During the early mornings, I will see the queue times for Servants of the Flame is "Less Than 1 Minute." Yet I will sit in queue under the waves for 20 minutes (no joke nor exageration). The queues for N.A. servers need some tweaking so they are more accurately displaying the queue times.
I have a crew mate that takes me to European servers are we keep getting queued against the SAME cheaters. It is early morning for me (5 AM) but my crew mate is on European time. We will meet an obvious cheater (ie flies in mid air and drops down to our deck, goes invisible, sends invisible tridant shots to a specific teammate) sink to them. Requeue and go against them again. My crew mate from Europe and I will will scuttle to new seas and requeue. Guess what: we meet the same cheaters again. Not to mention they spout all the slurs to add salt to our wounds. This has happened for the last week. We leave the European servers to N.A. to avoid cheaters, but we can't tell how long we have to wait, so we go back to Europe only to get the same cheaters again.
N.A. Servers Lie About Queue Times and Cheaters in Europe...
@lucky-oleny for cheaters just record and report. all EU servers are part of the same queue so even changing seas you will still get the same opponents.
Queue times are a seperate issue. The reason they can be inaccurate is they are based of off the Servanta or Guardians times for the region, in this case NA east, central, or west. The issue is they are an average of all crew types. So Solo-Sloop, Duo-Sloop, Brigantine, and Galleon. So if it dmsays less than 1 minute or 1-2 min for a queue time, it means there is an active boat type, it doesn't mean you will queue in that time.
@lucky-oleny if you suspect people of cheating then record it and submit it to support to get them banned.
Regarding queue times. It’s an average based on all ships with hourglass voted down, not who is in the queue in the tunnels.
@captain-coel said in N.A. Servers Lie About Queue Times and Cheaters in Europe...:
@lucky-oleny for cheaters just record and report. all EU servers are part of the same queue so even changing seas you will still get the same opponents.
Queue times are a seperate issue. The reason they can be inaccurate is they are based of off the Servanta or Guardians times for the region, in this case NA east, central, or west. The issue is they are an average of all crew types. So Solo-Sloop, Duo-Sloop, Brigantine, and Galleon. So if it dmsays less than 1 minute or 1-2 min for a queue time, it means there is an active boat type, it doesn't mean you will queue in that time.
@tesiccl said in N.A. Servers Lie About Queue Times and Cheaters in Europe...:
@lucky-oleny if you suspect people of cheating then record it and submit it to support to get them banned.
Regarding queue times. It’s an average based on all ships with hourglass voted down, not who is in the queue in the tunnels.
I don't have recording software on my PC to record them. No, I will not obtain some JUST to record some loser cheaters that will be right back in game the next day. I also can confirm reporting them doesn't actually accomplish anything. I have talked with a confirmed cheater to understand and can confirm when they get "banned" they just make a new account or even buy a used one and come right back. Again and again (there are actually people out there that make accounts, obtain a few things, then sell said account, then repeat the process). I even watched him get banned in front of me, and he contacted me on a whole new account. Showing me screen shots of his "beard" ban message. Oddly enough, he never got banned for cheating. They banned him because he used the cheat engine to unlock cosmetics.
What I find interesting is my Eurpean crewmate and I kept getting queued with the SAME cheaters each time. As if in ALL of Europe there were no other players except our two duo sloops.
If your queue comments are accurate that is a bad idea. It should be based on those in queue. My map said "Less Than 1 Minute" and I stood in queue under water, for no less than 20 minutes. That is a flagrant problem that my map said "Less Than 1 Minute." Not an "oopsie." Not to mention, I am to believe out of ALL the N.A. servers, no one was queued underwater as well? If the queue times are longer it SHOULD communicate that. I shouldn't be led to queue with a false prediction. I can understand a few minutes even. Maybe it says "Less Than 1" but it actually takes 4 or 6. No. Things need to change.
I love this game and I'm not meaning to attack anyone responding to my post. To me it seems obvious that things need to change.I also can confirm reporting them doesn't actually accomplish anything.
Let me clarify. Reporting and getting cheaters banned does a lot, not only does it get rid of that person to stop the damage being done to someone else, it also helps Rare identify the software they’re using and how to prevent future cheating. You might think it does nothing, but if you don’t help Rare, how can they help you?
If your queue comments are accurate that is a bad idea. It should be based on those in queue.
It is based on those in the queue. If you play at “off peak” times during the day on your side of the planet, you’re gonna have less people in the queue. The queue also prioritises getting you a match as soon as possible, with someone as close to your rating as possible. If there’s no-one in the queue to your level, it expands the net until it finds someone. If that happens to be cheaters or hardcore players, then that’s who’re you gonna get. Rare won’t change it to make you wait for hours on end until you find a match, that would be incredibly boring.
This is why things are the way they are.
@tesiccl
You do know the new thing is using cleaners? That way they can use the same account and ban evade, doesn't work 100% but if they can logout and clean before Rare looks into it, their account has been cleaned and they're cheating again.
Also, regarding cheating software- while anti-cheat is still in the works (see the latest video from the team where Drew discusses the new GDK and DirectX 11/12 implementation), it is currently extremely hard to track down specific cheat software/third party stuff because of basic cybersecurity. So, with the high turnover/development of third-party cheats (sometimes it's just fov) and using cleaners, it's almost impossible for Rare to keep up with responsive action, which is why implementation of preventive measures is so needed.
