There is NO reason to reset an in-game currency

  • Ive been playing games for thousands of hours since i was young, and sea of thieves is definately my all time favorite, but this recent announcement of a "big dubloon reset" made me worried about where this game is heading.

    They said in the announcement video the want to make it more "scarce", but that doenst make it right to take away all the dubloons we have and throw cosmetics at us. At least convert the amount of dubloons we have to the new overhauled system, or just make a new currency (Maybe like silver from the arena mode.) This new monthly event with a currency bound to it sounds cool to me, but why would they need to have it for the same currency that people have grinded for over thousands of hours.

    Some people say "you have nothing to spend it on anyways", but that doesnt make it right either. Its a pirate game, and you are supposed to be able to pick your playstyle, whether you want to hoard your currency or spend it should totally be up to the player. Im sure there will be some cool time limited cosmetics we can spend it on before the reset but spending such a hard attained currency should always be optional. Adding new limited cosmetics only purchasable with dubloons sounds great, but why would they need to take our dubloons and make it only attainable through a monthly event. The only thing that does is make more FOMO for the players and i think that is the reason so many players are on-and-off with this game. None of these time limited events add anything to the actual core game that people love, we want to see new things and mechanics that stay so you can explore them on your own terms and form your own adventures.

    And for the people saying "you can just convert it to gold" must not understand the difference in their values. 1 dubloon translates to 200 gold according to rare, that means 5000 dubloons is 1 000 000 gold. You dont even have to be experienced to make that in one sitting. Converting dubloons to gold is a scam, it just isnt worth it, therefore people are going to hoard dubloons when they get them, waiting for something to spend them on. Ive have 1200 hours of playtime and still only have dubloons equivalent to 4 400 000 gold. Meanwhile i've bought the entire dark adventurers set and a lot more for probably over 40 000 000 gold and still have 27 000 000 gold in the pocket currently. Converting my dubloons to gold would just be throwing them away.

    Just the other day me and some friends where doing fort of the damned when we found ourselves with 4 reaper chests, but since we were guild emissaries we wouldnt get the bonus for selling them so we sold all our loot except the reaper chests, lowered our guild emissary and put up a reaper emissary, got it to grade 5 and then sold the reaper chests because we wanted to make sure we got as many dubloons as possible because its already a scarce currency and im sure a lot of people would agree. We were planning to wrap up our session after fort of the damned but when we got the opportunity to make some extra dubloons we took it.

    Dubloons are a fun part of the game, they are not easy to get and thats why me and many other players have been hoarding them. We know rare can make great things that we will want to spend our dubloons on, i got really excited when i first saw "The Big Doubloon Reset" on my youtube homepage as i thought they were finally adding what ive been waiting for but this is just not right.

    I really hope Rare takes all the feedback they have received on the forum/comments into consideration and find a new way to implement this. Convert our dubloons to another currency or just dont mess with dubloons and make a new currency for the new monthly events.

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  • Of course there is. Many games do it as an incentive to gameplay.

    Doubloons were used to purchase previously missed cosmetics.
    This meant those who got the cosmetics on original release did not need to spend doubloons and thus built up a big stash that they had nothing to spend it on.

    New players would grind doubloons to purchase these cosmetics they desired.
    All current doubloon cosmetics will be now purchasable for gold. This is allowing newer players to catch up.

    All players will be starting on zero and we can the see how the new doubloon model works in Season 19.

  • @pc-monkfish said in There is NO reason to reset an in-game currency:

    Of course there is. Many games do it as an incentive to gameplay.

    Please name 3 games that reset a currency that lead to more players enjoying the game.

    Doubloons were used to purchase previously missed cosmetics.
    This meant those who got the cosmetics on original release did not need to spend doubloons and thus built up a big stash that they had nothing to spend it on.

    What you are missing here is that dubloons were part of the game when these limited cosmetics originally dropped, so the people that have been collecting since then gets some cosmetics thrown at them and all this currency taken away and thats somehow fair?

    New players would grind doubloons to purchase these cosmetics they desired.
    All current doubloon cosmetics will be now purchasable for gold. This is allowing newer players to catch up.
    All players will be starting on zero and we can the see how the new doubloon model works in Season 19.

    Not sure how this answers anything related. Dubloons were not added exclusively for new players, its recently the've started adding back old seasonal cosmetics for people that didnt play at that time.

  • @jkh8407 Updated your post formatting for better readability :)

  • Think about the positive sides: Finally loot that pays doubloons will be contested and worth fighting for. There was a very long period of time when nobody cared about reaper chests. Only after they added commendation to sell huge amount of those they started to matter again. This will also make FotD great again.

    There is no way to create market that uses doubloons if people are already sitting with ridiculous amounts of it. You'd be able to buy all new stuff right off the launch, then cry about not having enough use for doubloons and all the WE and FotD would remain dorment.

  • @korpp1s to me that like reseting reputation or gold and saying "well no you can enjoy the grind again"

    Players that have been playing thousands of hours and making big amounts of dubloons should get something other then cosmetics they are basically forced to buy thrown at them.

    There will always be people crying over having to many dubloons (and gold), you dont fix that by putting everyone back on page 1.

  • @jkh8407 said in There is NO reason to reset an in-game currency:

    Players that have been playing thousands of hours and making big amounts of dubloons should get something other then cosmetics they are basically forced to buy thrown at them.

