Mouse and Keyboard Support In Xbox Only Lobbies Suggestion (With Good Reasoning)

  • Hello Rare! I have more of a request than anything but with a good reason. I am a HUGE fan of the Sea of Thieves game you all have created. I play the game specifically on Mouse and Keyboard because in general I am a better player on Mouse and Keyboard and I enjoy the feeling of playing an open world game on MnK. It's just more enjoyable. To note, I am on the Xbox Series X, and I only play MnK. I do not play controller at all on any other games. And the only way to play MnK in this specific game is to play in PC lobbies. Now I have absolutely nothing against being in PC lobbies other than the fact that every day I come across hackers. Literally every day. It makes me want to play in Xbox lobbies, but I can't use the MnK. Now considering this, since you guys added Aim Assist for controller players, would you guys now consider adding MnK support for Xbox only lobbies due to the fact of the implement of Aim Assist? I think it would be fair now, because obviously without Aim Assist, MnK would destroy controller players. But now that's not the fact. For example, I play Hourglass PC lobbies with my buddy who has a controller who uses Aim Assist and is significantly holding his own against sweaty MnK PC players. We have come close to sinking many PC Streamers and have already sunk PC Streamers with him being a controller player. That being said, I think MnK should be considered coming to Xbox Only Lobbies. Controller now has the ability to smoke MnK players. But the other reason I am asking for the implement of MnK in Xbox Lobbies is because of the amount of hackers that keep getting in the game DAILY. Yes, I could just simply report the hackers because I also stream and have all the proof in the world, but that wouldn't do no good because the hackers just make another account or modify the license ban on their PC to get back in the game with the account that got banned. That being said, I hope you guys please consider this, because I still want to play the game, but only on MnK :).

    PS, as we know, there are TONS of Xim Players that already have MnK capabilities in Console Lobbies, (Now with Aim Assist), already, so please take into consideration why I am asking for full MnK support on console lobbies. Thanks guys!

    I also want to mention there are MANY successful games that have Mouse and Keyboard support on Xbox that do not require or force you, to play in Crossplay/PC Lobbies. For example, Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2&3, The Finals, Fortnite (If you turn off crossplay on your console settings), Halo, Ark Survival, Minecraft, Zombie Army 4: Dead War, War Thunder, etc...

    To sum it up:

    1. PC Hackers ruin the game for me on Xbox just because I desire to play MnK

    2. Aim Assist is now available to ALL controller players, and it is SIGNIFICANTLY strong

    3. Xim Players are everywhere in SoT and have MnK capabilities in console lobbies. Not only that, now they have Aim Assist too.

    (Personally, I should not have to suffer the consequences of playing against hackers in PC lobbies just because I desire to play a specific input which forces me to play with them)

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  • I agree even as a controller player

  • @usaxarmystrong no.

    simply put.

    I'm a pc+controller player and I can't use the lobbies because it's console+controller. They should have been imput based lobbies.

    You underestimate the aim assist for controllers.

  • @captain-coel many games have MnK support for xbox only lobbies. You make no since with no disrespect intended. With that being said, I was one of if not the best console player on SoT with no aim assist. I think if someone wants to play MnK on console then they should be able to do so. Instead we are punished by fighting hackers on pc making the game not enjoyable. You are on pc. This is why you are stuck in pc lobbies. Pc players dog walk console players 80% of the time because of frames and less input delay. Like I said man... very respectfully you make no since

  • @Captain-Coel Input based lobbies wouldn't fix the issue I'm even suggesting above. I would still be playing with PC Hackers most definitely even in input based lobbies. That would defeat the purpose of my post. As a bonus, PC players HAVE the right and ability to play both desired inputs on their platform without crossplay needed. We on Xbox however, are locked into using a controller only input with other Xbox players. We should have the same ability to use whatever input we want like you guys can on PC, but only against Xbox players. Forcing crossplay for an input is reasonable because I do understand why it's a thing, but what I'm trying to say is, we on console shouldn't have to suffer from PC players hacking against us just because of a desired input. You guys on PC already can get 240+ frames per second. What you're saying makes it sound like you just want to bully Xbox players locked at 30, 60, or 120 frames per second.

