Toxic players getting innocent players automatically banned for YouTube views

  • There’s a YouTube channel that posted the following video showcasing them offering a storage crate full to the brim of illegitimately obtained rare fish through the use of an exploit which will not be discussed here to unsuspecting randoms they encounter out on the sea.

    [Mod edit - Removed to protect players]

    PSA: If any player encounters a person doing this or simply happens to organically stumble across a storage crate with an unbelievably large quantity of the exact same extremely rare fish type, DO NOT SELL any of the fish in the storage crate to the Hunter’s Call or to the Sovereigns.

    The game will detect this behavior and instantly kick you out of the session and issue a temporary ban on your account.

    You will not be able play the game until the yellowbeard expires or until you plead your case with Rare support staff.

    The right thing to if you encounter one of these storage crates is either do not interact with it at all (most safe) or drop it overboard in the open ocean where other players are not likely to encounter is so it eventually sinks and despawns (should be fine aka no auto-ban).

    To Rare support staff, please be aware toxic individuals who think it is funny to do something that will get innocent players temporarily banned are out on the seas therefore it may be better to remove this automatic exploit detection resulting in bans and fix the exploit instead.

    This is a PvE only exploit that does not affect server stability or PvP balance. It is not worth losing a loyal and likely completely innocent player because of a false and unjust ban.

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  • Anyone who would think that this amount of fish is caught without use of an exploit or cheat could do with a lesson IMO, though I hope those caught into this will be able to get their ban removed.

  • @lem0n-curry said in Toxic players getting innocent players automatically banned for YouTube views:

    Anyone who would think that this amount of fish is caught without use of an exploit or cheat could do with a lesson IMO, though I hope those caught into this will be able to get their ban removed.

    Hence the purpose of this PSA.

    You destroy evil in the world by shining a light on it not pretending it doesn’t exist.

  • Also, record and report if someone offers it to you.

    Evil Pithy: lol

  • This is… really sad that people are doing this. But @AbledBeet619619, you did a good job of raising the alarm! Thank you so much!

  • The game has a lot of people that think it's ok to crash servers for loot exploits, duping loot all season into community weekends, cheesing to extremes.

    This kind of thing can trick people but there will be a lot of "I'm innocent" when it's actually people that get themselves in trouble. People have been unapologetically dancing on and over that line for a long time.

    Excuse, dismiss, and justify all the nonsense that people do in this game and it leads to them getting themselves in trouble, then they will pretend to be victims on social media when it catches up to them. Pretend their friends are victims of unjust bans.

    This is exactly the kind of exploit that people will get themselves caught up in because of years of some in the community dismissing cheesing and pve exploiting in this game.

  • @wolfmanbush They are still doing it, I got invited to a game this morning by someone who had multiple stacks of loot from a single world event. I told them they shouldn't exploit and left.

    I does not help that you have a Sea of Thieves partner putting a video out there telling you about an exploit and advising you to use it before it got patched.

    Just to clarify this is a streamer however this is not one of the major exploits but is is still exploiting a game feature and advising people to use it before it gets patched sends the wrong message.

  • game will detect this behavior and instantly kick you out of the session and issue a temporary ban on your account.

    How do you know any of this. I’m curious

  • @burnbacon Well I know about from a tweet sent out by somebody who got banned from selling a box of 99 rare fish they found on a Sea Post

  • @phantaxus said in Toxic players getting innocent players automatically banned for YouTube views:

    @wolfmanbush They are still doing it, I got invited to a game this morning by someone who had multiple stacks of loot from a single world event. I told them they shouldn't exploit and left.

    I does not help that you have a Sea of Thieves partner putting a video out there telling you about an exploit and advising you to use it before it got patched.

    I guess they don't care about they being a partner, as AFAIK using / advertising (some) exploits can get you removed from the partner programme. I guess if they're doing that won't get you banned they're all right, doing the exploit that got the loot nerfed would at least be in a grey area I wouldn't want to be in, if I was a partner.

  • I have noticed more and more LFGs for SOT where different characters, in a very open manner, offer exploits of all kinds. Not to mention the robo accounts trying to sell stuff online.

  • @lem0n-curry

    I don't agree that we should give this guy a high-five because he managed to dupe some players into getting banned from the game...I'm pretty sure that's a textbook example of victim blaming. Gullibility shouldn't be a reason to get Redbearded, especially if this guy gets away with this scot-free.

    What I honestly can't believe is the audacity of this guy to publish a video on YouTube celebrating the fact that he's getting players banned! How is this not a violation of the rules!?

  • @lucky11 said in Toxic players getting innocent players automatically banned for YouTube views:

    @lem0n-curry

    I don't agree that we should give this guy a high-five because he managed to dupe some players into getting banned from the game...I'm pretty sure that's a textbook example of victim blaming. Gullibility shouldn't be a reason to get Redbearded, especially if this guy gets away with this scot-free.