    Not forced to buy anything since you can trade it all for gold. I'm sure they will add very expensive stuff to buy with gold in future. No work is lost there.

  • @korpp1s you probably didnt read my post, but i wrote this.

    And for the people saying "you can just convert it to gold" must not understand the difference in their values. 1 dubloon translates to 200 gold according to rare, that means 5000 dubloons is 1 000 000 gold. You dont even have to be experienced to make that in one sitting. Converting dubloons to gold is a scam, it just isnt worth it, therefore people are going to hoard dubloons when they get them, waiting for something to spend them on. Ive have 1200 hours of playtime and still only have dubloons equivalent to 4 400 000 gold. Meanwhile i've bought the entire dark adventurers set and a lot more for probably over 40 000 000 gold and still have 27 000 000 gold in the pocket currently. Converting my dubloons to gold would just be throwing them away.

  • @jkh8407 I did read it. I have 21k doubloons myself and have traded probably closer to 100k to gold over time, usually during double gold weekend for better value.

    Also don't really see how it's a scam:
    Ashen key: 5 doubloons = 1000 gold
    Reaper chest: 25 doubloons = 5000 gold

    Those are just base values (emissary bonuses apply), also double that if you trade during Gold&Glory. Seems pretty normal to me for single items.

  • @jkh8407 said in There is NO reason to reset an in-game currency:

    Players that have been playing thousands of hours and making big amounts of dubloons should get something other then cosmetics they are basically forced to buy thrown at them.

    ....like what?

    They're literally offering us time limited cosmetics. What the heck more do you want? A free season pass? A hand engraved placard that you can hang in your living room? Like jeeze people speak with such entitlement about these silly doubloons it's hilarious. I'll buy whatever time limited cosmetics I can with my 55k and then be glad that there's some unique reason to go after them and play the game in the future.

  • @korpp1s
    Ashen key: 5 doubloons = 1000 gold
    Reaper chest: 25 doubloons = 5000 gold

    Sure these seem reasonable, but the thing about dubloons are that they are rare. They are not like gold because not a lof of treasure sells for dubloons. I can make 1 000 000 easily in one sitting but making 5000 dubloons in one sitting is different.

  • @sweetsandman Im not expecting anything, im expecting to keep a currency because its the currency ive grinded for. They can add these limited cosmetics without taking my dubloons in some "big reset". They can easily add a new currency for this new monthly thing and that will be just as big of a reason but its the fact they decided to remove peoples dubloons for no reason.

  • @jkh8407 said in There is NO reason to reset an in-game currency:

    @sweetsandman Im not expecting anything...

    Your words, not mine:

    Players that have been playing thousands of hours and making big amounts of dubloons should get something ...

    _

    im expecting to keep a currency because its the currency ive grinded for. They can add these limited cosmetics without taking my dubloons in some "big reset". They can easily add a new currency for this new monthly thing and that will be just as big of a reason but its the fact they decided to remove peoples dubloons for no reason.

    OK so a third (really, fourth) currency simply so players can keep a stockpile of an old currency that they literally don't ever use? Totally makes sense 🤪

    With how busted the game feels lately, I don't think any additional counters can do this spaghetti code game any favors.

  • @JKH8407 From what I gather, you’re saying you’d prefer holding onto a large, useless pile of currency rather than starting fresh with a new pile that has actual value, with the old pile transformed into a commemorative cosmetic item.

    Think of it this way: back in the day, the whole point of doubloons was to complete an event, earn doubloons, and spend them on cosmetics that marked the occasion. So isn’t it fitting they now commemorate their own reset through cosmetic items purchased during said reset? In this way, your bilge rat doubloons are fulfilling their original purpose. I think this is the most fitting way to reset doubloons.

  • @sweetsandman I think expecting to keep your currency in a video game is not groundbreaking. Its would absolutely be possible to convert the dubloons we have to the new system so players get to keep their currency. Why would they add a "unusable currency" if they just reset it after a few years? People defend rare with everything but there are so many ways they could do this better, im just putting out ideas

  • @spectergames706 It may be the most fitting way to reset doubloons, but the reset isnt necessary. They are just forcing us to spend our "useless pile of currency" when they can atleast convert it to the new system. Dubloons will be worth more in the new update, so someone who has 20k dubloons could maybe keep 2k, that way everyone doesnt automatically have all the new stuff but atleast get to keep some progress

  • @korpp1s said in There is NO reason to reset an in-game currency:

    Think about the positive sides: Finally loot that pays doubloons will be contested and worth fighting for. There was a very long period of time when nobody cared about reaper chests. Only after they added commendation to sell huge amount of those they started to matter again. This will also make FotD great again.

    There is no way to create market that uses doubloons if people are already sitting with ridiculous amounts of it. You'd be able to buy all new stuff right off the launch, then cry about not having enough use for doubloons and all the WE and FotD would remain dorment.

    I don't know if I'd count on Reaper Chests being a source of doubloons anymore. They said they are wanting to make them more scarce, and to me that means removing easily accessible ways of collecting them like a chest that constantly spawns on servers with 3+ ships on on demand in FotD.

  • As there are already a number of active Threads on the same topic, I'll be dropping anchor on this one.

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