Full(-ish) Feature Safer Seas

  • I know this is a hot topic and I have already read so many arguments against it, so I'm not going to have my mind changed, especially as this affects me a lot more than it does people who enjoy PvP. Please don't bother replying if you're going to purposely miss my points, etc.

    I bought Sea of Thieves before I knew this, but I have PTSD. I have 201 hours in it and play it with my girlfriend very often. However, I can't do PvP. At all. I can't even practice it. Combat (specifically with other players) sends me into a flight-or-fight mode and my version of that is freezing. With PvE, it's predictable and I am okay with times that I struggle with it. But when it's against real people, I can't do it. I physically freeze and I get adrenalized and begin to shake incredibly hard, I can't focus on the game and have to immediately quit. And it sucks. I know I will get told just to play a different game etc, that it was advertised as PvPvE, and I agree. But it sucks that I can't live the pirates' life, essentially. Pirates of the Caribbean was my favorite film franchise when I was younger and helped me cope with a lot of the awful things I went through. I used escapism as a coping mechanism and even now it helps me a ton. I love everything about PvE. I have gotten good at knowing when certain encounters may happen and the predictability of the PvE makes me feel confident playing a video game, which I struggle with. I love pirates, I love doing the treasure hunting and exploring islands and taking my time, I love sailing and immersing myself in the environment. I enjoy doing voyages for the different trading companies and tackling emergent world events when I feel empowered to do so. There's not a single other game like Sea of Thieves ANYWHERE. Everything else I've tried has left me feeling like I'm missing something. I don't play the game without my girlfriend, who is a pirate legend now and got into the game initially because of me, and has surpassed me in hours. My highest emissary level is maybe 30? And I can't get myself to pick up the game again when I'm so terrified of getting triggered by an unexpected hostile interaction with a real person. It's also frustrating that so many encounters end in me getting called nasty names by people who are obviously kids trying to have fun in their own way. I can't turn off either chat or hearing other people's voices because it risks my girlfriend losing out on experiences with other players, and I usually leave the game for things like that. I'm good on the cannons and my wife does the helm but that's only when I'm going against PvE. PvP I tend to physically cover my eyes and freak out. It's embarrassing and I hate the hurdles in place to just play a really, really good and immersive pirate game. It's like your favorite cake is behind a glass, waiting for you, but you have to except the rotten egg the baked mixed into it in order to even get a lick of the frosting.

    I enjoy Sea of Thieves for a different reason than other people and I acknowledge that. You enjoy the adrenalized feeling you get from selling in a high-stress environment, I feel physically sick when I see a boat in the distance and have to quit. I love the slow moments, I love foregoing the diving just to sail to my next experience because it's so fun navigating the world and feeling accomplished when I park the boat with impeccable timing. I am sad because in Safer Seas, I can't use my boat. I can't do the voyages I really enjoy because I'm one level above max. I just want the ability to play the game without risking getting triggered. I know I am responsible for my triggers, and that's why I haven't played the game in a month. But my girlfriend really misses having her swabbie and I miss being able to experience what I consider one of my favorite games.

    A full(-ish feature, minus PvP oriented things) would be so nice. I know of a lot of people who have quit the game entirely because they don't enjoy PvP and Safer Seas makes them feel like they're being shamed for not enjoying the combat experience against others. They'd probably be willing to come back and play (and pay!) if they actually got a chance to experience the game in a dignified way. I know it's just a pirate game, but I love pirates!

    Also, maybe in place of the PvP experience, Rare could consider adding a "Royal Navy" event or something like that. Add a PvE event capable of hunting you down or something like that, I'm not quite sure! But for me, it's the real people aspect that messes me up the most. I love predictability and enjoy the game that way. If others don't like it, then PvP players can stay playing with others who enjoy PvP, while us Safer Seas pirates could feel free to play our safe little pirate sandbox. Even just the option of a private server for more than just the content creators!

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  • Unfortunately safer seas is what it is and is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future.

  • Fighting against npc or players. It the same thing. Your fighting character.

    Besides that. SS is what it is they won’t change it.

