Outpost should be a safe zone

  • Ultimate Powa
    Master
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    @mercen-one said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    This is a good idea, I agree with you. This needs to be looked at. Because, players just camping next to the tents just waiting for other players that are actually playing the game the way it was intended, and turning in their treasures. It's basically like spawn camping. Ruining the game experience.

    Waiting at an outpost to steal other players treasure is an intented way to play the game.
    Being a pirate does not ruin the game experience, it enhances it.

    Since there's no way for a crew to predict where another crew will respawn, camping is pretty much impossible once your ship is sunk.
    If you're a skilled enough sailor, you can just outrun PvP when it presents itself.
    I'm always able to lose enemy crews by going into a storm.

    If other crews can camp you at outposts, you're doing something very wrong.
    Its never happened to me despite the several attempts to take my treasure I experience every play session.

  • its Gallyy

    no area is a safe area when u are a pirate ahah yall just mad cuz bad

  • TRHawthorne
    Marauder

    No they should not be safe. That's the entire point of the game. NOT TO BE SAFE. There are already thousands of carebear games.

  • KendoRoland

    @apexbox2233 said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    I think outpost should be a safe zone I don’t wanna worry about the enemies by killing,robbing, and raiding the boat. No weapons or not by having weapons damage to players, it can ruin the quest and you have to start over all the way from the outpost to the point where you wasted gold. So I hope this will be fixed when the game fully releases

    I hope I am not the only one requesting this btw

    This is the whole point of the game dude. Its called sea of thieves not Sea of Safezones. If you honestly cant return chests without getting killed your playing the game wrong. All you have to do is be careful and go to an island without ships then even if someone is camping the island without a ship take your lowest gold chest if you die go to another island. There arent enough players in the game to camp all the outposts. And as far as people destroying your ship befor you get to the port... once again your playing it wrong. If you died gally v gally, then you got outplayed. If you die sloop v gally you played wrong. Sloops need to run away from a gally if they have treasure they want to hand in. Simply sail through tight spots or sail into a storm and you'll lost the other ship 100 percent of the time. EZ money.

  • apexbox2233
    Ship Mate

    @its-gallyy has nothing to do with being bad but I want atleast something to prevent getting spawn killed over and over plus how would you feel if that happened to you? Like I said they should make make it safe somehow or just maybe a karma ranking for killing people in a place where you return you’re quest item

  • apexbox2233
    Ship Mate

    @kendoroland said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    @apexbox2233 said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    I think outpost should be a safe zone I don’t wanna worry about the enemies by killing,robbing, and raiding the boat. No weapons or not by having weapons damage to players, it can ruin the quest and you have to start over all the way from the outpost to the point where you wasted gold. So I hope this will be fixed when the game fully releases

    I hope I am not the only one requesting this btw

    This is the whole point of the game dude. Its called sea of thieves not Sea of Safezones. If you honestly cant return chests without getting killed your playing the game wrong. All you have to do is be careful and go to an island without ships then even if someone is camping the island without a ship take your lowest gold chest if you die go to another island. There arent enough players in the game to camp all the outposts. And as far as people destroying your ship befor you get to the port... once again your playing it wrong. If you died gally v gally, then you got outplayed. If you die sloop v gally you played wrong. Sloops need to run away from a gally if they have treasure they want to hand in. Simply sail through tight spots or sail into a storm and you'll lost the other ship 100 percent of the time. EZ money.

    all I am asking is outpost I don’t expect any other island or even in the ocean to be a safe zone but outpost that’s it

  • its Gallyy

    they r not going to make safe zones quit being a (Mod Edit)

  • KendoRoland

    @apexbox2233 I understand what your asking and it simply wouldn't work. It would ruin the game entirely. The reason being is that gally can outrun any smaller ship. And a smaller ship can out maneuver a gally. If you don't want to fight someone you don't have to. You could run all the way to safe zone outpost and never have to fight simply wasting the time of the people chasing you. You can already lose people dude you just have to use the storm and the fog. There's a reason they said there wont be safe-zones. Its not to be a**holes who want you to pvp constantly, it simply wouldn't work within the PvPvE framework of the game. If you don't want to deal with that then the best thing to do would be to wait for full release when there is most content or play another game.

