With the highly anticipated announcement for xbox showcase we found out we are getting one tall tale a month for the next three months. While it will be awesome to play through I can't help but ask myself, what does this add to the game to keep players coming back. With the recent decline of players and even partnered streamers straying away to other games due to from what I have seen as lack of recent content and cheating I can't help but think is this the nail in the coffin for Sea of Thieves. Tall Tales can be played through in one night, and then it is back to no new content as I believe that is the biggest problem. Cheaters can be ignored mostly, and you can just restart, especially since it's most prevalent in hourglass, which most doesn't play anyway. But the lack of content everyone seems to be calling for is honestly sad. The Chest of Fortune addition was a new thing to go do for a while, and things like that are what most look for I believe. It isnt a huge addition but it gives a new life to the game. If something content wise via new items or things to do of that nature was added during updates, i think the game would have more life than it does now and more returning players. I believe most like to have something feasibly attainable to all with cosmetic rewards attached. Recently though, aside from the Fortune chest all we have gotten is a mode that is monotonous and has pretty unachievable goals to most players who cares not to even do it or is an annoyance to ones who do due to the cheating. We also got a way to name our ship, which is cool but not content. We are able to sit on the ship everywhere and place trinkets everywhere which I personally and several I know thankfully were able to finally switch off due to the annoyance of the interactions and it not serving any purpose. We can also look at new logs in our log books which is fun to see stats but most I know never look at it. None of this is new content. Sadly what it seems most want is being ignored. In the end this is Rares game. They choose what happens. If it sinks it sinks and I know one day the end will come for Sea of Thieves. However I always had hopes the content was just around the corner. Yet with the announcement today my heart sunk. I honestly can't see the game lasting another year. I may be wrong. I honestly hope I am. Either way, it will still be a game unlike any other and one in which I've had the greatest moments and memories in my 40 years of gaming. So what's your thoughts? Do you see a future in SoT? Do you think content will come soon? What would you like to see most in SoT?
Is this the nail in the coffin?
@burnbacon
Steam charts show a steady decline in the playerbase, and is also official stats. Sure it doesn't show gamepass and xbox players, but it is an indicator less people are playing the game. Also i have noticed that the past few months i encounter less and less people in my sessions, and servers feel empty.@burnbacon If you look around its in plain site the game is not being played as much recently. Twitch numbers,streamers not playing it, how dead it is on the seas. Its right there. Whether you wanna accept it is up to you but its very very visible. And nail in the coffin is an idiom that means it is something that will cause something to fail or be destroyed. When you bury the coffin then it is done.
@venomous-sloth7 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon If you look around its in plain site the game is not being played as much recently. Twitch numbers,streamers not playing it, how dead it is on the seas. Its right there. Whether you wanna accept it is up to you but its very very visible. And nail in the coffin is an idiom that means it is something that will cause something to fail or be destroyed. When you bury the coffin then it is done.
So wrong.
I won't even bother.
Last time I was on, few days ago, I seen at least 3 ships.
Get out of here with this dead game nonsense.
@venomous-sloth7 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon If you look around its in plain site the game is not being played as much recently. Twitch numbers,streamers not playing it, how dead it is on the seas. Its right there. Whether you wanna accept it is up to you but its very very visible. And nail in the coffin is an idiom that means it is something that will cause something to fail or be destroyed. When you bury the coffin then it is done.
I just got off my personal 6 hour play session. if I had to count the number of ships I seen, it be 40+
How many those avoided me or attacked is up in the air.Second, again dont go off by Twitch or Streamers. Not every player uses it or cares. The best know players are the ones who dont need viewers or better yet, the ones who dont need to show off :p
Seems you are the one who just wants people to accept it. Heck I always like a good day when NO ship comes across me, I get stuff done better. (unlike a few small hands who seem to be unable to even earn gold)
Again, its not the nail in the coffin. You having to "explain" it doesnt change the actual fact of what is actually going on. If you take the time to research and look around, As they say: Every cloud has a silver lining
I think I understand where you are comming from mate, but these doomsday scenarios get post once every few monthes, and its kinda pathetic, no offense.
