Horn of Fair Winds - Less RNG. More Guarantee.

  • Yesterday:
    1 shrine
    1 treasury
    4 shipwrecks
    1 Horn (in a shipwreck)

    Today:
    1 shrine
    2 treasuries
    3 shipwrecks
    0 Horns

    Just putting those sessions out as an example...

    The low level of RNG is absolutely ridiculous. I don't so much care about the commendation for turning them in. This is more about the fact that you introduced a hilarious and fun tool into the sandbox and it's virtually nonexistent.

    I see no harm in making them guarantees for completing treasuries, and making them guarantees at the end of some of the longer shrines. Leave them as RNG in shipwrecks, sure. But making the RNG be wildly low across all of the avenues to get them is just silly.

    Again, you brought a fun toy to the sandbox...why on earth do you not want us to play with it?

    The combination of the low RNG and the high commendation requirement results in virtually nobody having fun with the tool...and instead just racing to turn it in.

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  • I still haven't found one .....

    I don't have a problem with RNG. Just that the commendations attached are off.

  • Maybe it could be a bottle quest for sunken kingdoms, and instead of the breath of the sea a wind shell could sit there at the end.

  • @sweetsandman Well right now on any given server. Horns will spawn in 2 shrines and only those 2 shrines, 1 and only 1 treasury, and random shipwrecks. The easiest way to farm them is to just dive to sea bound soul, check shrine of flooded embrace, if horn sell, if no horn repeat. This method has led to many horns. It would be way more fun if they were in truely random place, parts of world event loot as a chance. Also the commendation being 250 is painful.

    EDIT: As of Patch 3.0.1 on May 22, 2024 this method is no longer viable.

  • Such a powerful item, that "prevents" boarders or enemies from staying on your ship, SHOULD remain as it is.

  • @burnbacon mean easy to exploit and grind on spot in way that hinders eny reason to try to organicly find them and use them for fun.

    Sure thing, they should stay as they are.

  • @captain-coel

    I'm not worried about farming them for the 250 commendation.

    I'm concerned that they gave us something FUN to play with after a long hiatus...and then nobody gets to actually play with it and have fun. What was the point?

    Do I think the commendation is a bit outrageous given that they are as rare an item as they are? Sure. But that's secondary to the sandbox not really getting the fun new tool we were expecting...

  • Increase the spawns

  • Up up up

    So damn true.

    Please, they have to read you and understand that !

  • @sweetsandman

    I totally agree with your opinion.

    For me it's very frustrating because like you said it's an amazing tool but when i'm playing with my friends we jump on server for make some Fort of Fortune, pvp on adventure mode and the fact that we can find the horn only on shrine and shipwrecks, we have difficulty to make match our session goal and find some horn. (I really want to bump my friend off the ship more often).

  • @burnbacon said in Horn of Fair Winds - Less RNG. More Guarantee.:

    Such a powerful item, that "prevents" boarders or enemies from staying on your ship, SHOULD remain as it is.

    It is a powerful tool, but it should be attainable by the average player fairly reasonably still.

    Considering the fact that there are people who play the game a lot more than the average player who still have yet to find one by naturally finding or stealing it, i would argue that it not very reasonable to attain for the average player.

  • And now they've patched the consistent farming method 😅

  • Of course they patch the only way to get horns consistently. I’m sick and tired of the way they treat their milestones and commendations. Make them as grindy and tiresome as possible to continue milking hours from the player base. 250 horns is egregious and unnecessary based on the rarity of them. Should be 25-50 tops. And of course they unlocked an arena cosmetic behind them so they know they can have players spend years trying to complete the commendation. Unreal…

  • @mangopuffs said in Horn of Fair Winds - Less RNG. More Guarantee.:

    Of course they patch the only way to get horns consistently. I’m sick and tired of the way they treat their milestones and commendations. Make them as grindy and tiresome as possible to continue milking hours from the player base. 250 horns is egregious and unnecessary based on the rarity of them. Should be 25-50 tops. And of course they unlocked an arena cosmetic behind them so they know they can have players spend years trying to complete the commendation. Unreal…

    250 wouldn't be so bad if EVERY treasury completion guaranteed a horn and most shrine completions guaranteed a horn (not looking at you Flooded Embrace).

  • @sweetsandman that’d be reasonable yet here we are and that doesn’t seem to be their plan for these horns. Even their own partners seem to be in agreement that the rng for them needs to drastically change. Yet some more feedback from the community totally ignored…

  • @mangopuffs I still don't think 250 would be reasonable. 50 should be the maximum for something that is only found in a specific area.

    Unless they want these things to be set at a frequency similar to barnacle chests they need to readjust the requirements for the commendations.

  • @d3adst1ck at the end of the day I just hope that their mentality around commendations changes. It should be about fun activities that are unique and interesting and make sense based on the related update. Not going into it with the mindset of “how can we make sure these take x amount of days, months, years to complete so we get maximum play hours for this season”

  • I have done a few treasuries, stop at every shipwreck I come across and still not a single horn. At this rate the servers will be taken down before I get anywhere near selling 250.

