Turn port merrick into a safe zone similar to the waiting room in the old arena game mode

@smoke5ohh
No safe zones, ever.

@smoke5ohh

How exactly do you expect new players to learn (to "learn the game without getting overwhelmed by trolls") without ever leaving the outpost? You don't learn by sitting at an outpost lol.

How are new players supposed to leave the safe zone if another ship is waiting right there for them? What's to stop someone from boarding your ship and stealing all your supplies? What if players don't want the entire server knowing how many are at that outpost?

Having "safe zones" won't make the game better. It won't help new players learn tactics, defense, and attack strategies. That only comes from going out and actually playing the game, experiencing it for yourself.

Wait, I can't attack other reapers? So what's to prevent me from boarding and taking supplies/loot?

If I'm going to attack players of the opposite faction, I'm going to want to get hourglass rep for it to make it count, to work towards my curse. Going into a base with opposing PvE doesn't sound like much of a challenge to be honest, and stealing things from others is exactly what we do all the time by organic pvp on the server.

On the map the port could have a number next to it indicating how many players are currently in the safe zone

and players outside the safe zone, waiting....

@smoke5ohh said in Turn port merrick into a safe zone similar to the waiting room in the old arena game mode:

another thing they could do in the safe zone is add a small PvP area and practice range to do a lil friendly PvP

You can do your friendly PvP in Hourglass. If you're friendly 😂 "Safe-zone" PvP makes absolutely no sense.

Otherwise, Safer Seas is expecting you with open arms.

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And btw, there is no need to make duplicate replies for 2 different people like you did with Bacon and Europa. Just tag them both in one reply.

See that wheel icon right next to "Reply" and "Quote"? You can use it to edit your post, and just add the tag of the other person.

@smoke5ohh said in Turn port merrick into a safe zone similar to the waiting room in the old arena game mode:

@europa4033
There is a difference between camping outpost and using it to meet other people. And for the ones saying there could be campers at the safe zone waiting there is plenty of ways to stop this first off the island could have a circular proximity to give anyone space to go where they need. And they could also have a damage negation on briefly while also having the commons locked like a passive mode kinda. And on top of that it’s not like yr gunna get anything from sinking somone at the safe zone when camping so what would be the point. Another thing they could do is if your holding pvp type loot or on burning blade or reaper/athena emissary they could make it where when you go to a safe zone you can’t damage people in the safe zone but the people in the safe zone can attack you if you have those PvP related things which could detur campers or griefers.

Except what you described violates the code of conduct, and puts other players in a position where they could end up being banned. One of the things Rare frowns upon, is spawn camping. Hanging out on someone's boat, killing them over and over without attempting to sink them, has caused players in the past to get banned. In your scenerio, there's no way to sink your ship, which forces players to spawn camp you.

We can't damage people in the safe zone but they can attack us? Ok, then we simply sail into the safe zone. Since our ship can't be sunk, we board your ship, and take your supplies and treasure.

You say you're not going to get anything by sinking someone? You don't need to have treasure in order to be sunk. If we're coming in to sell and we see your ship parked there, you better bet we're sinking you. If we can't sink you in the safe zone, then we spawn camp you (at the risk of possibly getting banned, which isn't fair to us because of this mechanic), which will frustrate newer players or those who don't like PvP (the whole point of this safe zone, right?

Also, since the Burning Blade is a world event and free for anyone to claim, or sink, it makes no sense to have the Burning Blade protected in the manner you describe, since it wouldn't be fair to the playerbase, and opens it to trolls.

If you have to invent a mechanic (that violates rules, and opens the door to questions you can't answer), that leaves players invincible in order to avoid PvP, means you clearly need more practice at PvP to learn how to better defend yourself. Log on a sloop, dive for hourglass and practice. You have nothing to lose, and your only goal is to sink that other ship. With time, your skills will improve, and you'll see how you don't need safe zones in the game. I've met amazing players in this game who are now friends that we didn't meet in a safe zone, but in epic battles against them. Our crew doesn't want someone who needs a safe zone.

@smoke5ohh said in Turn port merrick into a safe zone similar to the waiting room in the old arena game mode:

@smoke5ohh another thing they could do in the safe zone is add a small PvP area and practice range to do a lil friendly PvP

LOL with ships waiting for you to leave the zone, this area seems kinda redundant.

Another thing you're not going to like to hear, is how you can't trust other players. Alliance betrayals happen all the time, even though those players were friendly lol (laughing here because it's bringing back a lot of guilty memories). What do you expect players to do, just hang out inside a ring at the outpost? We sail over, meet you, we're definitely friendly and ask if you'd like to stack FotD together, and we'll split the loot. You in? 😉

@smoke5ohh said in Turn port merrick into a safe zone similar to the waiting room in the old arena game mode:

