you are suggesting is absolutely stupid.

  • Hotel Actual
    Founder

    @itoxic9 said in Make SoT single player only:

    @hotel-actual No, I didn't. I just think what you are suggesting is absolutely stupid.

    That's because it's sarcasm and you've definitely missed the point. I assume you're not a native English speaker so I'll let you off.

  • Eclipse7563
    Marauder
    Founder

    @hotel-actual No man. Please explain dis anglish lanuega plz man i now no anglish show me da way!

    Da way of the one r****d who thought singleplayer in a multiplayer game was a good idea. PERIOD. STOP ARGUING, CAUSE IT NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

    There is an uninstall button somewhere. Find it, I am sure it will be of good use to you and only you.

  • Hotel Actual
    Founder

    The single player comment was followed by the reason for the statement being everyone being unhappy with a shared experience and wanting their own servers.

    Read the post.

    Not replying to you anymore as you're failing to grasp the point of the post.

    Thanks for taking the time to reply i appreciate the points in your first post.

  • GotGabriele
    Captain
    Insider
    Founder

    Yep. Everybody complaining about something different. Can't make everyone happy.

  • ssjvegeta420

    Griefers dont want safe zones... this isnt a pure pvp game. The people who like arc are afraid of safezones.... i think there should be a few to prevent greifing from ruining the game.... adding ai would allow people to play solo.. .

  • Kuerbisfuerst

    @hotel-actual Don't bother with iToxic9 , I guess his name tells you everything you need to know about him.

  • Hotel Actual
    Founder

    @ssjvegeta420 said in Make SoT single player only:

    Griefers dont want safe zones... this isnt a pure pvp game. The people who like arc are afraid of safezones.... i think there should be a few to prevent greifing from ruining the game.... adding ai would allow people to play solo.. .

    I don't agree with safe zone but id like to see the inclusion of a pirate city social hub which acts as a no PVP zone. Additionally it would be nice if the servers allowed around 100 players, PVE types could join a "merchant navy" clan of sorts and can be protected by the different fadtions. Say it's like an RP clan system, one play makes a clan for PVE protection called merchant navy, one player makes a clan called Black flag for pirates etc that way people would be brought together through their interests and have protection etc and encourage world building and rp

  • MightyPhase

    people with opinions like this should just quit the game , this is not a game for cowards matey , its for pirates , the stronger survive and the weaker sink , deal with it , or quit.

  • Hotel Actual
    Founder

    @mightyphase said in Make SoT single player only:

    people with opinions like this should just quit the game , this is not a game for cowards matey , its for pirates , the stronger survive and the weaker sink , deal with it , or quit.

    Read the post before replying not just the title.

  • Sp1cyBBQ
    Captain
    Founder

    honestly, there should be a pve mode in this game not everyone wants to play pvp and we shouldn't condemn those who don't that's very small minded and shows a real lack of maturity.

    at the very least single player ships should not be in the same lobby as multi-player ships.

  • MightyPhase

    @hotel-actual I'm pretty sure I was talking about other people with opinions like this.... like , if someone wants these rules , than he needs to quit , simple as that , its not towards you

  • The Lion Turtle
    Captain
    Insider
    Founder

    I would be okay with a PvE mode as long as those players get significantly less gold for their voyages.

    If you don't want to deal with the risk then you shouldn't get as much in return.

  • Hotel Actual
    Founder

    @the-lion-turtle said in Make SoT single player only:

    I would be okay with a PvE mode as long as those players get significantly less gold for their voyages.

    If you don't want to deal with the risk then you shouldn't get as much in return.

    Good compromise

  • devilcorpsdoc
    Founder

    @mightyphase Its just a game, a Rare game at that.

  • Kuerbisfuerst

    Just for your information , this post is not addressed to the creator of this post , it is for those who want things , that have a greater impact on the game than just fixing some bugs or names, changed.

