Community Events Suck

The game of SoT is adventure and navigating adventure is the same as navigating life.

If you carry grudges from the past to the present it'll diminish the opportunity of the future.

You're not wrong for having feelings about experiences and you're not wrong if you decide to walk away from SoT. It won't work out if you carry strong negative opinions about others into your next session. You'll spend the whole time trying to convince yourself that you are right rather than just seeing what happens and making the best out of the unique experience.

If you look for the moments to appreciate, if you're confident in your own kindness, if you let go of what weighs you down, you'll be alright.

Like anything, it takes practice, consistency, commitment, belief.

and if you try that out and it's still not enough, at least you can say that you gave it your best before you decided it isn't a compatible environment for you to adventure in.

I can confirm the community is full of kids who have played enough of this game to bully people... and they enjoy doing that. I just spent hours in an alliance gathering loot and a good 20 minutes or so gathering loot from some skelly ships before that... and as soon as we finished the FoF and we get all the loot loaded onto my ship a keg blows up and the people from the alliance (a brig with 3 experienced people) killed me and spammed rolls on deck laughing. People are terrible human beings in this game... Why did rare make it so you can attack your allies? They seem to have setup a scenario where people think that's okay. Not sure if it's streamers pushing this or what but you're killing the game for me that's for sure.

I like the game... but the community really makes me hate it. I talked to them afterwards and they just say the same old garbage excuse "It's called sea of thieves" and "it's just a game"... No one cares that they just ate up hours of my time gathering loot for them to steal for no reason at all other than to be a piece of garbage. We're literally incentivized to make alliances and I will not do that again. Half the time when I run open crew the people just load my stuff into a storage crate and toss it overboard when I'm not looking... and then leave... People are just plain terrible. I may just play safer seas from now on... I can't deal with these people and their broken moral compasses.

Devs could fix this and actually encourage good behavior but they don't... catering to bullies in a video game. I can't run emissary flag.. I can't do world events without being attacked by someone... Do they even realize what a horrible experience they are putting less experienced players through?

@dustin3244 said in Community Events Suck:

People are terrible human beings in this game...

for no reason at all other than to be a piece of garbage.

People are just plain terrible.

I can't deal with these people and their broken moral compasses.

Is it morally sound to label others so harshly in a random environment where most players aren't even hostile pirates?

to paint people as bad people over gameplay preferences?

to dehumanize others while claiming moral superiority?

@wolfmanbush My opinion is based on my experiences in the game. I've never met anyone the entire time I've played this game who wasn't trying to sink me or trick me into thinking they're friendly so they can sink me later. I quit playing this game for around a year and I came back to find the behavior of everyone in the community seems worse. I've had two play sessions recently and both times I left the game with less gold than I came in with.

Yes it is morally sound to label people as terrible human beings based on their terrible behavior. I have never, not in my last two sessions which were recent... and not in the entire time I played the game around a year ago have I ever met someone who didn't either try and sink me or try and trick me into thinking they're friendly so they can sink me. Literally never has happened to me. So I'd like to know where you found this data because it doesn't seem to be supported by the reality that I see every time I play.

Bullying someone because you're on a brig with 3 people and I'm on a solo sloop trying to have a good experience isn't a gameplay preference.. that's beyond rude and cruel.. It's terrible behavior.

I didn't dehumaize anyone.. Not calling out behavior like this will kill off what's left of this game's player base. That's why hourglass has an average wait time of 30 minutes and at least half the people playing are just loss farming. I'm the one being dehumanized by people claiming the name of the game means they not only can but should be as cruel and inconsiderate as possible. Bullying me because I'm inexperienced and alone is terrible behavior... the kind of behavior you'd see from terrible human beings with a broken moral compass.

I've got a boatload of stories of absolutely horrible experiences from this game and 0 of these mythical non hostile pirates you speak of.

@dustin3244 said in Community Events Suck:

@wolfmanbush My opinion is based on my experiences in the game. I've never met anyone the entire time I've played this game who wasn't trying to sink me or trick me into thinking they're friendly so they can sink me later. I quit playing this game for around a year and I came back to find the behavior of everyone in the community seems worse. I've had two play sessions recently and both times I left the game with less gold than I came in with.

Yes it is morally sound to label people as terrible human beings based on their terrible behavior. I have never, not in my last two sessions which were recent... and not in the entire time I played the game around a year ago have I ever met someone who didn't either try and sink me or try and trick me into thinking they're friendly so they can sink me. Literally never has happened to me. So I'd like to know where you found this data because it doesn't seem to be supported by the reality that I see every time I play.

Bullying someone because you're on a brig with 3 people and I'm on a solo sloop trying to have a good experience isn't a gameplay preference.. that's beyond rude and cruel.. It's terrible behavior.

I didn't dehumaize anyone.. Not calling out behavior like this will kill off what's left of this game's player base. That's why hourglass has an average wait time of 30 minutes and at least half the people playing are just loss farming. I'm the one being dehumanized by people claiming the name of the game means they not only can but should be as cruel and inconsiderate as possible. Bullying me because I'm inexperienced and alone is terrible behavior... the kind of behavior you'd see from terrible human beings with a broken moral compass.

I've got a boatload of stories of absolutely horrible experiences from this game and 0 of these mythical non hostile pirates you speak of.

If you see yourself as a victim of gameplay you will never enjoy the experience and you will never put yourself in situations to adapt and thrive in an adventure game that you can do very well at.

