add quick swap back when safer seas come out

Not really. Safer seas is pretty limited, so lots of people will still play on high seas that aren’t PvP hungry. You can’t run captaincy or emissaries on safer seas, so anyone wanting milestones or the ledger rewards have to play on normal servers. Can’t do FOTD or FoF, can’t do anything Athena. Athena commendation for the shrouded ghost might not count(only time will tell, but they said they are disabling athena stuff, so I’d expect this to be true).

As much as people can do on safer seas, there’s tons to still make people want to play normal. I suspect the majority of people who currently play on normal servers are going to just keep playing on them and only use safer seas when they are wanting to fish or something super chill. Then it’ll be the new and returning players that use it until they realize there’s more out there and try high seas for the good stuff.

Guilds won’t be on safer seas, because you have to have a captain ship to have a guild, so the entire content of season 10 will be unavailable to safer seas. Siren songs skull and chest of fortune too, only high seas. So I’m not too worried about it being only sweats in high seas and I don’t think they need to revert something they just added unless it just doesn’t work right.

No thanks, its still an exploit used to get an advantage that the devs never intended and tried to remove once already. This is done to make double gun balanced and on par with sword/gun play, rather than have an advantage over it.

@goldsmen I would argue that Double Gun is now near on level with the sword as once you get hit once the only way to survive (without the sword) is to run and spam eat, so a swap is a skill learnt to balance this and only a small percent of players are even aware of how to do this well so it has little effect on the most fight but the small per cent of "skilled" players will find new methods to kill others faster. and high seas should be more pvp focused for these reasons and small advantages players can learn and master should be keept a thing

I don't remember seeing you post that red running should be returned when that was taken out.

Take that 2x gunners 😂

@hurtwillcam10 your assumption is all pvpers double gun and only pve’rs use sword and gun? Sorry dude, you’re wrong. A terrible suggestion also considering the quick swap is an exploit and has been confirmed by Rare for a long time it is, now they’re finally doing something about it.

there needs to be a clear progresion of pvp development thought some meta

SoT isn’t a competitive FPS, it doesn’t need a meta.

or finally add a new method rare saw a balanced to allow for douple gunning to be better then a sword as it does require slightly more skill and currently seems like its weaker, personly i just feal that there needs to be a clear progresion of pvp development thought some meta undiniable better then the rest

@pithyrumble picks your mic up Pithy you dropped this!

@pithyrumble ???

@hurtwillcam10 said in add quick swap back when safer seas come out:

@goldsmen I would argue that Double Gun is now near on level with the sword as once you get hit once the only way to survive (without the sword) is to run and spam eat, so a swap is a skill learnt to balance this and only a small percent of players are even aware of how to do this well so it has little effect on the most fight but the small per cent of "skilled" players will find new methods to kill others faster. and high seas should be more pvp focused for these reasons and small advantages players can learn and master should be keept a thing

Considering before made it so you could near instantly kill some one even if you are too far with a blunder to get a 1 shot kill, and you cant do so with a sword if you miss most of a blunder shot, im going to say it is a good balancing choice.

All this will do is make double gunners have to think more strategically than "tap shift and let go of w to win instantly!", and make them have to think about positioning much more, just like how sword users have to do.

@foambreaker No because it makes TDM fight fast-paced and more skill is required to kill others fast (also it's the only way I can really kill a sword spammer) but if with these updates to sword they get slightly nerfed i will be ok with no quick swap

@foambreaker sword requires little to no skill it great for new players but as you learn how to pvp or even just tdm you reliese that guns are better and reuier more skill to use but spaming left click don't feal fun unless you are new

@hurtwillcam10 said in add quick swap back when safer seas come out:

@foambreaker (also it's the only way I can really kill a sword spammer).

🤔 you probably shouldn't admit that...

@pithyrumble probaly not

@crowedhunter not telling you to leave but the pve community that runs from fights are likely to use safer seas. cause sword is a proggesion of pvp

@hurtwillcam10 sorry for any misunderstanding but these where 2 spetate points and not linked

@otherfanboy said in add quick swap back when safer seas come out:

@goldsmen I agree tho I will say sword dashing through water was a exploit originally and now is a feature also you can block and charge a sword dash for faster movement but it hasn't even been talked about as far as iv seen

That was entirely rares choice to keep and improve it, but they clearly saw double gun as an exploit in need of fixing. Its up to rare what they deem as an exploit, and this is one of those cases.

People who claim the sword "takes no skill" clearly have never tried to use the sword beyond M1-ing themselves. All playstyles are valid and the sword is the easiest entry level weapon of the four, but to use the sword requires good understanding of positioning, it's timing, block/dodge mechanics, etc. It ISN'T just an M1 spamfest if you actually like using the sword, it's just the easiest method for new/inexperienced players.
I'm a devil with Sword/Eye of Reach, and that sword lunge is a huge part of it. Land off a perfect lunge, you can take out a whole crew with it, it's incredibly fun and i love the mobility a sword provides over double gunning. There needs to be a lot of balance passes for ALL weapons, but two guns are not objectively or skillfully superior to a sword, it's just an alternate playstyle.
Edit because i wasn't done: The removal of quickswapping just serves to even the playing field in the sense that a new player with little experience isn't about to get 2 tapped in less than a second by a meta god. These are big, bulky pirate era weapons, you should not be able to quickdraw them like side revolvers. I understand that the muscle memory and technique makes people feel like they've progressed in skill, and i can relate in the sense that progression in this game IS linear, but i think people that are mad that the animation has been fixed in a way that gives other players a fighting chance, need to reconsider that quickswap double gunning is a very small (but yes, dedicated) part of the community. Game isn't going to die from its removal, just adapt and have fun with the game. I've seen people threatening to uninstall over it, as if it's the only thing keeping them around. Want a competitive FPS, play Valorant or Counterstrike, not funny pirate game.

@hurtwillcam10 said in add quick swap back when safer seas come out:

@foambreaker sword requires little to no skill it great for new players but as you learn how to pvp or even just tdm you reliese that guns are better and reuier more skill to use but spaming left click don't feal fun unless you are new

*in your opinion. Others may/may not feel that way. I can think of a few sword-lords that have wiped entire ships without problems, Blurbs, Hitbo for starters. I wouldn't count them as 'new' players having n no skill lol.

@europa4033 no but they dont spam, if players didnt just left click and use there block i would change my opinion but when they just spam i believe ether buff douple gunning or nerf the sword to make an even playing field for all methods of play but hitbo blurbs ect dont just use the sword they will use a bunder or pistol normaly.

@hurtwillcam10

Double gunning takes no skill.
Sniper into Blunderbuss. 80% damage and only need 2/10 of the Blunderbuss pellets to hit for the kill so you can easily stay safe over in your corner.

With or without quick swap...

I don't see why you're scared of this change.

(The only true skill is naval!) scuttles

@pithyrumble ok then i kill you with the click click click click (sword)

Nah, I'm more likely taking Reaper's chests into shrines for giggles

@tesiccl

You will have to remove the animation cancellation to play the sword as well, when you start a sword dash and cancel it by taking a cannon or something else. Btw in ALL competitive or non-competitive fps there are exploits, this shows and highlights your progress and your involvement. The sword feat was added to the game at the time. So sorry dude you're wrong. and yes sword players are generally not good at aim so he prefers to use the simplest one for them.

I think there are too many people who have a say and influence decisions when they shouldn't.