Solo only servers

  • Ok, so I solo sloop a LOT. sure, it's lonely, but other than that, it's fine!

    EXCEPT... when you go against a bigger crew with more

    • People
    • Cannons
    • sails

    Now this has been going on for the longest time, but with safer seas+ the rebalancing of sails and double gunning, I hope we can rebalance this as well.

    To be frank, alongside safer seas and high seas, we would now also have "solo seas." So "solo seas" puts everyone on the same level. everyone has a sloop, and no-one can invite crewmates.
    Thus, allowing solo players to go against each other, instead of going against whole galleons!

    Now, before someone says, "team game, get friends." SOME people can't "Get friends." some people have social anxiety,
    some people are autistic, and drive people away due to their special interests. some people just find it hard to make friends.
    solo servers would fix all this, providing a safe space for solo players to meet people, "get good" and eventually move to high seas (if they have made friends.)

    thanks for reading!

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  • It would still be high seas the difference is the crew roster you choose.

    Add a solo sloop roster as a fourth option.

    So you would choose between solo sloop, sloop, brigantine or galleon.

    If you choose solo sloop, you are put on a server with other solo sloops exclusively and cannot invite a friend or open your crew as it is full

    If you choose sloop, you are put on a server with full crews and are free to invite a friend or open your crew at anytime

  • @GunshyTen255133 basically, yes.

  • @craftergames706 I would cut the number of servers that all players could use. This opens a bigger chance of alliance servers and PVE servers. I don’t see the need to do this l. I play mostly solo and don’t see the need for this. It’s a weak argument to still try and create PVE servers. I don’t know where you guys play but I see mostly sloops on the seas anyways. A server full of galleons would be fun!

    Safer seas will exist in the game, no need to expand on it. If you wanna play solo and not ever see bigger ships go there shrug 🤷🏼‍♂️

    The give an inch they’ll expect a mile is insane. WE haven’t even gotten safer seas and players are saying it isn’t good enough. They nerfed DA Sails now it’s the cannon flares that are the problem.

    Can we just play a game without a bunch of complaints and victim status of why the game should be as I want it and that favors ME winning not others.

  • @Jon-Sea-Nah
    I am just asking for a mode that caters to solo players, whist still including pvp.
    nowhere close to the pve servers you frame them as, and alliance servers would actually be LESS efficient.

  • Why can't I solo a galleon in this mode?

  • @craftergames706 said in Solo only servers:

    @Jon-Sea-Nah
    I am just asking for a mode that caters to solo players, whist still including pvp.
    nowhere close to the pve servers you frame them as, and alliance servers would actually be LESS efficient.

    I’m not saying YOU, but you see that this opens a world where PVE servers and alliance servers would be a problem right?

    The people who pick it would do so to avoid a fight, so a bunch of servers catered to people whom don’t like the risk of larger ships sinking them…… get their own servers, and everything would be as it is on high seas, ya no. Too big of an opportunity to cheese.

    What about Brig only, gally only, duo sloop only. This opens a Pandora’s box for no real reason

  • this opens a world where PVE servers and alliance servers would be a problem right?

    it already is a problem.

    The people who pick it would do so to avoid a fight

    or people looking for a fair one...

    What about Brig only, gally only, duo sloop only. This opens a Pandora’s box for no real reason.

    pandora's box is already open with the imminent arrival of safer seas.

  • @d3adst1ck said in Solo only servers:

    Why can't I solo a galleon in this mode?

    Solo brig mode too!!!!

  • Define fair? This is a very interesting experiment because fair play s never FAIR. You see what’s fair to you is probably not fair to me and what’s fair to me is not what’s fair to you….. right.

    So it should be fair to solo SLOOPERS BUT ONLY THEM? You see because brigs fight galleons, duos fight galleons, do they not deserve a “fair” fight? What about supplies, others argue that me being on a server for a long time and have 20+ chains and 10+ cursed balls is unfair? Do we limit that? What about someone like me who is comfortable soloing a galleon, is it fair if I go to the solo only and whomp on people or is that going to be deemed unfair and we have to make it so dbl gunners have to play on different servers? Days in game?

