Hitting 250 skeleton ship with a bone caller? Killing 250 Sharks with the new gun? Please rebalance this stuff.
This is WAY worse than the first version of the captaincy update.
And the worst is that every commendation must be done individually, so players must play alone to avoid fighting for the use of scattershots and bonecallers with the crew
The grind in sot is nuts i enjoy the game but hitting ships commendation with the new shotgun munition balls is silly and no content, or commendation for taking a nap repairing the ship n so on shouldnt be a commendation. reach 100 around with both fractions in hg battles is fine but behind that 200 for a figurehead its climbing 400 if u do both fractions reaching 1000...its just insane and no fun.the best new commendation is loading treasures on ship over balancing on the harpoon string why should i do that?
Grinds were fine when more people played organically and exploiting and cheesing weren't as extreme.
Now they are just this thing where people that play organically gotta deal with unfun requirements while many around them are doing all the cheese/exploit methods
and then it all might get extremely nerfed in 9 months or a year.
Grinds are fine with consistency but there is no consistency in live service gaming, especially this one.
Also doesn't fit with the whole "do what you want" thing when stuff like this just creates "get it over with" metas, which cuts down on organic experiences for the season.
@hiradc there is A LOT of content. From season 10 the requirements for commendations and trading company reputations are NUTS
@fox-gr yep, I haven't finished the kingly loot or any of the new raid/raid loot ones. It will take me awhile, and that's ok
Most commendations have been made easier over time, doesn't need a same season overhaul
EH. In 2 days I had 322, i recommend doing shipwrecks and check out forts to gather tons of scatter since they are anything but uncommon. Anything you can do in less than a week isn't that bad imo but I see where you coming from with saying it's too grindy.
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EH. In 2 days I had 322, i recommend doing shipwrecks and check out forts to gather tons of scatter since they are anything but uncommon. Anything you can do in less than a week isn't that bad imo but I see where you coming from with saying it's too grindy.
I’ve always completed the most tedious and repetitive grinds in this game, but this is too much in too little time. Hitting 250 kegs with knife? Seriously?
The only problem I have is that I need to be the one to deliver the final blow with the ranged throwing knife and the double barrel pistol.
I have been trying to solo the Ashen Lord so I can guarantee the final shot but being a world event, I keep getting interrupted by other crews. If I do it with a few crew, I often don’t get the final hit even if I currently have the double barrel pistol pulled out.
@coffeelight5545 I solo'd mine (pain had to sink a gally and fight off 2 duo sloops) but I've helped friends do it and just said once get to 3rd round and ashen lord has done second meteor attack the other 2 just focus the skellies.
@coffeelight5545 ha detto in New War Chest Commendations need a SERIOUS REBALANCE:
The only problem I have is that I need to be the one to deliver the final blow with the ranged throwing knife and the double barrel pistol.
I have been trying to solo the Ashen Lord so I can guarantee the final shot but being a world event, I keep getting interrupted by other crews. If I do it with a few crew, I often don’t get the final hit even if I currently have the double barrel pistol pulled out.
I made those commendations in solo at my first attempt. Stuff like this is super easy. But the repetitive commendations with 5 grades are INSANE.
I repeat: killing 250 sharks with the double barrel gun is stupid, not challenging. And creates rivalry and tensions with your crewmates.
@itz-majman said in New War Chest Commendations need a SERIOUS REBALANCE:
EH. In 2 days I had 322, i recommend doing shipwrecks and check out forts to gather tons of scatter since they are anything but uncommon. Anything you can do in less than a week isn't that bad imo but I see where you coming from with saying it's too grindy.
The entire season was built on tools not rules and adding more fun to the game.
Yeah, people that play all day can do some of this stuff in a week but it creates a situation where people have to do the same uninteresting things over in a season that really wasn't built on that idea.
"use what we want and do it a whole lot of times in situations that many won't find fun" isn't really a great way to introduce more tools into the sandbox. And then there is the rng on horns.
Events used to be that way years ago and people largely didn't like it, which is why events became less of that over time.
A grind like legendary hunter allows people to incorporate it into their sessions no matter what they do, these commendations don't do that. Other than the horn but the rng on it is terrible in organic play.
I didn’t think the commendation would track properly in safer seas. I may have to try that so I can get a decent skin for the double barrel pistol
I dont think you can say „a commendation needs to be hard in order to provide content for the season“. Thats not how this works. Another „level up bar“ that you can fill while repeating old content is not content. The new weapons and tools are content. Trying them out and enjoying their strengths and weaknesses is content. Shooting 250 sharks with the double barreled pistol is NOT content. It‘s a mistake.