@europa4033 betrayals make the whole thing better lol some of yall really forget there is only like 5 ships in a server at a time I don’t see the issue. And if you get sunk from a camper waiting outside safe zone I mean that’s just skill issue. I said safe “zone” not safe seas lol adding a safe zone could also help pvp players infiltrate other alliances and ect. I love pvp that’s one thing yall are missing understanding lol if you get killed trying to leave safe zone boo hoo scuttle go to a new sea of just spawn at another island like normal and go about yr day. The safe zone wont change any game mechanics. Just give people a chance to chill with others or trick other crews. After all it’s a pirate game. What’s that being said in real life there was a real life safe zones for pirates back in the day like Nassau created by Blackbeard himself. The safe zone doesn’t mean you’re completely safe from others it’s just a new tool for everyone to use how they please. If you have an issue getting sunk then go to safe seas or get better lol . And as for the practice range idea yall must never do pvp any time im in a alliance with friends we always try to practice sword fights and sniping and if there was a small arena in the safe zone it could allow u to do small fights not real matches just like free roam fighting and if u die u just respawn in the armory.
Some of you guys need common sense there is plenty of ways to do this and many games do the same thing just would be cool to have a social hub in sea of thieves as well. And as for the camping I don’t condone it but there is nothing you can do about some trolls. They still do these activities without the safe zone

Actually, I think it's you who's forgotten that it's 6 ships per server, not 5. Give people a chance to chill with others or trick other crews? That happens all the time in this game, and you don't need a "safe zone" to do it. Many times my friends and I have had epic battles, where the losing crew will go ahead and board the winning ship and we all talk, laugh, exchange compliments, and share experiences with each other. We don't need a safe zone to meet other players lol. Another friend of mine is amazing at hiding on other ships, waiting until they go and sell so he can sell their loot, thereby "tricking" them. You don't need a safe zone to do that.

There already is a small "practice range/small arena" where you can practice pvp: it's called hourglass. No matter if you win or lose, you'll still earn progress towards a curse. As for many of us needing 'common sense', custom serves are coming. You'll be able to practice pvp to your heart's content there, however there'll be no progress earned towards anything. This is a pvpve game where loot's not yours until you sell it. There's no need for a 'safe zone', and if you feel there is, safer seas/custom servers are that way-.

@smoke5ohh

After all it’s a pirate game.

So why even add a "Safe Space" for pirates?

Just give people a chance to chill with others or trick other crews.

You can chill with others, Anywhere on the sea. Tavern or on ships. Better place? Ferry of the damned.

What’s that being said in real life there was a real life safe zones for pirates back in the day like Nassau created by Blackbeard himself.

Need to dig up your history more. I own pirate books and this, half wrong. He didnt create it, it was established way before. And that place only lasted 2 years. :/ Also, like the movies proven. Pirates followed a Code or Guidelines but few actually followed them anyways. :P

The safe zone doesn’t mean you’re completely safe from others it’s just a new tool for everyone to use how they please.

As such, we should still be able to plunder from those seeking 'shelter'

If you have an issue getting sunk then go to safe seas or get better lol .

Thus, No Safe Zones required with that mindset.

Some of you guys need common sense there is plenty of ways to do this and many games do the same thing

and among those games, players found exploits and ways around it. Making those Safe Zones, a death sentence. Sometimes stuck in a loop of dying and unable to leave unless you Quit the game.

would be cool to have a social hub in sea of thieves

Just create a Hub outside the main game. Using what we should already still have. Arena stronghold. Building still there and unused.
We can login, decide to Join Hub and done. From where we can present ourselves, gather a crew or just "mingle"

And as for the camping I don’t condone it but there is nothing you can do about some trolls

Its no trolling if its within the line of Pirating. Waiting for someone to leave safe zone, and sink them. Poor sport but, I want your resources.

I like the idea of the two bases, stealing from one to give to the other, but I agree with the rest, no safe zones

The only place that would in any way make sense to turn into a possible safe zone is the secret lairs since you arnt supposed to be able to bring loot into them, but people will always find it fun waging war in those areas. Also there may be pvp achievements with the HG curses if i recall tied to both, but it may just be tied to entering the areas with the other curse.

@smoke5ohh said in Turn port merrick into a safe zone similar to the waiting room in the old arena game mode:

@europa4033 there is only 5 ships in a server buddy they don’t do 6 ship servers anymore. And sure they don’t have to use portmerrick they could use the arena stronghold for the social hub still a safe zone lol I just say port metrics bc I like it but it’s just so barren

Hate to burst your bubble on this, buddy, but welcome back to the game. I can tell you've been gone for quite some time lol so you're not going to believe this, but, there are 6 ships for each server. Also, the game doesn't need safe zones as you're removing the basic part of the game lol. Just get better at defense/offense please.

@europa4033 said in Turn port merrick into a safe zone similar to the waiting room in the old arena game mode:

@smoke5ohh said in Turn port merrick into a safe zone similar to the waiting room in the old arena game mode:

@europa4033 there is only 5 ships in a server buddy they don’t do 6 ship servers anymore. And sure they don’t have to use portmerrick they could use the arena stronghold for the social hub still a safe zone lol I just say port metrics bc I like it but it’s just so barren

Hate to burst your bubble on this, buddy, but welcome back to the game. I can tell you've been gone for quite some time lol so you're not going to believe this, but, there are 6 ships for each server. Also, the game doesn't need safe zones as you're removing the basic part of the game lol. Just get better at defense/offense please.

Oof... got OP in 120 inch 4K OLED, dayum! 🤣 The "buddy" part took me out lol

A great reminder people should work on attitude before making incorrect statements.

And absolutely spot on, nothing else to add.

@metal-ravage said in Turn port merrick into a safe zone similar to the waiting room in the old arena game mode:

We really need a "thumbs-down" emote for these kinds of posts.

Fair point. Though I'd prefer hiring more mods to lock these up faster.

It's not that even strongly negative ratio would stop people going over and over after same nonsense like this. But more mods should def help stopping the nonsense sooner 😂