Commendations that requires another players to play a specific way need to be one in done

  • One of the biggest problems I have with the game currently is Commendations that need another crew to play a specific way just to have the chance to attempt them. While not impossible to do once, the real problems comes in when the Commendation requires it to happen more then once.

    With Commendations like "Found You" and "Trap Ease Artist" it's gotten to the point just to complete them I have been sail around looking for other crews to ask the to throw down traps so I can disarm them or use their disguises so I can force them out of them, because I have yet run into any one using them organically.

    Now that season 16 here I see more commendations require another crew to play a specific way just to have the chance to attempt them and it requires it to happen more then once, again. I make the suggestion that any commendations that rely on the behavior of other players only need to be done once or not having cosmetics tie to them.

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  • It sorta shameful nobody uses traps anymore after there release. Nobody even disguised themselves either.

    I do and instead of interacting, they just throw blunders or “spy check” it not as funny. :(

  • @bigbadshadowman can you clarify which comms you feel require other players behaviour in a specific way? I hadn't noticed any myself. They just relate to stealing items which they get from the quest. Note all the cannon of rage comms can be done against skelly ships etc

  • @burnbacon said in Commendations that requires another players to play a specific way need to be one in done:

    It sorta shameful nobody uses traps anymore after there release. Nobody even disguised themselves either.

    Yep it is a shame, think I have come across only one boat that has had traps on it.

    I think if you couldn't trip/set off your own trap on your own boat they would be used a whole lot more.

  • @captdirtyoar I have been seeing a resurgence of brigs and gallys using traps at top of ladders. Sloop is too small really big risk of setting it off yourself

  • Did anyone get Secret Snare Setter organically? Kill 5 players with buried traps. At the time priming it with a blunder bomb to up the damage didn't count. Therefore a person would need to be at sub 25 health, while walkling over a very specific buried trap spot. Unless this is actually a strategy to get players to communicate and co-operate, in which case fair enough! I had a friend get the jigball one organically, I was astonished given the requirements.

    This seasons coms can mostly be gotten organically. Rusty Rollick (kill bone and blade skellies as an athena) is probably the trickiest to find the right circumstances. I did find someone elses's skeletons on an island, then I had to return to and outpost and raise athena and go back. A little clunky. Thankfully I was able to strike a deal later on so got it out of the way.

  • @hiradc unless the new skulls of Banished and loot can show up outside of voyages it will still require another crew to do the voyage just to give you the chance to steal and sell it. If the new skulls can show up in something like the FotD or FoF it's less of a problem, but if not it runs the risk of becoming one of the few commendations that become more impossible because people just stop doing them over time and asking other crews for help is a big ask given how much of a time sink it can be.

  • @bigbadshadowman have you looked at the map recently though? Literally every server has multiple people doing it.

    If you're not confident in pvp, try a diff method. Lay a trap with kegs in reapers tent or something.

  • @burnbacon

    I use traps every time I go into PVP. Even on the sloop, infact, I found a new strat with them last night. They are a great tool.

  • @hiradc said in Commendations that requires another players to play a specific way need to be one in done:

    @bigbadshadowman have you looked at the map recently though? Literally every server has multiple people doing it.

    If you're not confident in pvp, try a diff method. Lay a trap with kegs in reapers tent or something.

    I am a big fan of the keg trap play. I got a number of my CoFs that way. This particular com requires the skull to be stolen, then sold with a Reaper emissary up. Makes it tricky solo. Setting up an ambush, while having a marked ship and having to keep the ship alive is a lot. I did it with a brig crew, but we were able to have one member sail the boat off.

  • Not gonna pretend I did it the "real" way, most of these super specific ones from various seasons, REQUIRES you to ask others to help out. If not, you won't be able to do them.

    I really like the silly ones but they should limit them to 1 time and not make them too ridiculous. The one where two have to walk on a trap with a dance ball on it is close to impossible if you do it the organic way and that's just mentioning one.

  • @hiradc that not the problem, the problem is once the hype for the new content fades and other players stop doing the new voyage it makes the chances of completing a Commendation like "Reaper Rivals" (which also needs the skelly curse, that is a can of worms for someone else) organically become rarer, and the real problem for me is having to do that multiple times once the hype has died and more players stop touching that content all together.

