no one wants to join an alliance becuase no one trusts anyone and makes the game toxic and unfair for solo players who are easily overwhelmed so please add some sort of penility to those who sink allied ships like a 70 percent reduction in all gold and rep earned
alliance betrayal
@pithyrumble i was only fishing and decided to help then clear an fort of fortune before they sunk my ship
@wonderwaffle559 everyone will sink a solo sloop if it means more gold for themselves i know from experience
You don't have to trust someone to be in an alliance with them. The most interesting alliances are the ones where you can't trust your alliance members. In my experience, alliances are all about convincing the other alliance members that what you can offer is greater than the security they would have if they sink you or chase you off.
@gaudierpuppy866 and tell me how exaclty are solo sloop supposed to convince them when they can easily be sunk when they are away form their ship at the very list traitors should have an aura around their ship that last for one or several days showing everyone that they will betray when they get the chance
@foambreaker said in alliance betrayal:
The losing crew wants to punish the winners in PvP.
/facepalm
Nah. Someone just got an intro to SoT Alliances lol
@pithyrumble @gaudierpuppy866 doesnt change the fact the solo sloops are easily sunk by just about everyone if their not gods at the game which most aren't and @Lleorb how exaclty does that make it balanced when only a few solo sloop would be able to even put up a fight, that counting that their even on their ship
@pithyrumble no but they undoudingly planned to after they finished loading up the loot form the fort
@cyrus3681 said in alliance betrayal:
@pithyrumble no but they undoudingly planned to after they finished loading up the loot form the fort
Yeah. It happens. Someone wanted to play villian for a bit. You walked right into the trap. Did they promise you loot? It happens. Laugh about it. Well played! Love (hate lol) being on the receiving end of a good ambush. Even if I totally see them coming and just play along.
Anyway better luck next time tho. Seriously, read my alliance advice and apply it. You'll be dodging sketchy Alliances easily very quickly lol.
@pithyrumble no they did not, I was just fishing for battle gill before I thought to help them beat the boss
@cyrus3681 said in alliance betrayal:
@gaudierpuppy866 that will maybe work for like 10 seconds
I respectfully disagree. If you threaten to leave the alliance if they try to board your ship, there is no risk free way for them to make sure you really have a second crew member, since said second crew member could sail away and leave the alliance if he or she exists.
@gaudierpuppy866 all It takes is one person to take a quick look to see there is no second person, and if their is the person has the drop on them becuase the other crewmate gave her away, and if they see your lying they drop your anchor and sink you, your argument is rendered moot
@cyrus3681
You should have left immediately after the boss fight. They were protecting their loot. Probably been sunk by an "imjustfishin" pirate before.
There's sometimes a back (stab) story you don't know about.
I'm not saying you were in the wrong for wanting to help out. Use your mic and tell then you want to help, heck admit you want a completion. If they don't talk back leave asap after the pve threat is gone, or even a little sooner if you're trying to get a completion. You don't have to be there for the pve kill to count to your total.
Did it suck? Yeah. But it's all part and parcel of the game.
@cyrus3681 betrayal is part of the system iv been in plenty of alliances that worked out great and who came for us it's all part of the risk and reward system in the game but as for being overwhelmed as a solo player SoT isn't meant to be played solo it's meant to play with a crew and there's tools for finding crews and guilds but if you prefer solo then KNOW your playing on hard mode that's your choice there's zero reason to make the game easier for someone who doesn't wanna play with others in a game designed for multiplayer....nothing against you personally
@pithyrumble i did tell them and guess what they went back to their ship and sunk me becuase I was away there needs to be consequences otherwise new players will either be driven away becuase they cant do anything against other or become toxic themsleves
@cyrus3681 said in alliance betrayal:
@gaudierpuppy866 all It takes is one person to take a quick look to see there is no second person, and if their is the person has the drop on them becuase the other crewmate gave her away, and if they see your lying they drop your anchor and sink you, your argument is rendered moot
They can only get the drop on your second crewmate if they know where he or she is. There are plenty of places where a crewmate can hide using emotes and keep tabs on what happens near the ship. Furthermore, you can put loot on your ship to create spaces to hide with emotes. Your alliance members may get lucky and guess where your crewmate is hiding, but the odds favor the alleged crewmate far more than your alliance members. Furthermore, they have no idea how good your crewmate is. It makes sense to have the person who is best at PvP stay on your ship, so for all they know, they could be taking on a 5000 hour PvP god.
@cyrus3681
You need to lose the whole "they didn't do what I wanted so they're toxic" thing.
You were toxic for bothering their fort. You could have stayed on your ship fishing for battlegills, but you tried to steal their fort. That they paid 100 doubloons to get a Skull of Fortune or actually bothered to gather all the lights to start it with a ritual skull.
The toxic door swings both ways and you were the one being toxic.
Hyperbolic, but then so are you currently.
Sucks for you that you interrupted someone's fort and they decided to deal with you instead of sharing.
It's all a matter of perspective.
Calm down. Have a cookie. Take a deep breath. Leave game, come back later.
✌️git gud
@pithyrumble i was there before they were and it was a naturally occurring fort not the fort of the damned
@pithyrumble and they left me alone for a bit as I caught fish but instantly when I left my ship after saying I would help them they sunk me, they wanted the alliance and I never said once that I wanted any of their treasure
@cyrus3681 said in alliance betrayal:
@pithyrumble i was there before they were and it was a naturally occurring fort not the fort of the damned
and they decided to deal with you instead of sharing
Maybe leave when another crew shows up? You wanted to fish battlegills right? Wouldn't have gone ashore had the other crew not shown up?
You do understand the betrayal looks YOU were giving? Because I would have (attempted, I'm bad at pvp) sunk you without forming an alliance if I were doing a fort
You can fish Battlegills in SS btw.
@pithyrumble hard to do on solo sloop seeing how you have to keep repairing becuase of skely ship and it is impossible to just swim to an outpost
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