I wanna share my own thoughts with it:- after a while you have enjoyed most there is to enjoy in the game. Thats no problem imo, thats just the natural development of things. I too dont play the game much anymore, but i have 1.5k hours in it, seen most and done everything at least a few times. No doomsday for me, just natural development.
- following up on that I feel the mistake people make is to exaggerate their own personal experience on to some "gobal issue" on the game. I think its not. Its your individual growth out of a game you have played enough.
- The game does not really decline as far as I can see, the community hub on steam shows between 10-20k players at any given moment. it has been like this since I started the game 3 years ago.
- also, if the players would decline, you most certainly would not see it in game, as there would be not less ships per server, but simply less servers.
- The game is very basic in its core. The core is fine though. I think the issue people have (me too tbh) because we like the game so much, we always fantasize about it becoming something bigger, something even better. We fantasize about mealstroms, we fantasize about a bigger map, more ships, new monsters, big, epic voyages into the shroud, our own pirate hideout in separate dungeons, etc. etc.
The reality i fear doesnt look so shiny. The reality is: Rare is a small company nowadays, has to satisfy microsoft and managers, and is thus limited by various number of things, not least the processing possibilities hardware wise (especially since they still have to cather to old xbox).
In summary I think we have to accept the reality that the game will never become really "more" than it alrdy is.
Ofc. the advertisment on Rare`s part always tries to paint a different picture for us to get hooked on. But thats just marketing managment nowadays, its the same with every game. I personally despise it, but its hard to blame Rare for that, as its industry standard.@burnbacon I played EVE Online since 2005. Every few days there is a "EVE is dying" post on their forums.
They just celebrated their 20 year anniversary.
@burnbacon said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@venomous-sloth7 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon If you look around its in plain site the game is not being played as much recently. Twitch numbers,streamers not playing it, how dead it is on the seas. Its right there. Whether you wanna accept it is up to you but its very very visible. And nail in the coffin is an idiom that means it is something that will cause something to fail or be destroyed. When you bury the coffin then it is done.
I just got off my personal 6 hour play session. if I had to count the number of ships I seen, it be 40+
How many those avoided me or attacked is up in the air.Second, again dont go off by Twitch or Streamers. Not every player uses it or cares. The best know players are the ones who dont need viewers or better yet, the ones who dont need to show off :p
Seems you are the one who just wants people to accept it. Heck I always like a good day when NO ship comes across me, I get stuff done better. (unlike a few small hands who seem to be unable to even earn gold)
Again, its not the nail in the coffin. You having to "explain" it doesnt change the actual fact of what is actually going on. If you take the time to research and look around, As they say: Every cloud has a silver lining
You are the biggest troll on here.
By every metric presented to you, you will still just casually troll. I dunno why you're still here other than to troll.
Steam charts (gamers actually playing) the trend is going down.
Twitch hours (broadcasts and hours watched) are going down. Both that means an actual player playing the game (the streamer) and potential hype/content for someone to want to go play the game has meaning.
@lord-spark-0 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@venomous-sloth7 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon If you look around its in plain site the game is not being played as much recently. Twitch numbers,streamers not playing it, how dead it is on the seas. Its right there. Whether you wanna accept it is up to you but its very very visible. And nail in the coffin is an idiom that means it is something that will cause something to fail or be destroyed. When you bury the coffin then it is done.
I just got off my personal 6 hour play session. if I had to count the number of ships I seen, it be 40+
How many those avoided me or attacked is up in the air.Second, again dont go off by Twitch or Streamers. Not every player uses it or cares. The best know players are the ones who dont need viewers or better yet, the ones who dont need to show off :p
Seems you are the one who just wants people to accept it. Heck I always like a good day when NO ship comes across me, I get stuff done better. (unlike a few small hands who seem to be unable to even earn gold)
Again, its not the nail in the coffin. You having to "explain" it doesnt change the actual fact of what is actually going on. If you take the time to research and look around, As they say: Every cloud has a silver lining
You are the biggest troll on here.
By every metric presented to you, you will still just casually troll. I dunno why you're still here other than to troll.