  • I play the game specifically on Mouse and Keyboard

    So you already have a pc with game installed and using MnK
    But some reason you wanna play on Xbox using MnK because….

  • @burnbacon I don't know if you're referring to me or Captain Coel, but just in case you're referring to me, I do not own a PC. I can't afford it. I am only on Xbox as I stated above in my post.

  • I was actually just about to complain about people who are tricking the system and using their keyboards in controller only servers...
    so a big no on this one. conroller only servers are already at threat by "hack the xbox so I can use my keyboard"

  • @usaxarmystrong you can use what ever input you want, on the everyone lobbies. Deal with it. If you want to play console only, puck up your controller, it came with one. This was all addressed at the release of the split lobbies. Honestly with the hardware on the series x|s they should just combine them together again. they were mostly made to protect the og xbox one against the advantages of pcs, which was mostly ssd related.

    @madladdunkling There are many games that are input based, not machine based.

    Also the series x is better than most peoples' pcs, the hardware in it is just good. Also games are optimized very well for consoles compared to pcs.

    If you are going to argue frames etc, maybe the series x and s should be with pcs and potato pcs should be xbox one...

  • @Craftergames706 you cant hack on the new xbox so idk what your even talking about

  • I'm talking about the klickity clactity of a keyboard across the mic of a strangly skilled player.

  • @craftergames706 like I said that makes no since because you cant hack on the new xbox. Only way to use a keyboard on controller lobbies at this moment is a Xim or Cronus Zen

  • so... hacking software?

  • @captain-coel The games that allow console players to play MnK with out being in cross platform lobbies know what they are doing. Aka Call of Duty. You can play Mouse and Keyboard even being in xbox only lobbies on Call of Duty. You're argument isn't valid in my opinion.

  • @captain-coel Dude you aren't making any sense. Sounds like you are upset because I'm fighting for the Xbox player community to get us out of playing against hackers on your PC platform just because we want to use MnK. As I have already stated, I have absolutely nothing against being in a PC lobby. The only thing that is annoying about PC lobbies is the amount of hackers you guys have on there. WE on XBOX should not be forced into crossplay in a game full of hackers. What's not to understand? And as I already stated, there are Xim players in Xbox Only lobbies using MnK in Xbox only lobbies. So we should opt out of crossplay and just stick to our own platforms with the desire of whatever input we want. MnK is already being cheated into xbox only lobbies anyway because of third party devices so they should just implement it on xbox without forced crossplay

  • @craftergames706 Its not hacking. Believe it not Call of Duty has partnered with Cronus in the past. I have never seen anyone banned for it although it gives a unfair advantage so it would technically be cheating with a 3rd party device, but you dont have "hacks"

  • 3rd party software=hacking. no exceptions. (according to rare)

  • @madladdunkling games like halo split it based on input. your point? there are multiple ways to do it. this is what sea of thieves has chosen.

    @USAxARMYSTRONG I'm not upset at all. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of your request. You want to use an input with known advantages because you have a console. there is a reason why the xim and similar are considered cheating. Rare wants it to be a equal playing ground, that's why your mnk isn't allowed. you want to be on xbox lobbies, but when the push for those lobbies existed, those players don't want you on their servers. They want it to be controller only.

  • @ Keyboard don't have a advantage on xbox. it is vastly different on the xbox to pc. For example youspend more time in a barrel because the mouse does not reset to the middle of screen everytime you go into a barrel. there's more of a disadvantage being on xbox beside aiming guns

  • @captain-coel Input with known advantages before the implementation of Aim Assist, yes. Input with known advantages after the implementation of Aim Assist, no. I have felt what it's like to use a controller on SoT to see how it felt before and after this Aim Assist was implemented. I have also played controller on COD MW 2019 & MW2, and the SoT aim assist is significantly stronger than those games. I do not play controller any longer, because it's no fun for me anymore. MnK all the way. But with forced crossplay full of hacking going on? No way. Fix the PC Hacking issue, for sure all day keep it the way it is.

  • Terrible idea, there are a hundred other items that are not balanced besides Aim Assist.

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