  • You might not like to hear this, but maybe this game is not for you.

    It will always be PvPvE. You can use safer seas to enjoy the content, with less reward because you have no risk. High Seas there is a risk that you could be attacked because that is what makes Sea of Thieves unique. You can do low risk activities (no emissary for example) and likely not be bothered. I was going to recommend maybe check out alliance servers which are safer seas for the most part. However, there is a possibility that someone can get in there or betray the alliance. But you are at the point you see another ship and have to leave the game? I don't know if this even works for you either.

    There are other games out there that might be better aligned for where you are right now.

  • @burnbacon My mind doesn't see it as the same thing. Player controlled characters are unpredictable and the fact it's real people is what triggers my PTSD the most. PvE stuff is predictable if you do it enough.

  • @dank-jimb0 You're right, I don't like to hear it. PvE is a risk enough for me already, I lose to PvE encounters frequently. I don't even really care about the reward, I only care about the steps I have to take to get there, that's more enjoyable than getting gold.
    PvE is scary enough for me on its own but it's something I can manage because I can predict it. I don't want other games, they don't check the boxes the way SoT does. Stubborn, I know, but seriously no other game is as good as this one when I'm not triggered.

  • @tesiccl I know. I reached out to support about this and they told me to put it here however, which gave me hope that maybe they'd at least offer private servers with the option to turn PvP off or something like that.

  • @vlemonaade set your expectations low. I understand the predicament you’re in, but if you can seek outside help that may help with your PTSD, it might make other activities you enjoy doing, like gaming, better.

  • @tesiccl I appreciate the sentiment definitely and I am doing the best I can to get help outside ($$ issues) but for now I'm just lamenting my favorite game. Thank you.

  • I'm sorry that you experience such reactions when engaging in pvp
    You may be right, offering full safer seas and essentially private servers could potentially bring people in.
    However on the other hand, it could see people leave in droves. Let's be honest if you have the option of having full rewards with zero risk a large amount of the playerbase may choose this. It has the potential to see mixed servers dead and a dwindling playerbase. Bear in mind the inherent game design that rare have envisioned is a shared player environment with a mix of both pve and pvp. This is what the difficulty of everything in game has been designed around with these potential interactions in mind.

    I hope they don't ever change it. I'll happily admit I'm biased and enjoy pvp but I'm not about sinking noobs for the sake of feeling control. I enjoy fighting over loot where the value is set by everyone's desire to be the victor

  • Is there any way you can see this as just a game, and remind yourself that you have nothing to lose even if you sink? I mean, everyone sinks at one point or another, and there's an infinite amount of treasure in this game. Just because there's a ship on the horizon, doesn't mean you have to log off. A friend and I were stacking megs the other night, managed to kill 10 of them when we saw a sloop near us doing the seafort. I messaged them, saying we were friendly, we're just hunting megs and they didn't need to worry about us. They thanked us and left us alone. We stacked 5 more megs before calling it a night. Not a single ship on the server came over to us.

    It's been my experience that most players don't want to engage with you, it's the few out there who do that you just need to be observant of. Being 5 steps ahead of your possible opponent is key. My crew and I were doing a seafort minding our own business, when I spotted a brig coming towards our general area. While they dealt with the fort, I continued watching. The brig passed by us from a distance (probably thinking we were busy and didn't see them), then turned around. The moment that happened, I told my crew they were interested in us, and to get ready. We didn't even move the ship because we could tell how inexperienced they were lol. Guess they forgot the fort also has a lot of cannons on it, and we were already prepared by the time they turned around and came at us. Thing is, even if we had sunk, we would've lost nothing, as these forts take 5min to do, and at most we would've lost out on supplies. Oh no.

    Try not taking the game so seriously. Have fun with it, do some shananigans. When you're about to log off, sail over to another ship and ask them if they want your supplies. Even if they sink you, they'll still get your supplies LOL. The more fun you have in the game, perhaps the less stress you'll feel about it?

  • Ahoy! I understand the frustration and there should be no shame for playing Safer Seas if that's the option one chooses. At the current time, there isn't an option for those servers but your suggestion is noted!

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