One should not have to spend an unhealthy amount of time...

  • in the infinite pirate generator looking for their specific pirate.

    I've read the reasons the why devs chose to make character creation this way and I get it... sort of. There are some players that are perfectly content with closing their eyes and letting the pirate lord take the wheel when it comes to picking their character. There are others like myself however who are more particular with the character they want to play as and have sunk countless hours (hours that could be spent playing the game) mindlessly scrolling through pirates hoping they get the one they want.

    After I've sunk over 1000 hours of play-time into the game and know for a fact I want to play as semi burly white male with a hooked nose and furrowed brows because I like the way the beards and clothing look on him why must I sink countless hours (that could be spent playing the game) shuffling through aimlessly looking a pirates I know for a fact I want nothing to do with? In hopes that maybe I will stumble upon one that I might change my mind and play as instead?

    "Pirates are supposed to look goofy, scarred and a little asymmetrical" I get it and I want all those things too just in the way that I see fit not some AI spitting it out for me hoping I will say yes.

    I realize there is no profitability here and an updated or enhanced character creator that lets us use morph sliders for all the features on top of a base body is a big ask. It would take time away from other priorities like updated content.

    Just let me vent. It's all I have especially since an actual character creator will never come to fruition.

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  • Okay… what exactly is it that you want? They give you a pirate generator and it is your job to find your pirate in there. It takes a long time, yes, but to find the perfect pirate, it’s going to take time. If you’re not willing to spend a little time searching for your pirate, you can just pick one that looks good to you.

  • @xdragonman15558 said in One should not have to spend an unhealthy amount of time...:

    Okay… what exactly is it that you want? They give you a pirate generator and it is your job to find your pirate in there. It takes a long time, yes, but to find the perfect pirate, it’s going to take time. If you’re not willing to spend a little time searching for your pirate, you can just pick one that looks good to you.

    I can tell you exactly what I want. I want a tool that takes all those body types, facial features, scars, eye color etc & for them to put them into a normal character creator like all other games do and let us have full customization of our character.

    That's what I want.

    "If you’re not willing to spend a little time searching for your pirate, you can just pick one that looks good to you"

    Don't make me laugh buddy. I have spent over a week in my spare time looking for a specific character. This is countless hours of frustration built up that I am just spilling out on here. Don't talk to me about "taking the time".

    The cliche' just suck it up and pick a pirate is such a cop out response.

  • Ok, then why post if that’s what you expect?

  • Also, what’s the point in insulting me? Did I ever say anything about “sucking it up”. Trying to make me look like the bad guy huh? Those are your words, not mine, and if you’re just gonna be this kind of person, why don’t you go do it somewhere else, alright? This conversation is over.

  • @xdragonman15558 said in One should not have to spend an unhealthy amount of time...:

    Also, what’s the point in insulting me? Did I ever say anything about “sucking it up”. Trying to make me look like the bad guy huh? Those are your words, not mine, and if you’re just gonna be this kind of person, why don’t you go do it somewhere else, alright? This conversation is over.

    lol did you even read what you wrote?

    "This conversation is over"

    Ok bye

  • I'm sorry Admiral. As someone who's been in your shoes, I know your pain and frustration, even more so to the fact that they'll most-likely never change the way it is.

    I'm sorry.

  • @europa4033 said in One should not have to spend an unhealthy amount of time...:

    I'm sorry Admiral. As someone who's been in your shoes, I know your pain and frustration, even more so to the fact that they'll most-likely never change the way it is.

    I'm sorry.

    Thank you Europa I was beginning to think maybe I was the only person that played SoT who felt this way.

  • @admiral-shores

    Nah mate. You definitely ain't the only one. I'd also love a fully fledged character creator, and I've spent myself hours shuffling until I just settled with 1 out of 2 presets that I've saved. They were still not my perfect pick, only decent enough.

    Sadly, I doubt it's ever gonna change because this feature has been requested for years. What can we do, except moving on.

  • I agree some limited changes should be made to the IPG, but people who spend days in the wheel of fortune hoping to get one they want need to just pick one and log off.

  • One should not have to spend an unhealthy amount of time.

    in the infinite pirate generator looking for their specific pirate.

    That is the players problem. That like saying, "One shouldnt have to spend unhealthy amount of time waiting in line at the store..." Even if there are 6 open and unused Self checkouts, or fact you can Call and have your stuff delivered and never leave the house.

    It your choice how you go about it, and players..like yourself. Seem to have the need to spend hours doing this, instead of jumping into it.
    I always wonder, do these players not play awesome games that dont come with customization and pre-built ugly characters?

    I want to play as semi burly white male with a hooked nose and furrowed brows because I like the way the beards and clothing look on him

    How do you know what you look like 99% of the time? Until you do an emote, you never really see yourself.

    After I've sunk over 1000 hours of play-time into the game

    Notice you say this alot, what does this entitle you too?

  • @burnbacon said in One should not have to spend an unhealthy amount of time...:

    One should not have to spend an unhealthy amount of time.

    in the infinite pirate generator looking for their specific pirate.

    That is the players problem. That like saying, "One shouldnt have to spend unhealthy amount of time waiting in line at the store..." Even if there are 6 open and unused Self checkouts, or fact you can Call and have your stuff delivered and never leave the house.

    It your choice how you go about it, and players..like yourself. Seem to have the need to spend hours doing this, instead of jumping into it.
    I always wonder, do these players not play awesome games that dont come with customization and pre-built ugly characters?