    I'm not high-fiving the you-tuber. I think the OP mentioned those that were given the fish were yellow-bearded (i.e. temp ban).

    What I honestly can't believe is the audacity of this guy to publish a video on YouTube celebrating the fact that he's getting players banned! How is this not a violation of the rules!?

    He's using an exploit or cheat to get them isn't he ? - AFAIK that's a sure way to get banned.

  • Has anyone sent the video to support? (I have no intention of giving this person another view) If you can see their GT, it might get some tracking

    @AbledBeet619619 ?

  • @lem0n-curry said in Toxic players getting innocent players automatically banned for YouTube views:

    I guess they don't care about they being a partner, as AFAIK using / advertising (some) exploits can get you removed from the partner programme. I guess if they're doing that won't get you banned they're all right, doing the exploit that got the loot nerfed would at least be in a grey area I wouldn't want to be in, if I was a partner.

    From a self preservation point of view many in the social areas haven't been making a whole lot of sense.

    Even if people dismiss the damage this all does to the environment it doesn't make any sense for people to go on and on about "anti-cheat", telling Rare they don't do enough, poking at them nonstop about "fair play", and then many of those same people go out there and exploit pve to the extreme, supply exploits, exploiting for comms/cosmetics/leaderboards, on and on.

    Gotta keep on the up and up when pushing for more monitoring and more enforcement because at some point that's gonna bite the same people always demanding it, if they are engaging in all these exploits that go around.

    If people aren't gonna look out for the environment that they share with others the least they can do is look out for themselves so they don't get themselves in trouble. They won't be as arrogantly confident without access when it gets to that point. Might as well stay off that path.

  • This happens when the developer rather ban peoples than fixing the flaws of his own game.

  • its sad when a developer bans people for their bad programming. like FIX YOUR GAME!!!!!! or just accept that the exploit exists under their "tools not rules" approach. someone learned how to cheat your system? i cant think of anything more pirate than cheating.

    i dont condone it in anyway i feel like that ruins your potential enjoyment of the game but that choice is on you. its like back in the day turning on god mode in a game. whats the point in playing a challenging game then removing the challenge? youre removing that sense of satisfaction from doing it properly.

    but since everyone always attacks pve players with "its a pirate game" i respond in kind when it comes to cheaters. pirates arent known for following the rules.

    but yea the fact that this has turned into a way for cheaters to troll the legitimate players who get excited thinking someone left them a bunch of fish.

    this is rares problem not the players. if you cant figure out how to fix this then you have to just accept it is the way it is

  • @lem0n-curry youtubers arent "partners" streamers are. and honestly the partner program was unobtainable for most and the incentive to be one has also been removed so

  • I already detest exploit kiddies, but things like this just make me hate them more. Even more so that these people see absolutely nothing wrong with their usage of exploits.

    This one YouTube channel I came across that showcases every exploit they find, believes that because Rare doesn't patch out the exploits, that makes it okay. So stupid the lengths people will go to, to justify their behavior.

  • @keylessword4029 said in Toxic players getting innocent players automatically banned for YouTube views:

    its sad when a developer bans people for their bad programming. like FIX YOUR GAME!!!!!! or just accept that the exploit exists under their "tools not rules" approach. someone learned how to cheat your system? i cant think of anything more pirate than cheating.

    i dont condone it in anyway i feel like that ruins your potential enjoyment of the game but that choice is on you. its like back in the day turning on god mode in a game. whats the point in playing a challenging game then removing the challenge? youre removing that sense of satisfaction from doing it properly.

    but since everyone always attacks pve players with "its a pirate game" i respond in kind when it comes to cheaters. pirates arent known for following the rules.

    but yea the fact that this has turned into a way for cheaters to troll the legitimate players who get excited thinking someone left them a bunch of fish.

    this is rares problem not the players. if you cant figure out how to fix this then you have to just accept it is the way it is

    There is a ToS that we agree to by participating in this game. A code of conduct that we agreed to.

    It's the company protecting itself but it's also built on participants doing decent by one another in a shared environment.

    An agreement to not cheat the system, not cheat each other and the environment.

    People have agreed to fair play in this environment, that includes pve. Enforcement is irrelevant to our part of the agreement.

    People can avoid trouble by playing the game how it was designed. Cheesing and exploits are not entitlements, they are outside of fair play and not a play style nor harmless to the environment.

    Personally I'd rather people just knock it off and take care of themselves even if they don't give a heck about the effects but we have all agreed to play fair here. It's a lot easier to abide by an agreement of fair play than to deal with breaking it.

  • @keylessword4029 said in Toxic players getting innocent players automatically banned for YouTube views:

    @lem0n-curry youtubers arent "partners" streamers are. and honestly the partner program was unobtainable for most and the incentive to be one has also been removed so

    Some are, the one you posted may not be, but I was reacting to someone who mentioned actions of a SoT partner.