OP is absolutely right. The commendations are extremely imbalanced. 250 horns for example is easily the hardest adventure commendation thus far if you attempt to do it on your own.
This season with all its new features is great. However the commendations that look like the person who created it just rolled a dice for the numbers feel like a slap in the face. This and the overall gamestability seriously diminish the fun I have im the game rn.
I just realized that you must hit 1000 times skeletons and players ships with the scattershot. And I’m scared to know how many hits for the megalodon.
This is madness, there’s nothing organic in all this. A player that needs to complete every commendations is Forced to play alone doing the same things endlessy to finish this
@hiradc stop! You are mixing up things. First of all its a nice feeling to „be done“ with something. People who try to complete the game as fast as possible get real satisfaction from this feeling. Its not for everyone, if you cant relate dont speak on the usefulness of commendations that are reasonable to complete.
People that are complaining about no content are not complaining about that because they completed all commendations. They complain about it because there are no new features to enjoy.
A commendation where theres an extra 0 at the end of the number required to complete was never content. Its a lazy attempt to keep playerinteraction with old content high.
Which is somewhat fine if the content is worldevents or treasuries. But there you gotta have a sense for proportions. 250 keg skellys is a crazy number.
However if the old content youre getting incentivized to revisit is sharks and you have to kill 250 of them then I really think the question is justified wth the thought process behind this was.
@coffeelight5545 said in New War Chest Commendations need a SERIOUS REBALANCE:
I didn’t think the commendation would track properly in safer seas. I may have to try that so I can get a decent skin for the double barrel pistol
As someone with both admiral weapons, I can confirm that safer seas is the best option. For one do it on solo sloop against a skeleton lord in Order of Souls, and the other you can choose any raid event with an ashen lord.
Currently I'm doing the ones for the sea dog versions, it seems it requires 1000 each, so doing these skeleton crew voyages help a lot.
All the numbers are way too high.
Even simple ones are inconvenient like:
Use a Bone Caller to defeat a Captain Skeleton. (You don't get it from Captain Skeletons from Voyages or Ashen Captain Skeletons)
With little to no rewards like cosmetics for doing most of the war chest commendations it really does feel like the most pointless busywork to date.
@fox-gr said in New War Chest Commendations need a SERIOUS REBALANCE:
Please rebalance this stuff.
"Peppered Meg" is the worst one, given the Meg's keep their distance and don't attack anymore. Fix the Meg!!!
@iCtus-XXI you’re ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. There’s always a useless zero in the number required for these commendations.
Totally unbalanced. You can’t kill 250 sharks, one of the few enemies in the game that only spawns randomly, never in swarms, with a specific weapon, and paying attention that your crewmates don’t steal the kill.
Killing sharks with the double barrel is especially obnoxious because it takes and entire five shots to kill a single shark. you can only kill one before you have to reload, so even when three spawn at once it's annoying. Kill one, shoot last bullet into one, climb back on the boat, reload, kill the next one, reload, etc.
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Killing sharks with the double barrel is especially obnoxious because it takes and entire five shots to kill a single shark. you can only kill one before you have to reload, so even when three spawn at once it's annoying. Kill one, shoot last bullet into one, climb back on the boat, reload, kill the next one, reload, etc.
And if you die, the sharks disappear.
The same concept for the 250 skegletons. If you hit one, the explosion kills the others, slowing the process.
@vaughnsilver ha detto in New War Chest Commendations need a SERIOUS REBALANCE:
All the numbers are way too high.
Even simple ones are inconvenient like:
Use a Bone Caller to defeat a Captain Skeleton. (You don't get it from Captain Skeletons from Voyages or Ashen Captain Skeletons)With little to no rewards like cosmetics for doing most of the war chest commendations it really does feel like the most pointless busywork to date.
Totally agree. I play everyday for hours and the bonecallers are way too rare. Like cursed cannonballs
@ictus-xxi I'm not averse to them being tweaked, I just don't like gut reaction panic and bait titles using all caps for hyperbole.
Devs could give it a couple months, they get data on progress made and if they see that on average it will take players 6 months or more....then sure tweak them. It doesn't have to be an instant panic change
There's a balance between commendations that can be achieved organically without actively pursuing over time, and some of the community feeling that they have to complete every single one.
There are some commendations right now that I think can't physically be completed.....anyone seen a gift since dive to voyages came in? Deliver crates and kegs
I'd rather they see some tweaks than the brand new dropped ones.
