Server Authoritative Hit Markers

Shouldn't be an option IMO either. Server side hit markers are the only way.

Should be the default, no arguments here.

Some pvp players would prefer to be able to complain about hitreg when they get the marker but find people don't die 😅

Exactly! People only care about the hits that actually did damage. And no one cares about the hits that they cant know if it did or didnt actually do anything just because its milliseconds faster to tell you that you landed a hit that may not have actually landed.

Data that is barely faster but unreliable and inaccurate is useless, and no one on earth wants to think they landed a hit only to be wrong.

It is because a good number of folks would get confused when they hit something, then a second later they get the marker.

@reverend-toast said in Server Authoritative Hit Markers:

It is because a good number of folks would get confused when they hit something, then a second later they get the marker.

Its barely a second at most, it takes only the amount of time that it takes for your shot to land on your end, for the data to send to the server, and for the server to send back whether it agrees or disagrees. Its such a minimal delay that you can barely even notice there is a delay at all. As opposed to thinking you hit something instantly only to fire 3 more shots all claiming to register, only for nothing to happen.

Its really an obvious choice to me, not knowing any better than if you had no hit markers at all, or a minimal delay. The setting really might as well just be no hit markers or server hit markers with how accurate client side option is.

@goldsmen You need to keep in mind that this game isn't just for hardcore players. Server Authenticated Hit Markers are a thing the hardcore players want, but not necessarily one the majority do.

I agree that the server side hit markers should be on by default. I think they're just significantly better to have in most cases and the delay isn't really that much.

There’s also the issue that melee hit feedback is still unreliable because melee hits don’t give a hit marker (except on a kill). That can be very frustrating to players.

My suggestion would be to give melee hits hit markers and to make all hit markers server authoritative (either by default or remove the “lie to me” option entirely).

The way most games would handle "hit markers" for melee hits is to have the enemy flash when hit or some other visual cue. SoT does have the enemy flinch but it's not always super obvious or accurate, and I do agree there should be some better, more reliable, indication.

@reverend-toast said in Server Authoritative Hit Markers:

@goldsmen You need to keep in mind that this game isn't just for hardcore players. Server Authenticated Hit Markers are a thing the hardcore players want, but not necessarily one the majority do.

Its not about hard core or not, its about something that works vs something that is no more effect than having it off entirely. Something that is faster but as accurate as having nothing isnt a casual friendly feature, because its just as bad as no feature at all.

Im no hard core player, i mostly sail around and chill while doing pve, and only deal with pvp as it comes my way, and for both pve and pvp the client side markers are useless and frustrating, and the less than second delay of server side has not been confusing to me.

@d3adst1ck

Yeah, you are most likely correct. I've often taken damage from a staggered skelly as well. Hence, why I said it's not accurate.