Option in Gameplay Settings to Turn off Hourglass.

@eligibleeel6171

There have been multiple occasions where I have accidentally activated the hourglass.

Then be more careful. Rare doesn’t need to create an option in settings because your carelessness causes you to make mistakes.

I think a confirm to vote for HG on solo ships should be a thing. That would fix all of this.

There have been multiple occasions where I have accidentally activated the hourglass

I’ll never fully understand how you accidentally hold the button down….

@burnbacon because I have mine set to not have to hold to interact 🤷🏼‍♂️

I personally have only done this 2-3 times but it’s definitely not the most pleasant way to find yourself in HG.

Pair that with you CANNOT vote it down for 15 minutes.

Imagine you hate pvp. You stock the ship, or better yet have been playing for hours and have a ton of supps and decent loot. You go to toss a quest down and the game in all its perfectly running ways votes for HG instead. Now you have 15 minutes until you can vote it down…. Only at an outpost. So this player had the game decide he was to do HG L, then couldn’t vote it down, gets invaded by giga chads taking all his stuff. All because the game thought he was looking at the Hourglass not the quest table.

@mikey1339 you’ve got to understand too that not every game is for everybody. SoT was made with a core play style at heart, and that’s crew interaction with the potential to fight. Of course they can offer accessibility options in to help as many as possible, but without compromising the core of the game.

One day they might bring in more ship availability into Safer Seas, but i wouldn’t put hope on it.

For a long time I was in the camp of "this is an unnecessary ask for a fringe problem".........

Then one day I was going to do some quiet solo slooping, got a banger of an outpost where supplies are concerned, raised my emissary, and went to throw down a voyage.......only to hit the hourglass and not back off in time. Couldn't even vote it down because of the 15 minute cooldown. Ended up just leaving the server and rerolled the ship, but it stung to lose my time and supplies.

I think this would be a nice QoL feature to implement. Those of us that play with the "reduce hold to interact" option enabled would greatly appreciate it.

The hourglass is a hold to activate interaction. If you are accidentally activating it then either you are holding interact when you shouldnt, or you turned on one of the worst accessibility settings this game offers.

@goldsmen said in Option in Gameplay Settings to Turn off Hourglass.:

you turned on one of the worst accessibility settings this game offers.

Well that's subjective. I've played with this option for over six years. It makes the game much more enjoyable for me.

@eligibleeel6171 controller and I’m just patient when selecting what’s on the table. Easy enough.

You do end up matching with folks who didnt realize it had been turned on every now and then.

I pedsonally dont think its really neccesary, but another option would be to put the hourglass behind something that requires you to open it first, or deploy it somehow.

So its either in a box/cage etc, or otherwise disengaged and you have to turn it on per se before you could vote or spin it. There would be a visual component.

Hell it could just be dark, and interacting with it makes it light up the way it is currently. Something visual to show youve done something.

Again; I dont REALLY think its neccesary, but trying to make suggestions

@eligibleeel6171 said in Option in Gameplay Settings to Turn off Hourglass.:

@goldsmen if you are referring to "reduce hold to interact" I do have that turned on. Can I ask why it's one of the worst accessibility settings the game offers? (If that is the setting you're talking about. If you're talking about a different setting, I'm still very interested to know which one and why it's bad.)

In case it's relevant or of interest, my reasons for having it turned on are:

1. So that I can continue to move freely while interacting (for example if I want to drop my oponents anchor, I can still use both thumbsticks to move around and continue looking at the prompt).

2. It allows me to use the right thumbstick to aim cannons which keeps it consistent with aiming other weapons and moving around. If I turn the setting off, I either have to use left thumbstick to aim cannons (which is different to every other aspect of the game, meaning I have to mentally adjust every time I jump on or off cannons), or I have to hold y down with my index finger (which I find awkward), or I have to wait till the cannon is reloaded before I can start aiming my next shot.

I am open to feedback/ advice on the above (or anything) if you think I could improve my performance by changing/ relearning certain aspects of the game.

Reason its bad is because it has no real way to cancel once you start to do something. Something set up how it is on here is fine for a single player game, but as it is now i have seen numerous posts asking them to move or add a confirm option to things because it ends up messing things up for people.

I think just the fact that there have been many posts over time asking to change stuff only because that setting is on is proof in and of its self that its bad and not done right and one of the worst options this game has to offer. A good accessability setting wont have different people independently complaining about the same problems it causes.

@goldsmen said in Option in Gameplay Settings to Turn off Hourglass.:

@eligibleeel6171 said in Option in Gameplay Settings to Turn off Hourglass.:

@goldsmen if you are referring to "reduce hold to interact" I do have that turned on. Can I ask why it's one of the worst accessibility settings the game offers? (If that is the setting you're talking about. If you're talking about a different setting, I'm still very interested to know which one and why it's bad.)

