Bone Caller are so broken

It's another tool in arsenal we have to adapt to, have you tried using them yourself?

@hiradc They are so rare I couldn't find in my outposts, and I don't want to sail to a skeleton fort. After I sink or when I start I want to dive istantly. Also some times you're too busy bucketing you can't use them

@drackhon8528 i know some hardcore sweats and these unwritten rules make me laugh! Be a pirate.

I always scoffed at crewmates saying 'no curseballs' in HG. Honorable conduct in a pirate game, go figure. You're trying to kill the other crew, sink their boat, and take all their stuff.

Act like it.

(non-toxically of course)

They aren't that common on outposts - it seems hit or miss if you even find one. They spawn more frequently on forts and in shipwrecks. From my experience, I usually find 1-3 on a fort, and sometimes as many as 5 or 6 in a shipwrecks. This includes Lost Shipment wrecks, so you can kind of farm these (albeit with a good bit of sailing).

The only issue I really have with these (and it doesn't apply to solo HG) is that they are only limited to crewmates not ships in terms of how many you can spawn at a time.

On the plus side, at least they grouped them with firebombs and blunderbombs in your pockets.

For those who don't know there's an unwritten rule that pirates don't use curse balls in hourglass, some people follow it some don't. But it is a rare chance and it's not the same scale of people using Bone Callers. Today I had 5 solo fights and 4 of them I met people using bone callers on my boat.

lol that was never a thing, you've been memed on

These unwritten rules are hilarious (and are mostly only taken seriously in the streamer vs streamer fights).

All those "rules" do is make fights last way longer than they need to and force an otherwise even matchup to come down to who gets negatively impacted by bad server performance first.

Bring back the generous spawn rates of curses and up the spawns on bone callers.

Stop limiting the tools (especially the new ones) to just the people who spend hours on servers foraging for them.

You know that you can use them too, right? They aren't THAT rare. There's usually at least one in outpost barrels, otherwise they're plentiful at forts.

Also, not to be like this, but literally no one besides the sweats that come up with those silly, unspoken rules, subscribe to them. Like them or hate them, bonecallers are a tool provided to us to use. If PvP players are fine with animation cancels, etc to improve their gameplay, then others using cursed cannonballs, blunderbombs, firebombs, wraith balls, and bonecallers are also acceptable.

@sweetsandman Every time I see someone clamoring for these PvP unspoken rules to be hindered to, I just laugh.

I don't play hourglass/don't PvP to be honorable or whatever. I do it to win, and I will absolutely use every tool at my disposal to do so.

Lmpo since when? I RAIN curses when we have them and need to turn the tide of battle. I watch extremely high level players HG and they absolutely use curse balls

If others can do it. Why don’t you?

Unwritten rule not to use curses. But it fine to use fire and blunder bombs XD. Also, rule or not, trust no pirate

First of all there is no unwritten rule regarding using curseballs during Hg or regular sandbox PvP. Second bonecallers are extremely rare but just because it's the brand new thing this season brought everyone goes out of there way to find some and you should too especially since you are playing solo.

Like others have said there's no such thing as an unwritten rule about cursed cannonballs etc. this might be your personal moral compass but anyone is allowed to use any means available to sink theit opponent. People just generally tend to forget about the cursed cannonballs they have lol

It's a stupid rule that you don't have to follow. Yes, callers are broken, but only because skeletons cannot find a permanent target and do not know who to attack until victory, but in HG and the like everything works fine

I dont think its an unwriten rule not to use curse balls as much as they are just extremely hard to find, so people just dont, and i do not agree with changes to nerf the over all adventure experience just for the hourglass. Enough things that were fun and nice to use have been nerfed because of hourglass complaints.

Bone callers are a tool that you your self can use as well, so if you are losing to them, then you can your self use them to balance things out.

In all fairness. Bone callers are not as hard to deal with as cursed cannonballs as a solo slooper. You’re at the mercy of the “pirates code” now. If they’re using them then it opens up the door to you using them

Great how noone talks about the actual point.

Bone callers are 100% broken when on a sloop, theres already very little space and having to avoid 3 skeletons that will even lunge at you (with a max of 2 shots available) while bucketing and defending against an actual boarder is insane and just a cheap tool that only helps those already in a winning position, nothing else.

I dont like curses but still, they need to be hit with the cannon, you need to time them well and communicate with your crewmate when combining them with a board to make it viable, which is why they rarely matter.