  • I would mark this as URGENT if I were a mod. Imagine what it's going to be like for someone on playstation to have just purchase the game. They login and find a crate full of fish not really understanding anything about the game and they figure out how and where to sell them and then instantly banned because Rare couldn't fix the supply crate dupe exploit so they implemented an auto ban for anyone trying to profit off it. This would result in refunds and just burning bridges with new and gullible players.

  • I've seen these 'bait" crates at least twice over the past year+. An example showed up on a stream last week, too. There were also cheaters with "SoT ***** (I'll leave it out because its witch-hunting otw)" name, but that's another story

    Best thing to do is put crate on ship, sail towards open/red sea and alt-f4

  • @unleet1 said in Toxic players getting innocent players automatically banned for YouTube views:

    thing to do is put crate on ship, sail towards open/red sea and alt-f4

    Except some players complained and it'll just float back out now 😅

    I would say take it through a Pirate's Life portal lol.

    Does it trigger if you eat the fish? That would be funny. Like "oh boy my favorite!" Omnomnomnom....while the prankster is horrified that's your first reaction 🤣🤪

  • @pithyrumble said in Toxic players getting innocent players automatically banned for YouTube views:

    @unleet1 said in Toxic players getting innocent players automatically banned for YouTube views:

    thing to do is put crate on ship, sail towards open/red sea and alt-f4

    Except some players complained and it'll just float back out now 😅

    I would say take it through a Pirate's Life portal lol.

    Does it trigger if you eat the fish? That would be funny. Like "oh boy my favorite!" Omnomnomnom....while the prankster is horrified that's your first reaction 🤣🤪

    Ha yeah I thought about eating through it too. Maybe a galleon could stand for it, heck naw for me.

  • @lem0n-curry said in Toxic players getting innocent players automatically banned for YouTube views:

    Anyone who would think that this amount of fish is caught without use of an exploit or cheat could do with a lesson IMO, though I hope those caught into this will be able to get their ban removed.

    Problems arise if it is a newer player. Some one with mabye a few weeks or even maby a month in game may not even understand what they are being given.

  • @tossico94 Issues need to be fixed for sure. But people choose to exploit and break ToS. If anything happens to their account, they deserve it.

    Exploiters are NOT absolved of blame/wrongdoing just because they CAN do it.

  • @keylessword4029

    this is rares problem not the players. if you cant figure out how to fix this then you have to just accept it is the way it is

    You're right that Rare needs to fix these issues, but you're absolutely wrong that it's not the player's problem.

    Just because a player can do something, doesn't mean they should. I would wager that a (hopefully) grand majority of people who exploit at least have the slightest common sense of right and wrong. If it feels wrong, it probably is.

    Yet that doesn't stop people from willfully and purposely playing in any way aside from intended.

    And then you have clowns like the channel OP talked about, and countless other ones that also instruct on exploit usage. Just sad.

    So no, the players are not absolved from blame or criticism for willfully going against ToS and being a general nuisance to the community.

  • @keylessword4029 said in Toxic players getting innocent players automatically banned for YouTube views:

    its sad when a developer bans people for their bad programming. like FIX YOUR GAME!!!!!! or just accept that the exploit exists under their "tools not rules" approach. someone learned how to cheat your system? i cant think of anything more pirate than cheating.

    i dont condone it in anyway

    ...Kiiiinda did there.... 🤷‍♂️

  • @valor-omega

    Eh no,not really. This Is not some complicated exploit that requires 2000 steps to perform. This particular exploit can be easily mistaken,expecially for newbies Who can Just think that they meet a nice Person on the Seas.

    Its just patethic the way RARE handled this situation;not even an official post,not even a warning in game.

    I Guess they are busy porting sot to PlayStation;they so excited to Port theyre buggy game there that they changed location on Twitter to "PlayStation 5" 🤦🤦🤦

    Ah yes,dont report them bugs via private message,use the proper form otherwise they get offended and accuse you of harrasment ☠️🤦

  • @tossico94 said in Toxic players getting innocent players automatically banned for YouTube views:

    @valor-omega

    Eh no,not really. This Is not some complicated exploit that requires 2000 steps to perform.

    That actual mechanics of the exploit require a very specific set of events. It would be difficult for anybody to claim it was done accidentally, but I see your point about newbies getting tricked by thinking they had met someone nice. I hope Rare looks at the specific bans coming from this and removes the strike once the ban has expired.

  • @burnbacon the video shows the players disappearing from server in real time...

  • @phantaxus

    Yes,what i refer Is to players getting tricked by this. Its not even a new bug.

  • The forbidden fruit is always the sweetest.

    If someone throws down rare in fish in front of me I am turning them in.

  • @look-behind-you i guess what i meant was i wouldnt do it myself but the fact that rare has allowed it to go on for so long AND the fact that pirates are all about breaking rules/laws its kinda fitting of what is a pirate. basically saying if people want to keep attacking pve players with the argument "its a pirate game" then i would argue that ok then cheating is fair too because "its a pirate game"

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