Steam charts (gamers actually player) the trend is going down.
Twitch hours (broadcasts and hours watched) are going down. Both that means an actual player playing the game (the streamer) and potential hype/content for someone to want to go play the game has meaning.
uhhhhhh you do know that the majority of players are on xbox, right? steam charts doesnt mean everything. furthermore, SoT content creation is not mainstream. ppl play the game, but not many make content for it. idk why lol. also, please dont call ppl trolls, its not nice : )
@venomous-sloth7
aahhh another "the game is dead/dying" sorta post...we have been getting these since the release of the game, which by now is over 5 years ago...
in the meantime, we have gotten 5 years of free content updates, a massive collab with Disney (POTC) (which is HIGHLY protective of their IP's) and now they have done it again with Monkey island, which is also owned by Disney.
A game like Sea of Thieves will never see stable numbers, especially since they went to the Seasonal modal, every new season we will see an increase and a steady decline over the following months.
Also people seem to have real trouble using numbers like Steam charts, because of multiple reasons:
- 9/10 times they look at individual numbers for games, which removes a HUGE amount of context
- They see red numbers and deduce that a game must be dying
- Statistics are hard, just looking at a chart doesnt show a whole picture, mostly not even 1/2 of a picture
- they look at PEAK players over a certain time period (again losing context)
at its core, just for steam, the game is still in the top 100 most played games out of about 50.000 games on that platform that is the top 0.2% of games on that platform.
also if we look at the leaderboards, at least 160.000 players have played in june alone as a gold hoarder emmisary, so that is not counting non emmisaries or players that only play as reapers for instance.
Anyway
People have this incredibly warped perspective that if there is no 24/7 constant flow of new content, 10m active players, and support from streamers, all at the same time, then a game must be dying.
Even if all 3 are present (cough cough wow for all 20 years of it's existence cough cough) people will still be talking that the game is dying.
I really wonder where it came from, or who decided that twitch activity is indicative of anything.@riptide3683 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@lord-spark-0 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@venomous-sloth7 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon If you look around its in plain site the game is not being played as much recently. Twitch numbers,streamers not playing it, how dead it is on the seas. Its right there. Whether you wanna accept it is up to you but its very very visible. And nail in the coffin is an idiom that means it is something that will cause something to fail or be destroyed. When you bury the coffin then it is done.
I just got off my personal 6 hour play session. if I had to count the number of ships I seen, it be 40+
How many those avoided me or attacked is up in the air.Second, again dont go off by Twitch or Streamers. Not every player uses it or cares. The best know players are the ones who dont need viewers or better yet, the ones who dont need to show off :p
Seems you are the one who just wants people to accept it. Heck I always like a good day when NO ship comes across me, I get stuff done better. (unlike a few small hands who seem to be unable to even earn gold)
Again, its not the nail in the coffin. You having to "explain" it doesnt change the actual fact of what is actually going on. If you take the time to research and look around, As they say: Every cloud has a silver lining
You are the biggest troll on here.
By every metric presented to you, you will still just casually troll. I dunno why you're still here other than to troll.
Steam charts (gamers actually player) the trend is going down.
Twitch hours (broadcasts and hours watched) are going down. Both that means an actual player playing the game (the streamer) and potential hype/content for someone to want to go play the game has meaning.
uhhhhhh you do know that the majority of players are on xbox, right?
Two months ago Rare revealed that Xbox accounts for 54% while PC is 46%. It's definitely a majority, but I wouldn't say a massive one.
@venomous-sloth7 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon If you look around its in plain site the game is not being played as much recently. Twitch numbers,streamers not playing it, how dead it is on the seas. Its right there. Whether you wanna accept it is up to you but its very very visible. And nail in the coffin is an idiom that means it is something that will cause something to fail or be destroyed. When you bury the coffin then it is done.
"How dead it is on the seas" That means nothing other than you just arnt by other players, if you are in game, then there is at least 2 other ships in the server. Sea of thieves is still to this day one of the top 50 most played games on xbox, which says its far from dead, this is doom saying without any basis, and ignores the fact that current top 50 most played on xbox is no small deal.