    The problem many people don't really understand is, that the staff that worked on this game had a vision how it is supposed to turn out. There are a few things that can be changed and will be changed if the community wants this, but you can't make a game where everyone is happy with it and the creators are still able to call it their creation. Gamers have to accept that we are not the creators of this game and if we only want to change it we shouldn't play it. If this game is good enough for us to play , we should accept it the way the creators made it. It's not pure pvp, it's not pure pve, it's not even meant to be something like that. This game as far as I can see is supposed to make the storys of Pirates as we have known them in our childhood come alive , in a way we can enjoy it. It's not pure realism but just the right amount of Pirate legends. So either way you can accept that there is no arguing about safe zones , pvp or pve , because these things change the game fundamentally, and that is not how it is supposed to be. You can't tell nature that you don't want rain just because it's uncomfortable.

  • LaughsManiacaly
    Master
    Founder

    I love the amount of people who just don't get the sarcasm in the title, honestly I was gonna come here and be like what the hell but then read the actual comment within. First time I've been click baited in a while, good on ya

  • Vaca Hombre
    Champion
    Boatswain
    Founder

    I honestly feel kinda bad for the devs. They've got people on one side yelling that all PvP players are griefers and ruining the game, and on the other side they have people yelling that PvE players are wimps and cowards and need to get out.

    I just feel like Rare's in the middle going, "guys, guys, we're trying to strike a balance," but nobody's listening to them.

  • CaseSugar401098

    Go play a different game.

  • Hotel Actual
    Founder

    @casesugar401098 said in Make SoT single player only:

    Go play a different game.

    Thanks for your input.

  • Ar Ghost II
    Founder

    Even though the topic is meant to be taken not seriously i think balancing the multiplayer encounters would help a lot.
    Like, letting the small ships be able to escape bigger ships by speed alone or something like that. Generally speaking - easier ways to flee from the pursuers or just more ways to flee.
    But anyway, yeah, i think the people who wish this game was single-player should rethink what they really want from the game. Controlling a ship alone is hard and if you'll ever want to switch to bigger one you'll be completely undermanned.
    This IS a multiplayer game based on crew cooperation after all.
    ...Guess i'm taking this too seriously.

  • Hotel Actual
    Founder

    @ar-ghost-ii

    So small ships can attack large ships but if it isn't going their way they can outrun the large ship?

    Ship equivalent of FPS poking lol

  • Ar Ghost II
    Founder

    @hotel-actual Not really, i think if it's not going their way they'll just get sinked... And it's not like they can deal heavy damage to big ships.
    Anyway, what did you expect, a full paragraph of me balancing the game?
    It's not simple, i know. Lotsa thinking is required.
    I'm getting off topic, so i'll stop.

  • Noctael
    Master

    For sure, the game isnt for everyone. But in the first year, the game will grow with its community. Even if we come from different background and expectation everything will merge and make this game as it should be. PVE AND PVP, fun, crossplaform, solo AND multi. Some people will leave, other will forge the core. SoT only need a bit of time.

  • Hm Indubitably
    Marauder

    @hotel-actual I think that the people who are going to moan about the fact that they are dying and they just want to be able to have safe zones so they can turn in their treasure need to leave the game completely because the title itself warns them that their treasure is not safe.

  • SirLiborius
    Marauder
    Founder

    @katttruewalker said in Make SoT single player only:

    @misterdoomed @Hotel-Actual

    Ok, so I've been watching one of the very first videos where Joe and Gregg discuss what Sea of Thieves actually is, as a game, you might find it interesting too.

    Interesting, yes.
    The problem seems to be, that people just heard the part they want.
    For example, i am more interested in quests and exploration.
    Other players are interested in the fact that every player can be a target and you can basically attack everyone.
    At the actual point when i look at this forum and the game, it seem like many players aren't interested in anything else then causing trouble to everyone.
    So it seems like the community decides that the whole exploration part will be overshadowed - maybe even overrun - by pure pvp.
    If most of the players prefer a peg-legged GTA-clone and rare listens to the community, then this will be it.

    That would be sad for every effort spend into this detailed game and a part of the community will wave goodbye.

    I admire Rares idea of letting the players do whatever they want, but honestly it doesn't look like it will work out by just throwing everyone in random lobbies, the same issue as in any other game which tried that.
    Too many players are not following the pirates code or any common sense, they just run (or sail) around attacking everything for no reason.

    We will hopefully see and hear, how Rare thinks about this.

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