I understand the frustrations. I've spent most of my time in the game solo and all of it playing organically. It can be unpleasant at times, especially early on. I get that.

You will never control others, they are free to do what they do. An unwinnable battle you are fighting.

You do get to choose your actions though, your outlook, your conduct towards others, your effort. That's where there is opportunity for you to improve your situation for yourself.

I believe that we find what we want to find and we set ourselves up to succeed or fail by how we approach adventure. If people want to find negative things about others they will make sure that happens. If people want to find the silver lining and optimism in the moment they will find it.

You are not at fault for what others have done to you in random situations but you are responsible for your sessions, your decisions, your conduct.

My personal opinion based on your posts and my experience around others is that you likely contribute significantly to escalation. That doesn't mean you deserve any mistreatment that you have faced randomly. The way to improve your situation would be to focus on how to set yourself up for better chances of peace of mind and finding ways to avoid escalating towards/with others and when you reflect on your experiences.

was getting worried yesterday because no one was around. Picked up the Siren's Song chest for more visibility. Noticed someone doing the fleet. Sailed over and picked up the alliance. Left to go finish the Siren's Skull, noticed he got the double galley for his last stage, had to go help. Finished the gallys off and we went our separate ways.

People are having good experiences.

@wolfmanbush I'm the friendliest pirate you'll ever see on the waters buddy. Your argument is flawed. I don't deserve it but I cause it by being me? That's nuttier than squirrel feces. I'll be going now.. Have a good day.

@dustin3244 said in Community Events Suck:

@wolfmanbush I'm the friendliest pirate you'll ever see on the waters buddy. Your argument is flawed. I don't deserve it but I cause it by being me? That's nuttier than squirrel feces. I'll be going now.. Have a good day.

I'm not in the judging business. I give advice to try to help out, based on a lot of experience.

I didn't say anything in this thread based on judgement against you. I've been in situations where I felt like a lot of things were happening to me and over time I got to a point where I could see what I was contributing to. That's when things improved for me.

I think things can improve for you too.

@drivenapollo293

Question for the class:

Does anyone here think that SoT was NOT designed to foster players fighting over loot? Big event clouds in the sky, markers on the map for various things, the ability to attack anyone anywhere at anytime. Any lightbulbs going off?

Fighting over loot, as far as I can tell, is the main event of the game, yet constantly I see people upset about someone fighting them for their loot. My all-time favorite complaint is the one where someone’s mad about being sunk when they have no loot at all; in this scenario they lost nothing (according to them, supplies are indeed something but the argument is always that someone was mean for sinking them when they have “nothing”) and got a brand new ship with supplies quickly after sinking.

Do people still not understand the intent of this game?

With all that said, I found the alliance incentive event amusing myself and didn’t even know what to expect from it. One thing worth noting is that gold is not important to many people, but commendations, faction allegiance, and so on still are. So joining an alliance for a gold bonus does next to nothing for me, as I have a lot of gold. In other words, this event is not meaningful for everyone, in fact I’d say that most people who regularly play the game do not have much of a need for extra gold. I’m not saying the event is pointless and shouldn’t have happened, I’m just pointing out that not every pirate is going to care about extra gold from an alliance, and it’s not their job or responsibility to care.

@dustin3244 said in Community Events Suck:

@wolfmanbush My opinion is based on my experiences in the game. I've never met anyone the entire time I've played this game who wasn't trying to sink me or trick me into thinking they're friendly so they can sink me later. I quit playing this game for around a year and I came back to find the behavior of everyone in the community seems worse. I've had two play sessions recently and both times I left the game with less gold than I came in with.

Yes it is morally sound to label people as terrible human beings based on their terrible behavior. I have never, not in my last two sessions which were recent... and not in the entire time I played the game around a year ago have I ever met someone who didn't either try and sink me or try and trick me into thinking they're friendly so they can sink me. Literally never has happened to me. So I'd like to know where you found this data because it doesn't seem to be supported by the reality that I see every time I play.

Bullying someone because you're on a brig with 3 people and I'm on a solo sloop trying to have a good experience isn't a gameplay preference.. that's beyond rude and cruel.. It's terrible behavior.

I didn't dehumaize anyone.. Not calling out behavior like this will kill off what's left of this game's player base. That's why hourglass has an average wait time of 30 minutes and at least half the people playing are just loss farming. I'm the one being dehumanized by people claiming the name of the game means they not only can but should be as cruel and inconsiderate as possible. Bullying me because I'm inexperienced and alone is terrible behavior... the kind of behavior you'd see from terrible human beings with a broken moral compass.

I've got a boatload of stories of absolutely horrible experiences from this game and 0 of these mythical non hostile pirates you speak of.

You must be in a different region than I am, because HG queues on NA servers are fast. Perhaps your region has a slow queue due to other factors, such as the amount of people playing, and not because everyone is a “terrible human being”.

Also, for the record, as an avid HG participant I can confidently say that the manners in HG matches are FAR more cordial than what I’ve experienced on the High Seas. What I can also confidently say is that in my experience, the most toxic players are those who are mad at me for attacking them at an event meant to be fought over.

In HG, you’ll typically see GG or well played, or nothing at all. There are a lot of pirates with a sense of entitlement on the High Seas, however.

Jeez all I found was newbies who didn't know how to raise alliance flags and this guy got all the action.