Sell Smugglers Loots at Reaper's Hiddeout

  • Arias1101
    Ship Mate
    Insider
    Founder

    Hi, returning player after a 3-season break here.

    Maybe this suggestion has been made a million times - and it might be obvious - but it still apparently is an issue 3 seasons later.

    The Current State:
    Smugglers' loot is trash.
    Aside from commendations -and ignoring the two crazy people in the back of the classroom who feel like smugglers' voyages are fun- they are worthless.

    Not because of their raw values (13k for a barrel of powder is crazy), but because of how annoying they are to sell.

    The Lore:
    There is NO logical or lore reason Reapers wouldn't buy those. In fact:
    "The Reaper's Bones stand for 'True Piracy', seeking out the toughest, most ruthless pirates on the seas. For this end, the Reaper's Bones are willing to reward Pirates for any Treasure, stolen or found, that they bring in."

    Isn't an "Exquisite Painting" a "Treasure"?

    In their current state, smugglers loots are both frustrating AND lore-breaking at the same time.
    I mean, Reapers will buy Rum, but not "Floral Rum" or "Golden Rum"? They only like the bad stuff? Let’s be real.

    Value Issue with Reaper's Emissary:
    I am aware that making Reapers buy smugglers' loot would raise a new issue. A 13k barrel would sell, as is, at 32.5k (with Emissary V) which would make smugglers even more irrelevant.

    This is easily fixed:

    1. Divide smugglers items base price by 4 (a 1,000 gold painting would now cost 250 base).
    2. Add a +300% bonus when selling items to Smugglers (1000/4 +300% = 1,000 again).
    3. Allow smugglers item to be sold at base price at Reaper's Hiddeout

    This would ensure smugglers' items are still worth more when sold to Smugglers than to Reapers (even with the +150% Emissary V bonus, 250+150% =625).

    You could even create a simple but effective commendation like "Sell 30 stolen smugglers loot to Reapers Hiddeout" with a simple Title like "Smuggler Stealer" or something.
    I don't know, how hard could this be...?

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  • BurnBacon
    Vanguard
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    There is NO logical or lore reason Reapers wouldn't buy those

    You just called it trash loot. So yeah maybe reapers feel the same way? And lore wise. It suppose to be smuggler stuff. You know stuff tha isn’t known to the seas or should be. It’s meant to be hidden items (more to come btw)

    As well. If it’s trash loot to you. Why bother caring? Why bother picking it up.

  • Boneheart1237
    Marauder
    Insider

    This is only my opinion, but I’ve always seen Smugglers as the “Reverse Reapers” faction.
    Reapers Bones get:

    • Bonuses from theft
    • The ability to turn in all loot, sans smugglers
    • A singular turn in point
    • One of, if not the strongest Emissary flags in the game with a negligible con if you play the faction the way it’s “intended”

    Smugglers get:

    • (Arguably) downsides from theft due to transporting dangerous loot like Black Powder Kegs
    • No sales for loot outside their own faction
    • Multiple turn in locations
    • No emissary flag

    I can agree it definitely feels a bit strange if not damaging to the lore of the game, but I think from a gameplay perspective it somewhat makes sense.

    Not disagreeing with the idea, just kinda tossing my two cents in as well, but I am admittedly a huge fan of Reapers Bones and the playstyle of the faction, so I know I’m absolutely bias towards it

  • Arias1101
    Ship Mate
    Insider
    Founder

    @burnbacon I don't see why a reaper crew sinking a smuggler wouldn't get any reward at all.
    I only ever play Reaper to do some HG, but it's just a matter of consistency really.

  • Arias1101
    Ship Mate
    Insider
    Founder

    @boneheart1237 It's fair to see it as a reverse Reaper.

    I mean, I can keep throwing trash in the water like 90% of the playerbase at this point, but it's more of a logical / consistency concern.

    I'm not going to go to reapers Hiddeout to sell three paintings for a penny either. But I do feel like Reapers should get something for sinking a Smuggler. Not just some trash to leave on spot.

  • Boneheart1237
    Marauder
    Insider

    @arias1101 That's fair, the lack of an Emissary flag kinda just makes me go "Aww dang it" when I sink a Smuggler lol

  • Flashkannon5118
    Seafarer

    Frankly, if there's a faction who should take Smuggler's loot at a reduced price, it's Merchants. That's their stuff, you know? In-lore they could be returning it to its rightful owners or turning it in to the authorities to whom it is contraband for a small reward.

    If only the smugglers take it, it's not even worth picking up, usually.

  • SnugPlayer18335
    Ship Mate
    Insider

    @Arias1101 That's what I've been saying! They literally say the reapers are confiscating smuggler loot, so why not help em out???? The worst part is, the smuggler loot in reaper forts. REAPER forts. Yuh? 3/4s of the loot is smuggler junk, which is a huge pain to sell. Why they call it a Reaper fort???????? It's reaper loot.

  • Da German420
    Legend
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    I dont get the whole Point of the smugglers league i get gold but who needs gold?, did they added cosmetics for sellin smuggler items? Its also messy check for unlockable cosmetics after a long break. Sure it is to push pvp but diving n a lot raids ruined it , the best openworld battles r happened in the first year where just alll 3 hours a fort was avtive on a server

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