    To put it simply my problem isn't interacting with other players, It's needing other players to play a specific way multiple times to unlock something

  • @bigbadshadowman said in Commendations that requires another players to play a specific way need to be one in done:

    One of the biggest problems I have with the game currently is Commendations that need another crew to play a specific way just to have the chance to attempt them. While not impossible to do once, the real problems comes in when the Commendation requires it to happen more then once.

    With Commendations like "Found You" and "Trap Ease Artist" it's gotten to the point just to complete them I have been sail around looking for other crews to ask the to throw down traps so I can disarm them or use their disguises so I can force them out of them, because I have yet run into any one using them organically.

    Now that season 16 here I see more commendations require another crew to play a specific way just to have the chance to attempt them and it requires it to happen more then once, again. I make the suggestion that any commendations that rely on the behavior of other players only need to be done once or not having cosmetics tie to them.

    I think that a lot of people feel entitled to everything in the game simply because it exist. You don’t need every commendation, and if you really want it, do what’s required to get it. Why shouldn’t there be commendations geared towards someone playing a certain way, and if you don’t play that way, why care?

  • @bigbadshadowman fair enough, im still mopping up other crews selling gifts so I do understand your pain 😅

  • @capt-greldik sagte in Commendations that requires another players to play a specific way need to be one in done:

    I think that a lot of people feel entitled to everything in the game simply because it exist. You don’t need every commendation, and if you really want it, do what’s required to get it. Why shouldn’t there be commendations geared towards someone playing a certain way, and if you don’t play that way, why care?

    I think you didn't read it right.
    His problem are commendations, where he needs other pirates to play a certain way so he can complete them.
    He wants to do them but he cant, because players dont often use niche mechanics.
    How often does it happen that someone tucks on you?
    And how often do those players use disguises?
    How often do you get the chance to expose them, before they do it themselfes because you came to close?

    I personally would just ask other players if they can do certain things for me, but i get his point.

  • @dermasterbob said in Commendations that requires another players to play a specific way need to be one in done:

    @capt-greldik sagte in Commendations that requires another players to play a specific way need to be one in done:

    I think that a lot of people feel entitled to everything in the game simply because it exist. You don’t need every commendation, and if you really want it, do what’s required to get it. Why shouldn’t there be commendations geared towards someone playing a certain way, and if you don’t play that way, why care?

    I think you didn't read it right.
    His problem are commendations, where he needs other pirates to play a certain way so he can complete them.
    He wants to do them but he cant, because players dont often use niche mechanics.
    How often does it happen that someone tucks on you?
    And how often do those players use disguises?
    How often do you get the chance to expose them, before they do it themselfes because you came to close?

    I personally would just ask other players if they can do certain things for me, but i get his point.

    Fair enough, but people do these things, and my point is so what if it takes a long time to accomplish the commendation. How often do you see a shrouded ghost? Many would have it spawn more frequently but I appreciate that it’s special due to how rare it is. I don’t need the commendation now, or ever, but if I do get it it’s pretty significant.

  • @capt-greldik
    The Shrouded ghost is a terrible comparison.

    One was made to be the rarest thing on SoT and the other was meant to fit a season.

    You could compare it to generous gifts i guess, but they were originally completable within a day.

  • @dermasterbob I think a better comparison would the Sizzling Sinker Commendation, because it requires to sink the Burning Blade while other players to be crewing it multiple times, which at the time of it's lunch was very do-able but as time pass more people stopped doing the Burning Blade making player maned ones harder to find.

    Something that is funny that came to mind is the "envious envoys" Commendations was the prefect example, it was originally kill 25 Athena's Fortune Emissary player while manning the Burning Blade and wearing the Skeleton Curse and then Rare changed it to just one

  • @bigbadshadowman
    @Fry9889

    Yeah the 'kill a pirate with a trap' commendation was very misguided. The only way to get it was to cheese with a willing pirate when it would have been perfectly possible and enjoyable to use organically against PvE skeleton waves for example.

    Where possible the commendations should include PvE. Guess we should be glad the Cannon of Rage commendations can be completed with skelly ships!

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