@lord-spark-0 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@venomous-sloth7 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon If you look around its in plain site the game is not being played as much recently. Twitch numbers,streamers not playing it, how dead it is on the seas. Its right there. Whether you wanna accept it is up to you but its very very visible. And nail in the coffin is an idiom that means it is something that will cause something to fail or be destroyed. When you bury the coffin then it is done.
I just got off my personal 6 hour play session. if I had to count the number of ships I seen, it be 40+
How many those avoided me or attacked is up in the air.Second, again dont go off by Twitch or Streamers. Not every player uses it or cares. The best know players are the ones who dont need viewers or better yet, the ones who dont need to show off :p
Seems you are the one who just wants people to accept it. Heck I always like a good day when NO ship comes across me, I get stuff done better. (unlike a few small hands who seem to be unable to even earn gold)
Again, its not the nail in the coffin. You having to "explain" it doesnt change the actual fact of what is actually going on. If you take the time to research and look around, As they say: Every cloud has a silver lining
You are the biggest troll on here.
By every metric presented to you, you will still just casually troll. I dunno why you're still here other than to troll.
Steam charts (gamers actually player) the trend is going down.
Twitch hours (broadcasts and hours watched) are going down. Both that means an actual player playing the game (the streamer) and potential hype/content for someone to want to go play the game has meaning.
Here is how to explain this, the steam charts are going down VERY slowly, and steam is not anything to go by since the vast majority of people dont play sot on steam. As for twitch hours going down, of course they are, the last season was a qol season, play and watch hours go down during seasons with less playable content, its a natural process for any live service game.
@goldsmen said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@lord-spark-0 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@venomous-sloth7 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon If you look around its in plain site the game is not being played as much recently. Twitch numbers,streamers not playing it, how dead it is on the seas. Its right there. Whether you wanna accept it is up to you but its very very visible. And nail in the coffin is an idiom that means it is something that will cause something to fail or be destroyed. When you bury the coffin then it is done.
I just got off my personal 6 hour play session. if I had to count the number of ships I seen, it be 40+
How many those avoided me or attacked is up in the air.Second, again dont go off by Twitch or Streamers. Not every player uses it or cares. The best know players are the ones who dont need viewers or better yet, the ones who dont need to show off :p
Seems you are the one who just wants people to accept it. Heck I always like a good day when NO ship comes across me, I get stuff done better. (unlike a few small hands who seem to be unable to even earn gold)
Again, its not the nail in the coffin. You having to "explain" it doesnt change the actual fact of what is actually going on. If you take the time to research and look around, As they say: Every cloud has a silver lining
You are the biggest troll on here.
By every metric presented to you, you will still just casually troll. I dunno why you're still here other than to troll.
Steam charts (gamers actually player) the trend is going down.
Twitch hours (broadcasts and hours watched) are going down. Both that means an actual player playing the game (the streamer) and potential hype/content for someone to want to go play the game has meaning.
Here is how to explain this, the steam charts are going down VERY slowly, and steam is not anything to go by since the vast majority of people dont play sot on steam. As for twitch hours going down, of course they are, the last season was a qol season, play and watch hours go down during seasons with less playable content, its a natural process for any live service game.
Steam is absolutely something to go by. Why? Because its offering a metric.
Everything you and others on here are trying to dismiss is just nonsense at this point. You really don't have a clue what you're talking about. At least with Steam Charts, you can clearly gauge player activity and engagement..But anyways...
@lord-spark-0 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@goldsmen said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@lord-spark-0 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@venomous-sloth7 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon If you look around its in plain site the game is not being played as much recently. Twitch numbers,streamers not playing it, how dead it is on the seas. Its right there. Whether you wanna accept it is up to you but its very very visible. And nail in the coffin is an idiom that means it is something that will cause something to fail or be destroyed. When you bury the coffin then it is done.