  • UltimaThule
    Captain
    Founder

    @apexbox2233 You can always tell if someone is on an island. Don't stop until you look around the island for a boat or a mermaid. You won't be able to see the smoke from another player's mermaid but you will see the mermaid near the shore of an island. However players alone without a ship are rare anyway. So my best advice is just don't pull straight up to the dock without whipping around the island once to get a good look. Safe zones are not a good idea. Attempting to steal something from someone right as they turn in , is great. It sucks when it happens to you tho. As it should. But more experienced players that have something they absolutely want to get back dont take risks with it. Thats good because it gives the reward more value. In my opinion

  • apexbox2233
    Ship Mate

    @schneekoerper99 said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    What ps are you? LOL. Never seen ps like you.

    Its a game, you know? People wants to have some fun. If you dont defend your ship it will sink. The most time u will spawn far away from other players, but if u spend to much time on one island you get f****d up. This game is supposed to be a team game. Not a single player game, thats why only experienced players should sail alone. Get friends or look for clans or other people who wants to team up. Much way better. Oh my god.. I laugh so hard.

    ITS A PIRATE GAME! PIRATES ARE OUT THERE! THEY ARE SINKING EVERY SHIP AND STEALING TREASURES AND GOLD AND AND AND.

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT PIRATES ARE?

    Just ask for a Sea of social life open world. Maybe they will develope it.

    Thanks.
    Again if you read what I said I know it’s about being a pirate in the game and I know that. I know it’s sea of theives but this is about fixing problems with toxic players who wanna ruin the game in a place where you can even be spawn killed over and over. I am only asking for a place where you turn in your treasure to be atleast somewhat safe

  • RaRexMaximus
    Founder

    @tre-oni said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    Sorry guys, but it's been stated not happening. It's been tested and didn't really feel like it fit the game

    Then expect this game to fizzle out instantly after launch.

  • RaRexMaximus
    Founder

    @unfound said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    you can ask as much as you want but they said no safe zones ever

    I bet they implement something...even a pacifist option...if they dont...expect this game to bomb.

  • RaRexMaximus
    Founder

    @pocket-fox-au said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    I don't really need another PvP only survival game that is full of griefers and try hard trolls. I was so hyped for this game, and it being made by RARE, omg yes!
    But I'm not seeing any story, any friendly player interaction. Just ANOTHER PvP troll/griefer fest. Not worth $100 AUD.

    I work hard all day as an EMT, so when I come home, I want to play co-cooperatively in a fun environment. Getting ganked by 4 person teams at the outposts or someone camping on my boat to kill me over and over and over and over when I respawn is not fun.

    I'd rather a double shift at work with some m**h head trying to gouge my eyeballs out than be trolled and griefed in my personal time.

    I couldnt agree more.

  • RaRexMaximus
    Founder

    @franzborg People will find a way to deal with bullies...its called not playing the game.

  • LaughsManiacaly
    Master
    Founder

    Griefing in terms of being spawn killed on your boat.

    Solution
    Scuttle the boat.

    Griefing as in being killed at an outpost.

    Solution
    Open your eyes, don't dock at an outpost with mermaid or mast. Move on
    (three M's of survival here)

    Griefing in terms of being hunted for sport constantly.

    Solution
    Git gud scrub, you have the same as they do, this game is built on equal opportunity and horizontal progression, they have no "upper hand"

    Any more of the same above issues please revert to the answer "i don't know how to play" for anything not mentioned please tag me with the details and lets try to find a resolve.

  • DaRealPastrami
    Master
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    Founder

    @zizojk That’s what I want too

  • apexbox2233
    Ship Mate

    @laughsmaniacaly said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    Griefing in terms of being spawn killed on your boat.

    Solution
    Scuttle the boat.

    Griefing as in being killed at an outpost.

    Solution
    Open your eyes, don't dock at an outpost with mermaid or mast. Move on
    (three M's of survival here)

    Griefing in terms of being hunted for sport constantly.

    Solution
    Git gud scrub, you have the same as they do, this game is built on equal opportunity and horizontal progression, they have no "upper hand"

    Any more of the same above issues please revert to the answer "i don't know how to play" for anything not mentioned please tag me with the details and lets try to find a resolve.