Bonecallers can be thrown by the boarder themselves without any aim requirement and guarantee a free board.

The way they are now they should just be a normal curseball or they should scale according to ship size, 1 skelly on a sloop, 2 on a brig and 3 on a gally.
Theres a massive difference in the effects they have on different crew and shipsizes and it should be adjusted for that.

@soulstinger2k20 have you not seen pirates of the Caribbean 3😅? Even pirates have to stick to a code. That’s why parley even existed haha because they’re more than just thieves

It is exhausting to reply to everybody who has the same argument, so I'll say this:
It's sad how few are willing to try to empathize in mine and other people situation. Hourglass is a gamemode where fights are supposed to be fair and sporty, otherwise you could match bigger ships or gank solos invaders with galleon allies.
Unwritten rules are rules made from communities of HG players and having a curse or both doesn't make you one of them, and denying they exist doesn't change the fact that many people like to follow them until the other party breach them.
I have no issue for these tools to be used against bigger boats and bigger crews, in adventure mode they are great. But people who really want to get them would still be able to find them everywhere outside outposts, like for wraithballs.
Like someone pointed out in solo HG fights (and in general in not so big ships) they shouldn't be so powerfull, also they are too frequent, expecially considering you're alone having to stay afloat and put pressure to the other boat to don't get boarded.
Furthermore this worse the matchmaking beause people who win matches only beause of them will struggle agaist better people and complain about matchmaking.
The "winning at all costs" it isn't a sane mindset to have for a videogame. I hope you guys have enough honesty to agree.

@drackhon8528
If HG wasn't based on building and maintaining killstreaks as a metric, then I would lean towards 'obeying' other people's notions of 'fair play' in a cut-throat PvP head-to-head matchup.
At the end of the day, I want my boat to win, and I want yours to lose.
Im doing everything I can to make that eventuality happen, short of cheating.
What's next? Complaining about being boarded? Being set on fire? Specific weapon loadouts?
If I managed to find a wraithball or an anchorball and it looks like things arent going our way, best believe Im sending them your way.

Give Davy Jones my best.

edit I do respect the callout when someone has disconnected at the start of the match, and typically disengage and give them 5 minutes to get their crew together*

@thor-von-blitz @Soulstinger2k20 That's not the point. It doesn't matter unwritten rules and using wraithball. It is the frequency you encounter people using bone caller and how powerfull and devastating they are agaist solo sloopers. Expcially when abused in advantageous situations.
Also in my experience typically people don't use them to relieve the pressure but to secure a sink, when they are already in advantaged situation. Like me with the mast down, with a lot of pressure or when they have no pressure compared to me and decide to throw a bonecaller before boarding. And there are situations when I'm on the advantaged side and I get a bonecaller on my deck, but it's a compleate different story and not so annoing. But this doesn't excuse what type of unfair advantage they give against solo sloopers

@capt-kamoba

Bone callers are useless as defense. They are only used or useful when boarding, so the other ship likely also has cannonshots on you which will instantly kill yours.

@rotten-rocko I don't want to put it in an arrogant way, but if you are in a situation with mast up and patched, and you manage to spread holes, breaking masts with normal cannonballs, hitting wheel or stop your boat to make theirs overspin. You reduced the turtle effectivness.
When I allow someone to escape in a spot like that it's on me, because I stopped putting pressure. Because when if you'd turtle you know you are in disadvantage, where it could take a backsplash, a oneball or a board to sink you. You don't sink someone just because you broke the mast and shot always the same spot above the kitchen.

Also, I thinks some people misunderstood my situation. Yes, when I wrote the post, I sunk because bone callers but I also took longer to sink people because they used bonecallers, by spamming them. I don't want to brag my abilities, but because solo slooping isn't the easyest way to fight, but it's not uncommon to meet people with no care for raising sails to take better shots or other type of bad habits.
And during a battle when I finally manage to stop them from running, they sent me two bone callers on my boat and they droppend one on theirs while I was boarding, it took 30/40 minuts to sink them. I don't have too many issue with people using them agaist me if there's an obvious mismatch of abilities, but like I said, they are too frequent. How much time and Bone Callers need to be wasted to win me a battle in HG?

@rotten-rocko It seems too situational to immagine. But if you try my advice next time maybe you break their turtle way earlyer