I just got off my personal 6 hour play session. if I had to count the number of ships I seen, it be 40+
How many those avoided me or attacked is up in the air.Second, again dont go off by Twitch or Streamers. Not every player uses it or cares. The best know players are the ones who dont need viewers or better yet, the ones who dont need to show off :p
Seems you are the one who just wants people to accept it. Heck I always like a good day when NO ship comes across me, I get stuff done better. (unlike a few small hands who seem to be unable to even earn gold)
Again, its not the nail in the coffin. You having to "explain" it doesnt change the actual fact of what is actually going on. If you take the time to research and look around, As they say: Every cloud has a silver lining
You are the biggest troll on here.
By every metric presented to you, you will still just casually troll. I dunno why you're still here other than to troll.
Steam charts (gamers actually player) the trend is going down.
Twitch hours (broadcasts and hours watched) are going down. Both that means an actual player playing the game (the streamer) and potential hype/content for someone to want to go play the game has meaning.
Here is how to explain this, the steam charts are going down VERY slowly, and steam is not anything to go by since the vast majority of people dont play sot on steam. As for twitch hours going down, of course they are, the last season was a qol season, play and watch hours go down during seasons with less playable content, its a natural process for any live service game.
Steam is absolutely something to go by. Why? Because its offering a metric.
Everything you and others on here are trying to dismiss is just nonsense at this point. You really don't have a clue what you're talking about. At least with Steam Charts, you can clearly gauge player activity and engagement..But anyways...
Steam is NOT something to go by because it is only a miniscule fraction of the playerbase. Like i said, top 50 most played xbox games, but since you refuse to accept that steam charts are not a reliable source, allow me to provide ANOTHER CHART that entirely discredits the steam charts by showing that there are MORE players now than in 2020, showing that the average play count has gone up. The massive spike in the middle coincides with the launch of the first season, through to a while after a pirates life launched, for context if you are wondering.
@goldsmen said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@lord-spark-0 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@goldsmen said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@lord-spark-0 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@venomous-sloth7 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon If you look around its in plain site the game is not being played as much recently. Twitch numbers,streamers not playing it, how dead it is on the seas. Its right there. Whether you wanna accept it is up to you but its very very visible. And nail in the coffin is an idiom that means it is something that will cause something to fail or be destroyed. When you bury the coffin then it is done.
I just got off my personal 6 hour play session. if I had to count the number of ships I seen, it be 40+
How many those avoided me or attacked is up in the air.Second, again dont go off by Twitch or Streamers. Not every player uses it or cares. The best know players are the ones who dont need viewers or better yet, the ones who dont need to show off :p
Seems you are the one who just wants people to accept it. Heck I always like a good day when NO ship comes across me, I get stuff done better. (unlike a few small hands who seem to be unable to even earn gold)
Again, its not the nail in the coffin. You having to "explain" it doesnt change the actual fact of what is actually going on. If you take the time to research and look around, As they say: Every cloud has a silver lining
You are the biggest troll on here.
By every metric presented to you, you will still just casually troll. I dunno why you're still here other than to troll.
Steam charts (gamers actually player) the trend is going down.
Twitch hours (broadcasts and hours watched) are going down. Both that means an actual player playing the game (the streamer) and potential hype/content for someone to want to go play the game has meaning.
Here is how to explain this, the steam charts are going down VERY slowly, and steam is not anything to go by since the vast majority of people dont play sot on steam. As for twitch hours going down, of course they are, the last season was a qol season, play and watch hours go down during seasons with less playable content, its a natural process for any live service game.
Steam is absolutely something to go by. Why? Because its offering a metric.
Everything you and others on here are trying to dismiss is just nonsense at this point. You really don't have a clue what you're talking about. At least with Steam Charts, you can clearly gauge player activity and engagement..But anyways...
Steam is NOT something to go by because it is only a miniscule fraction of the playerbase. Like i said, top 50 most played xbox games, but since you refuse to accept that steam charts are not a reliable source, allow me to provide ANOTHER CHART that entirely discredits the steam charts by showing that there are MORE players now than in 2020, showing that the average play count has gone up. The massive spike in the middle coincides with the launch of the first season, through to a while after a pirates life launched, for context if you are wondering.