    Sigh it’s not about getting good....... don’t get me wrong I don’t mind the fact that this game is challenging but I already explanded it so I am not gonna repeat myself but for the love of god please no name calling...... I just don’t want toxicity that’s all

  • Hotel Actual
    Founder

    @axsinisterxomen

    If you don't like pvp and ship combat, stealing and plundering, deceit and betrayal why on earth would you play a pirate themed game.

    Please don't allow this game to be changed to hold the hands of players who don't like fighting in multiplayer games.

    Don't like pirate like behaviour don't play pirate like games.

  • LaughsManiacaly
    Master
    Founder

    @apexbox2233 sigh... It really is all it boils down to.
    Those who are better may flaunt that fact by repeatedly killing others because there is ni justification not to.

    You have the same as tgey do so you may need to fight them weather by choice or not alternatively loose them by keen sailing.
    If your a sloop player wondering why gallions keep sinking you, it's because a single sail on the horizon is an easy picking, try a gallion and take 4 v 4 for the even run. Alternatively use that sloops agility to sink the gallion (yes it can be done).

    The simple answer is be more pirate.

  • XRed Recluse
    Master
    Founder

    @apexbox2233 No, I'm a pirate and I'm going to steal your stuff.

  • DVSUte

    @shadowstrider-7 please don't tell me you think actual pirates didnt attack ships dead in the water/at port etc...
    Pirates zero rules its pretty damn simple

  • Lumber Grug

    @axsinisterxomen

    The game will bomb if they add safe zones. You think a safe zone will save you? All this will encourage is groups to form to block entrance and you will still get looted. Be smart and alert, that is how you avoid fights you do not want to take.

  • StafyLocok

    I think you could think of a better option than this.

    You could have several pirate outposts just as they are right now, with increased rewards. And you could have a bigger island, with a fortified castle and town on it.

    You could chose to go their, with PVE milicia (stronger mobs, really really hard to take down, and passive until someone attacks).

    If you chose to go there you basically chose to be a corsair and get a bit less rewards.

    If someone takes up a fight in this area, he gets instantly attacked by the guards of the island and their ships are also attacked with higher aiming than the actual skeletons.

    This could be a place where players who actually prefer to PVE could still play without the frustration, but also wouldn't deny the PVP on the outposts for people who really love it this way.

    Also, you could have a reputation there, if you attack too often in this place, and chose to be a pirate openly, you get attacked as soon as you approach the island, because Ahoy', you're not welcome there.

    What do you think about it?

    Staf'

  • LUCKYHOOT
    Seafarer
    Insider

    Maybe you should be a better shot or get a better crew. No offense but how is that pirating, “oh we can’t steal from you cuz your on outpost land b****r” psh lame, be tricky, get smart. NUFF SAID!

  • LUCKYHOOT
    Seafarer
    Insider

    @magriff-wylder your safe zone is your ship if you can sail it, it’s the era of freedom in gaming, the ability to do as you please and longer withing another world. Get tougher, and shape the game from the inside. Don’t ruin it with typical “home base” with the “you can’t get me” type of stuff. You don’t play a first person shooters to replay the campaign 24/7 so why should this game be different

  • RaRexMaximus
    Founder

    @hotel-actual said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    @axsinisterxomen

    If you don't like pvp and ship combat, stealing and plundering, deceit and betrayal why on earth would you play a pirate themed game.

    Please don't allow this game to be changed to hold the hands of players who don't like fighting in multiplayer games.

    Don't like pirate like behaviour don't play pirate like games.

    I do like pirate games and i also know historically Pirates didint have a kill or be killed unspoken law. This game can be both PvE and PvP...i dont understand the desire that some have to want it to be all 100% PvP. You do know you are only thinning out the games population to the point you will rarely ever see anyone else to PvP right lol? I guarantee the majority interested in this game arent opposed to PvP but constant forced PvP with campers on outposts and crews basically blockading outposts will kill this game i promise you...