@fedted998 said in N.A. Servers Lie About Queue Times and Cheaters in Europe...:
why you use an european server first of all? to having lag advantages?
My crew mate is from Eurpoe so he invites me to his server. When we get the cheaters I invite him to my N.A. servers where the wait times are NOT at all what's advertised.
@tesiccl said in N.A. Servers Lie About Queue Times and Cheaters in Europe...:
I also can confirm reporting them doesn't actually accomplish anything.
Let me clarify. Reporting and getting cheaters banned does a lot, not only does it get rid of that person to stop the damage being done to someone else, it also helps Rare identify the software they’re using and how to prevent future cheating. You might think it does nothing, but if you don’t help Rare, how can they help you?
If your queue comments are accurate that is a bad idea. It should be based on those in queue.
It is based on those in the queue. If you play at “off peak” times during the day on your side of the planet, you’re gonna have less people in the queue. The queue also prioritises getting you a match as soon as possible, with someone as close to your rating as possible. If there’s no-one in the queue to your level, it expands the net until it finds someone. If that happens to be cheaters or hardcore players, then that’s who’re you gonna get. Rare won’t change it to make you wait for hours on end until you find a match, that would be incredibly boring.
This is why things are the way they are.
I don't think anyone is understanding. The cheaters are a problem, yes, but the grossly inaccurate queue times are another problem. If the queue time listed on my ship says "Less Than 1 Minute" it shouldn't take 20 actual minutes for me to finally give up on waiting under water. If there are people that are out of my league (obviously as I am not the best) or whatnot it should take into account the time-to on the map. Period. I'm just asking for a more accurate listing of estimated time to wait. There is no acceptable margin from one minute past 20. None.
@captain-coel said in N.A. Servers Lie About Queue Times and Cheaters in Europe...:
@lucky-oleny NA East, Central, and West are different queues. They don't mix.
Maybe they should. If it takes longer than 20 minutes to find anyone that could be a possible solution.
@melone-dog said in N.A. Servers Lie About Queue Times and Cheaters in Europe...:
@tesiccl
You do know the new thing is using cleaners? That way they can use the same account and ban evade, doesn't work 100% but if they can logout and clean before Rare looks into it, their account has been cleaned and they're cheating again.
Also, regarding cheating software- while anti-cheat is still in the works (see the latest video from the team where Drew discusses the new GDK and DirectX 11/12 implementation), it is currently extremely hard to track down specific cheat software/third party stuff because of basic cybersecurity. So, with the high turnover/development of third-party cheats (sometimes it's just fov) and using cleaners, it's almost impossible for Rare to keep up with responsive action, which is why implementation of preventive measures is so needed.
Wow. I didn't even know that. It's been a while since I talked to that confirmed cheater. He didn't mention a "cleaner" back then.
@lucky-oleny record their toxicity and submit a player report they will at least get a yellow beard for that and you won't see them for at least a few dayz rare actually take toxicity very seriously I've had multiple players banned the exact same way screenshot of text on screen helps too
@lucky-oleny said in N.A. Servers Lie About Queue Times and Cheaters in Europe...:
@captain-coel said in N.A. Servers Lie About Queue Times and Cheaters in Europe...:
@lucky-oleny for cheaters just record and report. all EU servers are part of the same queue so even changing seas you will still get the same opponents.
Queue times are a seperate issue. The reason they can be inaccurate is they are based of off the Servanta or Guardians times for the region, in this case NA east, central, or west. The issue is they are an average of all crew types. So Solo-Sloop, Duo-Sloop, Brigantine, and Galleon. So if it dmsays less than 1 minute or 1-2 min for a queue time, it means there is an active boat type, it doesn't mean you will queue in that time.
@tesiccl said in N.A. Servers Lie About Queue Times and Cheaters in Europe...:
@lucky-oleny if you suspect people of cheating then record it and submit it to support to get them banned.
Regarding queue times. It’s an average based on all ships with hourglass voted down, not who is in the queue in the tunnels.
I don't have recording software on my PC to record them. No, I will not obtain some JUST to record some loser cheaters that will be right back in game the next day. I also can confirm reporting them doesn't actually accomplish anything. I have talked with a confirmed cheater to understand and can confirm when they get "banned" they just make a new account or even buy a used one and come right back. Again and again (there are actually people out there that make accounts, obtain a few things, then sell said account, then repeat the process). I even watched him get banned in front of me, and he contacted me on a whole new account. Showing me screen shots of his "beard" ban message. Oddly enough, he never got banned for cheating. They banned him because he used the cheat engine to unlock cosmetics.
What I find interesting is my Eurpean crewmate and I kept getting queued with the SAME cheaters each time. As if in ALL of Europe there were no other players except our two duo sloops.
If your queue comments are accurate that is a bad idea. It should be based on those in queue. My map said "Less Than 1 Minute" and I stood in queue under water, for no less than 20 minutes. That is a flagrant problem that my map said "Less Than 1 Minute." Not an "oopsie." Not to mention, I am to believe out of ALL the N.A. servers, no one was queued underwater as well? If the queue times are longer it SHOULD communicate that. I shouldn't be led to queue with a false prediction. I can understand a few minutes even. Maybe it says "Less Than 1" but it actually takes 4 or 6. No. Things need to change.
I love this game and I'm not meaning to attack anyone responding to my post. To me it seems obvious that things need to change.The xbox gamebar has game dvr