    All of these things play into “fair” when nothing is ever fair…… EVER.

  • we would now also have "solo seas." So "solo seas" puts everyone on the same level. everyone has a sloop, and no-one can invite crewmates.

    What stopping two solo sloops, teaming up just to sink 1 ship? It they could be on a single Sloop ship thus becoming a Duo and they come to sink you. Is that still balanced? Its 1 v 2 now.

    Social Anxiety, that is a poor excuse for playing an Online game and wanting only Single sloop vs solo sloops. It still the same thing. Autistic is another poor excuse. You dont need to make friends, sometimes you best friend is yourself, Trust issues. :P Pirates Life.

    solo servers would fix all this

    No, it just be Empty servers.

  • @burnbacon I don’t trust myself sometimes in this game lol extreme piracy problems

  • 100% not a fan of further fracturing the player base. Hard pass on this idea.

  • @craftergames706 lol oooooook let’s here how an alliance server wouldn’t happen here as it would be less efficient, how would it be less efficient? And what about duo sloops? Or brigs? Do they not deserve a more “fair” fight?

  • No thanks to me. Bigger ships doesnt mean much, especially considering out of all ships, when any have 1 less crew member than full, the sloop is the only one that is actually viable in pvp. A solo is more viable than a 2 man brig or 3 man galleon in pvp, and it was more viable before the sloop mast and spawn timers were reworked.

    Its not about the raw number of people or cannons, its about how the ships work, and the sloop, even though its slow, is the most maneuverable and tanky. As well theres no reason to split up the playerbase over a play style that was never intended yet was buffed a bit anyways.

    If anyone deserves exclusive servers, its galleons since its the easiest ship to sink! But no one vouches for that strange enough.

  • @craftergames706 quite frankly, this would be a huge and inefficient use of Rare’s servers to host sessions on. There’s a reason why they optimise them to be as full as possible, because not only does it provide for more exciting gameplay, but from a business standpoint, saves them money, power, and effort.

  • @tesiccl said in Solo only servers:

    @craftergames706 quite frankly, this would be a huge and inefficient use of Rare’s servers to host sessions on. There’s a reason why they optimise them to be as full as possible, because not only does it provide for more exciting gameplay, but from a business standpoint, saves them money, power, and effort.

    Why are you trying to use that as an argument when Safer Seas can hold one crew with up to four players on a server whereas the solo sloop crew roster would support up to 6 solos on a server at once.

    Last time I checked 6 was more than 4.

    Besides Rare recently divulged to us that a single azure server can spin up and run many separate instances of the adventure world.

    This isn’t about money it’s about fairness for solo players.

  • @gunshyten255133 said in Solo only servers:

    @tesiccl said in Solo only servers:

    @craftergames706 quite frankly, this would be a huge and inefficient use of Rare’s servers to host sessions on. There’s a reason why they optimise them to be as full as possible, because not only does it provide for more exciting gameplay, but from a business standpoint, saves them money, power, and effort.

    Why are you trying to use that as an argument when Safer Seas can hold one crew with up to four players on a server whereas the solo sloop crew roster would support up to 6 solos on a server at once.

    Last time I checked 6 was more than 4.

    Besides Rare recently divulged to us that a single azure server can spin up and run many separate instances of the adventure world.

    This isn’t about money it’s about fairness for solo players.

    As stated above, the people that need fairness are galleons because its easier to sink a decent galleon than a decent solo.

    But the reason his argument stands up is the same reason why the maiden voyage is single player. Safer seas is intended as an extension to the tutorial, not a full play style. Most people are going to eventually find them selves in high seas eventually. Be it cause they are bored of how limited it is, or being enticed by the fact that with emissaries, in high seas you make about %700-%800 more gold in the same time span.

  • Big NO on this one.