  • RaRexMaximus
    Founder

    @bigchiefhoot said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    @magriff-wylder your safe zone is your ship if you can sail it, it’s the era of freedom in gaming, the ability to do as you please and longer withing another world. Get tougher, and shape the game from the inside. Don’t ruin it with typical “home base” with the “you can’t get me” type of stuff. You don’t play a first person shooters to replay the campaign 24/7 so why should this game be different

    Your ship can easily be caught especially if you are solo and trying to man the sails and steer and repair...you will be caught and sunk or killed. And the whole "play with friends" or "play with a crew" is a laughable moot response. Pirates did not attack eachother non stop on upon sight every time, Pirates also did not blockade Nassau and attack other Pirates...in fact most avoided each other at sea.

  • Lithus 7

    @apexbox2233
    Yup! Give players time to breathe and mingle on outposts! We shouldn’t be forced to make a mad dash each time. It’s not fun constantly looking over your shoulder just to buy from a merchant

  • Jekiz2010

    This game is online PVP ! So if you want to play with safe zones go to another!
    No safe zones! Its game about pirates! If you want to sell your loot safely - play safely! Safe zones will kill all nice features in this game!

  • RaRexMaximus
    Founder

    @lithus-7 said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    @apexbox2233
    Yup! Give players time to breathe and mingle on outposts! We shouldn’t be forced to make a mad dash each time. It’s not fun constantly looking over your shoulder just to buy from a merchant

    Exactly, if you love 100% PvP 100% of the time then go play RS6 or Overwatch its all PvP all the time. Sea of Thieves players should have a safe place to conduct business....even historically ports were heavily guarded and Pirates didnt just start firing cannons at people or killing people in the wide open.

  • Awaken Lazarus
    Master
    Insider

    @axsinisterxomen bolded text
    So all Rare needs to do is implement a "bounty" system. Say you were killed by another crew. You could put a bounty out on them for others to kill them using gold, which would give gold some more value. Real trolls/griefers would be hunted down.

  • RaRexMaximus
    Founder

    @bigchiefhoot said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    Maybe you should be a better shot or get a better crew. No offense but how is that pirating, “oh we can’t steal from you cuz your on outpost land b****r” psh lame, be tricky, get smart. NUFF SAID!

    Whats lame is people camping ports...no skill in that, no intelligence in that, and winning by simple number of crew advantage isnt skill either....I dont know what you think you know about the 1600's and 1700's and piracy but there were laws then and plenty of Pirates were convicted and executed..in this game you get to do whatever you want camp,kill, grief and simply respawn with no penalty....aggressive PvP'rs will kill this game.

  • RaRexMaximus
    Founder

    @nam3lessscru8 said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    @axsinisterxomen bolded text
    So all Rare needs to do is implement a "bounty" system. Say you were killed by another crew. You could put a bounty out on them for others to kill them using gold, which would give gold some more value. Real trolls/griefers would be hunted down.

    The reward for bounties would need to be good enough to entice other PvPrs to commit to chasing a crew down. Plus they'd have to work it out so that a crew with a bounty cant just quit the game and come back in and have the bounty be gone.

  • RaRexMaximus
    Founder

    @lumber-grug said in Outpost should be a safe zone:

    @axsinisterxomen

    The game will bomb if they add safe zones. You think a safe zone will save you? All this will encourage is groups to form to block entrance and you will still get looted. Be smart and alert, that is how you avoid fights you do not want to take.

    The game will not bomb with safe zones, and people already camp the outposts so its already a problem without safe zones...you have a theory we have actual reality of whats happening in the beta. Right now there exists no safe place you can be hunted down and killed everywhere, in a safe zone even blockaded....trying to sink a ship or kill people before they get to said safe zone and place of business will be harder than you think.

    Ports in the heyday of Piracy where business was conducted were typically heavily guarded by the Spanish and British forces and french forces with exceptions of Nassau's time as a pirate nation basically...but even then the Pirates worked together...they would have never held Nassau had they been at eachothers throats instantly upon sight.

    All places of business aka vendors and taverns should be safe zones.

  • Awaken Lazarus
    Master
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    @axsinisterxomen The bounty would be based on their account so they couldn't just quit and make it go away and it could be worth it. If multiple bounties are placed on a person then that payout will grow larger and larger, hence the more enemies you make the more likely you'll get hunted down. You could also allow the bounty to be payed off by the person it's placed on. This would allow people to be a villan with a price. The money would go back to the victim, so they would get paided off to let them off the hook.

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