    I want to play as semi burly white male with a hooked nose and furrowed brows because I like the way the beards and clothing look on him

    How do you know what you look like 99% of the time? Until you do an emote, you never really see yourself.

    After I've sunk over 1000 hours of play-time into the game

    Notice you say this alot, what does this entitle you too?

    What exactly were you trying to accomplish with this pointless response other than absolutely nothing at all?

    All you're doing is trying to belittle me like the typical SoT forum troll while attempting to look like a knight in shining armor to the forum moderators? If you disagree my post ignore it, instead of responding with whatever this was lol.

  • @admiral-shores We don't notice shiny knights don't worry about that! There's no favours here!

  • I have always been in favour of some filters for the IPG, but there should still be an element of randomness or all we'll have is a sea of models. Rare's design has always been around the pirates looking a bit goofy and wonky, not perfect and Insta-ready.

    But some filters to help speed up the process of finding a pirate close to what you want wouldn't hurt, IMO. I think there is a compromise between total control and the RNG we have now that would still maintain Rare's vision. Such as using the "favourited" pirates on the carousel to generate new pirates when it's refreshed.

    I will say though, even if your pirate isn't "perfect", you can still grow to love them and appreciate them for their uniqueness. My pirate isn't my ideal - he has weirdly wide shoulders and skinny legs, and a big nose - but I wouldn't ever re-roll him.

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  • Yeah I agree that there should be at least a male/female filter that would already greatly enhance the experience.
    The save a pirate is better then nothing, but the fact that it takes up a space in the roulette that would otherwise generate a free slot makes it annoying.

    , "One shouldnt have to spend unhealthy amount of time waiting in line at the store..." Even if there are 6 open and unused Self checkouts, or fact you can Call and have your stuff delivered and never leave the house.

    @BurnBacon I don't get how comparing standing in line at the grocery store/ordering grocery's vs choosing a pirate in a video game that is pure RNG with no filters, is a fair comparison. Even more with your weird analogy of having 6 self checkouts.
    There's nothing special with self-checkouts, people are going to use them to save time irl. IPG doesn't have that luxury, It makes ZERO sense unless your someone who actually doesn't give a about the IPG character look... and just wants to jump into the game ASAP. You might want to take that analogy back to the drawing board bud, you're reaching really hard for arguments sake...

    How do you know what you look like 99% of the time? Until you do an emote, you never really see yourself.

    SoT is a community game, and even has a fashion/SoT Shot contests endorsed by RARE themselves, but nah picking a pirate appearance isn't important because you don't see your own pirate unless you emote?
    Like ok??? What about the others in a game that likes to boast about communities and appearances playing a role in almost every aspect of the game? Artists, Roleplayers, even PvP fnactics have distinct favorites in pirate appearances. The fact that artists make money from commissions in making drawings of peoples pirates is telling in itself, in picking that perfect pirate for someone is important.

    I'm sorry but you just have a LOT of contradicting takes on these forums and you built a reputation of provoking people with snarky arguments. It really looks like you JUST HAVE TO disagree with everyone's post for the sake of dis-agreeing, it's really odd. You probably would be that guy that would HATE IT if someone suggested a save pirate option before it's implementation in the IPG megathread a few years back.
    A helpful feature that would make a lot of players happy and makes sense? Nah let's find something to nitpick with a not well thought out comparison/analogy. Classic.

    SoT's only ''reward'' system outside of commendations is the cosmetics. And having a complete IPG is 'odd' yet I like it because:
    Each pirate is unique. what I don't like is having to spend countless hours choosing a pirate that you can somewhat have a good time playing with. I know folks that have spent hours on it finding that perfect female pirate with the perfect symmetrical face. Others take a more sinister approach and use cheats to achieve that.

    It's also a snarky way for RARE to make a bit of pocket change when players have to pay ancient coins for an appearance potion, so they play into that mental aspect of people giving up in the moment and regretting later thus buying potions when they take the game more seriously...
    A few basic filters such as gender, skin tone and maybe age would go a long way, but keep everything else random.

  • A male/female toggle is all I would like to see as far as influencing pirate generation, as it would literally cut the time spent searching in half, while keeping all the uniqueness of the pirate generator (which I think is pretty cool).
    What I would really like is a way to change the pirate's clothes, check their teeth, change their poses, etc. With some of the poses you can't even get a forward facing view of the pirate lol, just awful.

  • @neon-ic0n

    I agree whole thing needs a revamp to be more coherent and visual friendly, WHILST as you mentioned, keeping the system IPG.

  • Most people only go through this process once and move on.

    Question for our OP;

    How often are you changing your character?

  • All you're doing is trying to belittle me like the typical SoT forum troll

    Not at all. Just pointing stuff out that many don’t consider or even attempt to think about. Post that request features never think of the other stuff, just the stuff that benefits themselves.

    Understandably. Response that doesn’t agree with the OP always comes off as a troll. Nobody likes to be disagreed with.

    If you disagree my post ignore it

    Works both ways kids. But you just told me not to throw in my own two cents on the subject. I disagree yes but that how conversations work.

    Not one person has said something why they need to change this which someone like myself who doesn’t see an issue, to change my mind.
    But maybe a male/female slider and from another post.

    • every time you fav a pirate and reroll, the next roll uses your fav pirate as what to make next.
  • @admiral-shores I'm almost certain "Pirate Generator Tool" will never happen, and I kind of agree with you.

    I wouldn't like total customizer with smallest details in it, but some filters like (for example): Gender, Weight (Fat, Muscular, Skinny) and Age (Young, Middle Age, Old) would be pretty cool.

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