  • I respect the idea - but I think it would further segment the player base in a negative way that might seem like a good idea, but ultimately have unanticipated negatives.

    A side note on this, and I have no data to support it - but frankly I find the solo sloop to be the most dangerous ship on the sea. A solo-sloop-only session wouldn't necessarily balance the scales either, because you might find yourself surrounded by top-tier solo attack boats, vs a few mediocre brigs / galleons, and still find yourself pounded into dust with no way to leverage your Sloop as a tactical advantage.

  • @goldsmen I can’t wait for the inevitable forum posts of “Safer Seas is so boring”, “waaahhh there’s nothing to do”, “add players into it” etc.

  • @tesiccl said in Solo only servers:

    @goldsmen I can’t wait for the inevitable forum posts of “Safer Seas is so boring”, “waaahhh there’s nothing to do”, “add players into it” etc.

    People already say its going to be boring and they need to add more because of its restrictions, and its not even out yet! No need to wait to see it!

  • boring, i want all of us on one server creating insanity, solo-sloops, solo-gallys and solo-brigs.

  • @locke5474677 said in Solo only servers:

    boring, i want all of us on one server creating insanity, solo-sloops, solo-gallys and solo-brigs.

    Soloing the brigantine or galleon is putting yourself at a further disadvantage.

    The whole point of introducing solo only servers is to remove any disadvantages from choosing to play the game solo.

    But if you wish then why not as long as your crew is locked to being one pirate only.

  • @discobugle09896 sagte in Solo only servers:

    @locke5474677 said in Solo only servers:

    boring, i want all of us on one server creating insanity, solo-sloops, solo-gallys and solo-brigs.

    Soloing the brigantine or galleon is putting yourself at a further disadvantage.

    The whole point of introducing solo only servers is to remove any disadvantages from choosing to play the game solo.

    But if you wish then why not as long as your crew is locked to being one pirate only.

    but have you seen me solo a gally?

  • @locke5474677

    I would love to sink you as you solo a gally.

    Assuming you haven’t went around the map and allied up with three other solos to form a make shift crew haha.

  • If you want a lower risk just sail on safer seas. No reason to further divide the game

  • @captain-fob4141 said in Solo only servers:

    If you want a lower risk just sail on safer seas. No reason to further divide the game

    Safer seas is limited to one crew only. It’s not a solution to full crews vs solo.

    It’s not dividing the game it’s balancing adventure mode based on crew size.

    The developers intended the sloop to be a two person ship, the brigantine a three person ship and the galleon a four person ship.

    Notice how I didn’t mention a ship intended to be used by a solo player. Because there isn’t a ship that was intended to be used by a solo player.

    Solo play is not truly supported in Sea of Thieves. It could be but it’s still not five years later.

    If you lurk the SoT Reddit you know that one of the most common questions is how is the solo experience?

    Imagine if the developers took the opportunity to improve the solo PvP experience by keeping full crews on servers together and solos on servers together?

    And of course for the solo Gods out there that feel the game is not challenging unless they are fighting full crews simply load in as a duo sloop closed crew and just never fill your other spot on your crew.

  • @discobugle09896 not saying it’s your intention but here’s how this looks. Rare adds safer seas, against everything they said they’d ever do, it’s very limited as it should be so that players use it as further training or to have a little less stress from time to time. Now that it’s being added, before it’s even been delivered mind you, and we are hearing “it’s not enough” “we want more ships on safer seas, but ONLY a specific type” “it’s out of fairness”.

    So I am personally concerned and I think a lot of others are as well with people now seeing a crack in the door and just demanding PVE servers. I know that this isn’t calling for that per se, but you see the slow consistent march towards that correct?

    The other thing I see happening is Gold Curse EVERYWHERE. Why? Well now you can cheese it, do it with no danger. Do we ask for HG against Bot crews next? These are some of the concerns that we have. It just becomes too watered down too fast

  • I have played and do play this game a wild amount but my play is still quite comparable to the majority.

