MMR Algo - Questions

Unlikely they will release the exact way this is calculated as, you can imagine, people will try to game it, in the same way you are suggesting loss farming.

Just FYI Microsoft basically nailed the SBMM with Halo and it’s highly likely a modded version exists for SoT.

Given that you’re still under 100 it’s likely you have more elastic rating / uncertainty than someone who is close to gold bones/ghost and so loss farming should in theory work.

However, I am fairly certain that there is technology in place to flag this behavior and pause rank adjustments until a more normal pattern resumes.

I was getting so demoralized I considered uninstalling the game.

Why...because of 1 single tiny part of the game? I never understand this, uninstalling a full game because of 1 part.

I consider loss farming to be dishonorable

But the person winning the free EXP and increasing their own wins doesn't see it that way. Thanks to these people, during double exp, I went up a lot faster in just an hour than I would normally. If these pirates wanna lose, just to earn half exp to unlock a Curse, so they can quit HQ. LET THEM.

I refuse to grind XP towards the skeleton curse since I want to deserve it when I own it.

Much like the rest of the players in this game. They refuse to grind anything because it takes too long, is stressful, has hardships, don't have the time. So the argument over dishonor when loss farming is moot.

In your experience, does loss farming help regularize the SBMM?

It helps do the thing you know it's going to do.
Will you meet people your level? No. Will you earn exp faster? Yes. By the time everything settles, nobody is equal to you in W/L, and the game just wants you to find a PvP partner.

That is Hourglass's only goal. Find yourself a PvP partner to fight, regardless of skill/wins/losses. Nobody cared about that without Hourglass back then (just attack each other), so why add that as a function now?

If they removed the curses. How will Hourglass look and feel?

@economic-unit more people play during fight nights and double XP nights so you got matched with people that are your actual MMR or could of been just starting that got matched against you due to them unable to find someone in their MMR. That's why you had more streaks during fight nights.

So for saying you haven't won much since fight nights is over yeah that is normal now. HG has been out for years and if you aren't at high levels you're kinda behind and are going to be just matched against anyone not your MMR due to it is hard finding people those levels. That is why you aren't winning the same as you did on Tuesday. You are getting matched against us daily HG players that are high leveled. This is why a lot of players only play during double XP to try to get their curses. They don't want to play against high leveled players or stuck underwater just searching for an opponent. So you either need to just keep fighting who you get matched against and learn from the high leveled experienced players to get better and stand a chance at winning or play only during double xp events unfortunately. This has been a common topic. Im not sure what would be better if they stop matching people all together if they can't find someone in your MMR and let you sit underwater waiting on a match which may take hours or never show up and you totally miss out on any fights and even the loss rep or keep it the way it is and just finally match you with the next available match. I would rather take the next available match and get the rep if I was just starting out again at least it's something.

@burnbacon said in MMR Algo - Questions:

Why...because of 1 single tiny part of the game? I never understand this, uninstalling a full game because of 1 part.

The PVP is the part of the game I enjoy. The PVE is not really my thing. Just my opinion.

So the argument over dishonor when loss farming is moot.

I am not trying to start a grand debate or anything. I am just sharing my opinion. This is how I feel, not some great truth about the universe. :)
I just don't want to unlock the skeleton curse with loss farmed XP because then I won't feel like I deserve to wear it.

If they removed the curses. How will Hourglass look and feel?

I don't know if that would make a significant difference. Not that many people are loss farming in order to get the curses since it's so slow. In the end people play the game mode for fun more than for cosmetics.

@elmo6842
Hm that is interesting but does not match my experience. We usually play every evening (starting around 9pm) and so far we have a win rate of roughly 50%. Maybe there is a special rule for newer accounts (like Fortnite's bot lobbies for new players) that had us facing fair opponents, and somehow we just stopped qualifying for that rule and are now being matched with the "real" player pool... Something drastically changed after this Tue.

@economic-unit so you can't play every evening for 4 years that hg has been out if you don't have both curses yet. So the nights lately that you have been playing you just got lucky and had people on that were new players. And as i stated im a daily HG player and most of my matches have been new players lately which is bad for them causec they can't find people. Hg has been very slow lately and I play brig or gally