No you don't because it would not be fair to controller users.

Why should you get pin point accuracy and yet the console and controllers users can eat it?

@mferr11 said in We need a mouse cannon sensitivity scale option:

@personalc0ffee Wouldn't this make things fair for everyone? Controller uses get fast joystick movement in any direction while on the cannon, but PC players only get fast 8 way directional movement with the WASD keys. With the mouse they would be able to move fast in any direction, which is the same as controller players. And since the cannon rotation speed is capped, it wouldn't be like PC players are gonna hit flick cannon shots.

Cannons are not fast by design. They want to feel like they have weight to them to move.

No it wouldn't be balanced because they would still have pinpoint accuracy and it is bad enough with the guns.

Allowing PC players to have pin point precision aim in a PvP game where they are going against non mouse users, is not fair.

@riahi-jr said in We need a mouse cannon sensitivity scale option:

@personalc0ffee No, no, no bro you are misunderstanding my request. I don't want cannons to be faster on mouse, I already explained it in the post.
Controllers can move cannons at a SET designed speed because the game is designed this way, the same applies to the WASD keys or any Mouse, you can never under any circumstances move the cannons faster regardless of your input of choice.
The issue I'm referring to is how the general aim-sensitivity on PC somehow affects the cannon speed and reduces its speed by an insane amount if your sensitivity of choice happened to be low, it's not intended it's an oversight because it only happens to people who play on low sensitivity, people who play on fast sensitivity already aim with mouse normally just like your cannon movement on controller doesn't change regardless of your camera sensitivity, your sensitivity preference shouldn't change the way cannons move.

Example: I have a sensitivity of 0.5 with a DPI of 1300 on PC, I cannot move my cannons from right to left until I move my mouse through my whole mouse pad 9 times... but somebody with a high sensitivity will able to move cannons with a mouse as if they're using a controller stick or WASD, I hope you understand the issue now.
This is as if a controller player on a very low sens is forced to use the D-PAD instead of the right analogue stick because the game somehow decided to use the overall aim sensitivity and apply it to the cannons speed, it would be like holding your right analogue stick to the edge of the deadzone for 5 seconds straight before you are able to fully go from left to right with your cannon.

Interesting..

1300 is way too low of sensitivity though. Ideally for competitive play you will want your mouse to travel across your entire mouse pad with only small movement of your hand. 9 times is horridly slow, IMO.

While they do say you should play where you are comfortable, there are limits.

This begs the question, what do pro tier e sport players use?

I'm going to guess in the range of 2000-3000 dpi.

I myself use 3500 for general computer use.

@zerrryy said in We need a mouse cannon sensitivity scale option:

@personalc0ffee Controller users HAVE pinpoint accuracy on the cannons. I have played on controller for over 2000 hours. It's very easy compared to pc. I think pc players should have the option to use their mouse

We won't agree here.

A mouse is far more accurate than a controller.

You ever tried to play an fps with a controller on PC? Most won't because it is so inaccurate compared to just using the mouse and keyboard.

@sf-lynx said in We need a mouse cannon sensitivity scale option:

Ya my aim on cannons for controller is so much better than on mouse and keys. I always found it strange that the right stick on the controller to aim cannons isn’t also the same on the mouse and that you are stuck using keys instead (which is what you use for primary movement functions like the left controller stick) and then the mouse being for smaller finer adjustments.

Aiming and viewing direction used on the right controller stick should always be the same for the mouse interaction.

They want cannons to feel they have weight to them. As for why you can't use a mouse for aiming, I can only speculate and give my opinion and it is probably because mouse has pin point accuracy and snap aiming and speed and that wouldn't be fair. The mouse moves much smoother and faster than controller sticks with their deadzones.

@riahi-jr said in We need a mouse cannon sensitivity scale option:

How did you come to that conclusion?

Because you said it. You said you had to move your mouse 9 times across the pad at 1300 dpi. To me, that's way too slow.

Put simply mouse gets advantage due to speed and precision of locating the target.

That means I am against this change.

It is already bad enough in the game as it is.

@riahi-jr said in We need a mouse cannon sensitivity scale option:

@personalc0ffee said in We need a mouse cannon sensitivity scale option:

@riahi-jr said in We need a mouse cannon sensitivity scale option:

How did you come to that conclusion?

Because you said it. You said you had to move your mouse 9 times across the pad at 1300 dpi. To me, that's way too slow.

Put simply mouse gets advantage due to speed and precision of locating the target.

That means I am against this change.

It is already bad enough in the game as it is.

Your whole argument is basically "Mouse needs to be clunky because it's already too strong"

You see how dumb that argument sounds? stop raising a strawman and stick to the topic, this isn't a discussion about controller/mouse balance, you're asking to keep a oversight from the developer regarding accessibility because it somehow helps you on a controller KNOWING people on high sensitivity already aim normally.
You're gatekeeping from Rare fixing the game because it helps your placebo on a controller, that's just sad.

Edit: Just noticed this guy is a post farmer, no wonder he ignores every point and answer one line at the time. Blocked.

I am not a post farmer. I am a Boatswain. I have been a valued member on this forum for over 5 years and while I've had my setbacks I am still a well liked member of the community. Like most regular members on this forum, I read my notifications and I read the Unread threads.

I'm gate keeping nothing.

I am, like you, giving my opinion. I am not blocking you for disagreeing with yours, you should not block me for disagreeing with mine. Echo chambers are not good things and block features should really only be used if someone is harassing you.

I said we would probably not agree and that's where I left it. I didn't see it pertinent to reply to your correct assumption that I've never played any kind of fps competitively or with a mouse. I didn't see reason to. You are correct in that regard and you feel 1300dpi is good for you and that's all that matters. Everyone plays at their own speed.

SoT is not just a mouse and keyboard game. It has to be balanced for all forms of input.

I am not keen to change my opinion when it starts to affect balance. Yes, I understand mouse users would love to aim their cannons by using the mouse but by doing so that brings up balancing problems, which frankly the game has enough of.

@goldsmen said in We need a mouse cannon sensitivity scale option:

The cannons are supposed to be slow and clunky. As far as i can tell they have a speed cap so even if you crank up your dpi, it moves just as fast as if you move them kind of slowly.

My advice is use the movement keys to move the cannon, then use the mouse for fine tuning.

This is the way.

@merlin-mav-k said in We need a mouse cannon sensitivity scale option:

Whether it moves at the same speed as a controller or not seems beside the point to me. You just have more (than is likely intended) precise level control and consistency with minor corrections with a mouse. PC play is already a turbo charged affair relative to the game's base/original design as it is, with FPS style movement, whip pan control and shooter style targeting, not to mention blazing (by comparison) menu access, use and switching. It is already a fundamentally different game control-wise between console and PC (which is why I always put my PC crossplay buddy on loot harpoon duty - he never misses).

Believe this would just add more (even if only incrementally) to that divide.

This is essentially what I was saying, without saying it and I agree here nearly 100%.

PC gets advantage over controller users, let's not add to it unless an extreme amount of balance and care has gone into such a change.

It is bad enough they can whip the camera.