  • @europa4033

    Maybe just one in each Treasury as a guaranteed drop? That way it requires a little effort to get it instead of just dropping one in your lap with a quick Shrine visit (loooking at you, Flooded Embrace). I feel like it would be too easily farmable if there was one in each Shrine as well.

    That's three horns per map at any given time instead of nine. Still Rare enough, pun intended, to be coveted and still a grind for comms (obviously a goal for the devs), but not so easily farmable that everyone has 50 of them on board (like we used to with Tridents) to screw up the PvP/HG balance and negatively impact the meta.

  • @thegrimpreacher

    I like that idea. Have them as a guaranteed drop in treasuries. Also, lower the achievement reqs. Make it 50.

  • Today...
    All 3 Treasuries on the server
    4 shipwrecks
    1 shrine for good measure
    ZERO horns

    Why even bother introducing a new toy to the sandbox if nobody gets to play with it?

  • I one hundred percent agree with you Why would they Spend months developing such a fun Sandbox tool then not let us use it. absolute waste. and the commendation is absolutely absurd for such a low spawnrate item

  • @sweetsandman said:

    Why even bother introducing a new toy to the sandbox if nobody gets to play with it?

    I say make them guaranteed for treasuries, common in shrines, rare in wrecks, then nerf their max charge & turn-in value.

  • @theblackbellamy said in Horn of Fair Winds - Less RNG. More Guarantee.:

    @sweetsandman said:

    Why even bother introducing a new toy to the sandbox if nobody gets to play with it?

    I say make them guaranteed for treasuries, common in shrines, rare in wrecks, then nerf their max charge & turn-in value.

    That's perfect.

    The value of it didn't even need to be that high to begin with. I'm not saying make it as easy to get as a Trident of Dark Tides, but man these things are comically unattainable. I'm hoping that it's a bug or something and that they didn't actually mean to make these this rare.

  • I sure do hope that with the commendation nerf coming next week that they don't think that the RNG for the horn should remain untouched. It still needs a significant bump in spawn rate.

    LET US FIND THIS THING AND HAVE FUN WITH IT!

  • @captain-coel said in Horn of Fair Winds - Less RNG. More Guarantee.:

    @sweetsandman Well right now on any given server. Horns will spawn in 2 shrines and only those 2 shrines, 1 and only 1 treasury, and random shipwrecks. The easiest way to farm them is to just dive to sea bound soul, check shrine of flooded embrace, if horn sell, if no horn repeat. This method has led to many horns. It would be way more fun if they were in truely random place, parts of world event loot as a chance. Also the commendation being 250 is painful.

    I tested this method. I repeated 6 times and never got a single horn. For this reason, it is not a viable method. Can someone confirm if the devs updated it to make the horn not able to spawn in this particular shrine?

  • @sweetsandman said in Horn of Fair Winds - Less RNG. More Guarantee.:

    Today...
    All 3 Treasuries on the server
    4 shipwrecks
    1 shrine for good measure
    ZERO horns

    Why even bother introducing a new toy to the sandbox if nobody gets to play with it?

    That's shocking. I feel your pain entirely.

  • @loch1907 said in Horn of Fair Winds - Less RNG. More Guarantee.:

    @captain-coel said in Horn of Fair Winds - Less RNG. More Guarantee.:

    @sweetsandman Well right now on any given server. Horns will spawn in 2 shrines and only those 2 shrines, 1 and only 1 treasury, and random shipwrecks. The easiest way to farm them is to just dive to sea bound soul, check shrine of flooded embrace, if horn sell, if no horn repeat. This method has led to many horns. It would be way more fun if they were in truely random place, parts of world event loot as a chance. Also the commendation being 250 is painful.

    I tested this method. I repeated 6 times and never got a single horn. For this reason, it is not a viable method. Can someone confirm if the devs updated it to make the horn not able to spawn in this particular shrine?

    Can confirm they patched HOW they spawn on a given server...but they definitely spawn in the flooded embrace still. It's just RNG.

    Hindsight, I should've spammed the "exploit" when it was still in the game... mostly because I have this sinking feeling they aren't going to buff the spawn rates next week.

  • @loch1907 said in Horn of Fair Winds - Less RNG. More Guarantee.:

    @captain-coel said in Horn of Fair Winds - Less RNG. More Guarantee.:

    @sweetsandman Well right now on any given server. Horns will spawn in 2 shrines and only those 2 shrines, 1 and only 1 treasury, and random shipwrecks. The easiest way to farm them is to just dive to sea bound soul, check shrine of flooded embrace, if horn sell, if no horn repeat. This method has led to many horns. It would be way more fun if they were in truely random place, parts of world event loot as a chance. Also the commendation being 250 is painful.

    I tested this method. I repeated 6 times and never got a single horn. For this reason, it is not a viable method. Can someone confirm if the devs updated it to make the horn not able to spawn in this particular shrine?

    They patched it after I posted. I can add an edit for anyone who finds it in the future. When I was grinding before that update I could find a horn every 16 minutes. Since the update I've found 1 horn in a shipwreck but I have stopped checking shrines.

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