    Defense pvp, enjoy pve, not interested in or skilled at tdm, etc

    Imo the solo experience has improved as significantly as the overall environment has. The features, the conveniences, the environment of random adventure play.

    Solo pvp can be irritating and frustrating just like it is for most people in this game, just like it is solo v solo, just like it is for inexperienced galleon crews, pretty much any pvp that isn't just brig crews racing around servers annoying people with the speed can be quite frustrating sometimes.

    Imo some solos significantly underestimate how much random shared servers truly benefit them in the end and significantly overestimate how competitive they will be in solo v solo fights in a post HG world where solos have the naval now with their tdm and are far more tuned in with fight fundamentals than in the past.

    I hope it never happens, the tough part of solo is getting past fighting against what isn't rather than working with/around what is. After that it gets more manageable.

  • @discobugle09896 solo play is supported as a hard mode. If you want an easier way to learn the game play on safer seas. If you want a harder mode with others play on high seas. This game is intended as a social sandbox game. If you don't like the player interaction go to safer seas. There really isn't and shouldn't be an in between.

    The devs are already wasting their time developing safer seas, solo seas would just further divert their time.

  • @captain-fob4141 said in Solo only servers:

    @discobugle09896 solo play is supported as a hard mode. If you want an easier way to learn the game play on safer seas. If you want a harder mode with others play on high seas. This game is intended as a social sandbox game. If you don't like the player interaction go to safer seas. There really isn't and shouldn't be an in between.

    The devs are already wasting their time developing safer seas, solo seas would just further divert their time.

    Wow your response really shows a lot about you.

    I know how to play the game and I like player interactions.

    The issue is that solo players are at a significant disadvantage against full crews and have always been.

    IMO it’s something that if properly remedied would benefit the game.

    And your last comment about how it’s a waste of time for the devs to develop safer seas shows just a ton of arrogance.

  • @discobugle09896 said in Solo only servers:

    @captain-fob4141 said in Solo only servers:

    @discobugle09896 solo play is supported as a hard mode. If you want an easier way to learn the game play on safer seas. If you want a harder mode with others play on high seas. This game is intended as a social sandbox game. If you don't like the player interaction go to safer seas. There really isn't and shouldn't be an in between.

    The devs are already wasting their time developing safer seas, solo seas would just further divert their time.

    Wow your response really shows a lot about you.

    I know how to play the game and I like player interactions.

    The issue is that solo players are at a significant disadvantage against full crews and have always been.

    IMO it’s something that if properly remedied would benefit the game.

    And your last comment about how it’s a waste of time for the devs to develop safer seas shows just a ton of arrogance.

    Fob is a very kind soul here on the forums, all his response shows is that he doesnt want the game to change too drastically, much like many of us!

  • @discobugle09896 said in Solo only servers:

    @captain-fob4141 said in Solo only servers:

    @discobugle09896 solo play is supported as a hard mode. If you want an easier way to learn the game play on safer seas. If you want a harder mode with others play on high seas. This game is intended as a social sandbox game. If you don't like the player interaction go to safer seas. There really isn't and shouldn't be an in between.

    The devs are already wasting their time developing safer seas, solo seas would just further divert their time.

    Wow your response really shows a lot about you.

    I know how to play the game and I like player interactions.

    The issue is that solo players are at a significant disadvantage against full crews and have always been.

    IMO it’s something that if properly remedied would benefit the game.

    And your last comment about how it’s a waste of time for the devs to develop safer seas shows just a ton of arrogance.

    And here’s my problem here in the forums and Fob is generally a chill dude so if a warning rolls out I’ll take that.

    You don’t get to call people ignorant, arrogant, or anything else because they have a different opinion than you. Most of us seem to be of similar opinion that what you are asking for is too big of a change to the game and would impact the servers/world in a way most view as negative.

    You can echo as much as you’d like that solo isn’t supported, but you’re saying it to a bunch of solo sloop players that seems to accept these things and be ok with it.

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