In case it's relevant or of interest, my reasons for having it turned on are:

1. So that I can continue to move freely while interacting (for example if I want to drop my oponents anchor, I can still use both thumbsticks to move around and continue looking at the prompt).

2. It allows me to use the right thumbstick to aim cannons which keeps it consistent with aiming other weapons and moving around. If I turn the setting off, I either have to use left thumbstick to aim cannons (which is different to every other aspect of the game, meaning I have to mentally adjust every time I jump on or off cannons), or I have to hold y down with my index finger (which I find awkward), or I have to wait till the cannon is reloaded before I can start aiming my next shot.

I am open to feedback/ advice on the above (or anything) if you think I could improve my performance by changing/ relearning certain aspects of the game.

Reason its bad is because it has no real way to cancel once you start to do something. Something set up how it is on here is fine for a single player game, but as it is now i have seen numerous posts asking them to move or add a confirm option to things because it ends up messing things up for people.

I think just the fact that there have been many posts over time asking to change stuff only because that setting is on is proof in and of its self that its bad and not done right and one of the worst options this game has to offer. A good accessability setting wont have different people independently complaining about the same problems it causes.

It's under accessability setting for a reason: AFAIK it's there for people who have issues with having to press a button for some time to help them play the game.
If it then gets used by other people so they feel they have a benefit in some situations but also have issues when confronted with its applications doesn't IMHO not make it a bad implementation.

@lem0n-curry said in Option in Gameplay Settings to Turn off Hourglass.:

@goldsmen said in Option in Gameplay Settings to Turn off Hourglass.:

@eligibleeel6171 said in Option in Gameplay Settings to Turn off Hourglass.:

@goldsmen if you are referring to "reduce hold to interact" I do have that turned on. Can I ask why it's one of the worst accessibility settings the game offers? (If that is the setting you're talking about. If you're talking about a different setting, I'm still very interested to know which one and why it's bad.)

In case it's relevant or of interest, my reasons for having it turned on are:

1. So that I can continue to move freely while interacting (for example if I want to drop my oponents anchor, I can still use both thumbsticks to move around and continue looking at the prompt).

2. It allows me to use the right thumbstick to aim cannons which keeps it consistent with aiming other weapons and moving around. If I turn the setting off, I either have to use left thumbstick to aim cannons (which is different to every other aspect of the game, meaning I have to mentally adjust every time I jump on or off cannons), or I have to hold y down with my index finger (which I find awkward), or I have to wait till the cannon is reloaded before I can start aiming my next shot.

I am open to feedback/ advice on the above (or anything) if you think I could improve my performance by changing/ relearning certain aspects of the game.

Reason its bad is because it has no real way to cancel once you start to do something. Something set up how it is on here is fine for a single player game, but as it is now i have seen numerous posts asking them to move or add a confirm option to things because it ends up messing things up for people.

I think just the fact that there have been many posts over time asking to change stuff only because that setting is on is proof in and of its self that its bad and not done right and one of the worst options this game has to offer. A good accessability setting wont have different people independently complaining about the same problems it causes.

It's under accessability setting for a reason: AFAIK it's there for people who have issues with having to press a button for some time to help them play the game.
If it then gets used by other people so they feel they have a benefit in some situations but also have issues when confronted with its applications doesn't IMHO not make it a bad implementation.

I do get that first bit, but my point is not that it should not be an accessibility setting, it absolutely should be a setting, but its just implemented horribly considering i never hear people have the same issue with it off. Not a single person has accidentally turned on hourglass with hold to interact other than new players who just dont read what they are pressing.

So this is an issue that only arises because it was implemented badly. A well made accessibility setting would not come with an issue that has only been brought up by people who use it. Accessability should make it so people are on an even playing field, and they could have made it a confirmation option for some areas. Or alternitively if you press something accidentally you can press again before the hold time completes in order to cancel it.

If they did one of those 2 things in a few areas it would be well implemented, but the number of people i have heard accidentally start hourglass, accidentally lower limited voyages, or accidentally drop their emissary only because of this 1 setting really shows a glairing issue with it, since with it off its not remotely as easy to accidentally do.

@eligibleeel6171 said in Option in Gameplay Settings to Turn off Hourglass.:

@goldsmen I think I misunderstood you initially. When you said "You turned on one of the worst accessibility settings" I interpreted that as you saying that this is my fault and I should just turn the setting off.

But it sounds like you were actually just providing context and making a comment on the setting itself, and that my experience is further evidence that this setting should be updated or better implemented.

If so, I think I would agree with you. Being able to tap 'B' to cancel the interact would be considerably easier than (for example) trying to quickly turn away from the prompt, or letting go of a cannon and grabbing on to it again.

Not at all your fault, its just a horribly designed setting. Though i have seen some youtubers tell people to turn it on to make the game easier, and there was an influx of complaints about accidentally doing stuff because of it.

A lot of games with the same setting have it as a confirm to interact thing, or let you cancel in some way. If anything this entire issue is on rare especially since the setting makes it worse for people who may actually need it.