@hiradc ha detto in New War Chest Commendations need a SERIOUS REBALANCE:
@ictus-xxi I'm not averse to them being tweaked, I just don't like gut reaction panic and bait titles using all caps for hyperbole.
I’m 42 years old, Father of one (two in october, yikes!), a job that makes me work even on weekends and sot is my only joy in my spare time.
I managed to complete almost everything in the game, even if from season 10 the grind were WILD. I was waiting for this season hoping that finally the new commendations would be back on a human level. And that’s the opposite!
I’m not the only completionist there, and since this game is one of a kind, with no determined match time, victory screen or features like that, commendations Hunt is the real goal.
But a goal must be plausible. And these are not. Not in the slightest.
@hiradc said in New War Chest Commendations need a SERIOUS REBALANCE:
Devs could give it a couple months, they get data on progress made and if they see that on average it will take players 6 months or more....then sure tweak them. It doesn't have to be an instant panic change
Waiting is the worst way to do it, even worse than just leaving the comms how they are.
That's where they created far more frustration with Captaincy.
They have veteran players that know better and newer/casual players that don't attach to the grinds.
It would be one thing if it was interesting stuff, that would be worth preserving, this is just monotonous chore activity for the most part.
It would be far more enjoyable if they designed the requirements like seasonal passes. Seasonal passes serve everyone, people play how they enjoy playing and that activity adds up. Should be like that with new tools. Reward activity the individual enjoys rather than just pushing extreme requirements.
These chore lists make it far easier for experienced players to take months off at a time (not good for the ecosystems of servers).
Yeah I'll admit I hadn't actually looked closely at the max numbers so op does have a point. Personally if I see progression I don't look too deeply in working out how long it's gonna take (the base skelly kills are definitely fine). Scattershot is useless in pvp so I'm OK with just spamming in pve, the bonecallers we have to be careful. I've seen calls for increasing spawn rate in general but if used correctly they can be very powerful in pvp so I'd probably rather see the comm changed than rarity.
@hiradc said in New War Chest Commendations need a SERIOUS REBALANCE:
Yeah I'll admit I hadn't actually looked closely at the max numbers so op does have a point. Personally if I see progression I don't look too deeply in working out how long it's gonna take (the base skelly kills are definitely fine). Scattershot is useless in pvp so I'm OK with just spamming in pve, the bonecallers we have to be careful. I've seen calls for increasing spawn rate in general but if used correctly they can be very powerful in pvp so I'd probably rather see the comm changed than rarity.
What I don't like about scattershot comms is that it creates what they try to avoid.
On paper people just shoot some scattershot and it adds up but that's not how experienced players tend to farm. A common way that players have been doing this is finding inexperienced players and locking the boat down to farm their comms, not good for the game.
It also creates a situation where people have to choose between the rewards or their style of play. Plenty of people play in a defensive style, they aren't looking to farm comms by creating hostility. The amount is so high that it would require more hostility for it to be realistic.
@hiradc ha detto in New War Chest Commendations need a SERIOUS REBALANCE:
Yeah I'll admit I hadn't actually looked closely at the max numbers so op does have a point. Personally if I see progression I don't look too deeply in working out how long it's gonna take (the base skelly kills are definitely fine). Scattershot is useless in pvp so I'm OK with just spamming in pve, the bonecallers we have to be careful. I've seen calls for increasing spawn rate in general but if used correctly they can be very powerful in pvp so I'd probably rather see the comm changed than rarity.
The base requirements for the graded commendations are ok, zero problems with these. But the grade 5 are the most insane I’ve ever seen in the game.
As you said, scattershot are useless in pvp but you MUST hit players ships 1000 times to complete the commendation.
Like the goldskelly commendation only requires 25 and it feels like the only reasonable commendation. There mustve been a mistake and all commendations that are locked at 250 are actually supposed to be 25. Like the horn - compare that commendation to the breaths of the sea. You have to get 30 of those and its one of the harder commendations out there. And it's way harder to find 1 horn vs 1 breath of the sea.
@ictus-xxi ha detto in New War Chest Commendations need a SERIOUS REBALANCE:
Like the goldskelly commendation only requires 25 and it feels like the only reasonable commendation. There mustve been a mistake and all commendations that are locked at 250 are actually supposed to be 25. Like the horn - compare that commendation to the breaths of the sea. You have to get 30 of those and its one of the harder commendations out there. And it's way harder to find 1 horn vs 1 breath of the sea.
This is exactly what I was thinking. The gold skelly commendations is so different from the others. This MUST be an error