"Since no Game Company is willing to share their live logged user’s data. Activeplayer.io went ahead and produced an estimated data. "
BAHAH. This is your source? They even use Steam charts as one of their avenues for collecting data. The Xbox data is only held by Microsoft and you'll never know that data without being an employee (which they are not).
And it was awhile ago that Rare announced 50% of the players play Xbox and 50% are on PC.
But again, you're discrediting the live version of people in SoT recorded by Valve. And it is a good metric and the data is pointing to the playerbase is going down.
Get your head out of the clouds mate. Have less grog when you come to the forums, you might make more sense here...
@venomous-sloth7 To me, it does not sound very logical that people will leave the game permanently due to a lack of new content. I certainly agree that players will play less after they do the new content for a bit, but it would be foolish on their part to entirely forsake the game. When SOT does add content, such as "A Pirate's Life," lots of people tend to play it. It seems more likely that players will simply decide to play more once the new content comes, and then play less in the time between the release of new content. I myself fall into this group (the main reason I am on these forums is the Hoarder's Hunt).
@lord-spark-0 Ur as bad as him for discrediting his chart after he gave a alternative to yours but ill sit back and eat my popcorn and watch this pointless argument unfold
Charts are data. Wether its steam or a alternative they both are valid
@lord-spark-0 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@goldsmen said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@lord-spark-0 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@goldsmen said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@lord-spark-0 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@venomous-sloth7 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@burnbacon If you look around its in plain site the game is not being played as much recently. Twitch numbers,streamers not playing it, how dead it is on the seas. Its right there. Whether you wanna accept it is up to you but its very very visible. And nail in the coffin is an idiom that means it is something that will cause something to fail or be destroyed. When you bury the coffin then it is done.
I just got off my personal 6 hour play session. if I had to count the number of ships I seen, it be 40+
How many those avoided me or attacked is up in the air.Second, again dont go off by Twitch or Streamers. Not every player uses it or cares. The best know players are the ones who dont need viewers or better yet, the ones who dont need to show off :p
Seems you are the one who just wants people to accept it. Heck I always like a good day when NO ship comes across me, I get stuff done better. (unlike a few small hands who seem to be unable to even earn gold)
Again, its not the nail in the coffin. You having to "explain" it doesnt change the actual fact of what is actually going on. If you take the time to research and look around, As they say: Every cloud has a silver lining
You are the biggest troll on here.
By every metric presented to you, you will still just casually troll. I dunno why you're still here other than to troll.
Steam charts (gamers actually player) the trend is going down.
Twitch hours (broadcasts and hours watched) are going down. Both that means an actual player playing the game (the streamer) and potential hype/content for someone to want to go play the game has meaning.
Here is how to explain this, the steam charts are going down VERY slowly, and steam is not anything to go by since the vast majority of people dont play sot on steam. As for twitch hours going down, of course they are, the last season was a qol season, play and watch hours go down during seasons with less playable content, its a natural process for any live service game.
Steam is absolutely something to go by. Why? Because its offering a metric.
Everything you and others on here are trying to dismiss is just nonsense at this point. You really don't have a clue what you're talking about. At least with Steam Charts, you can clearly gauge player activity and engagement..But anyways...
Steam is NOT something to go by because it is only a miniscule fraction of the playerbase. Like i said, top 50 most played xbox games, but since you refuse to accept that steam charts are not a reliable source, allow me to provide ANOTHER CHART that entirely discredits the steam charts by showing that there are MORE players now than in 2020, showing that the average play count has gone up. The massive spike in the middle coincides with the launch of the first season, through to a while after a pirates life launched, for context if you are wondering.
"Since no Game Company is willing to share their live logged user’s data. Activeplayer.io went ahead and produced an estimated data. "
BAHAH. This is your source? They even use Steam charts as one of their avenues for collecting data. The Xbox data is only held by Microsoft and you'll never know that data without being an employee (which they are not).
And it was awhile ago that Rare announced 50% of the players play Xbox and 50% are on PC.
But again, you're discrediting the live version of people in SoT recorded by Valve. And it is a good metric and the data is pointing to the playerbase is going down.
Get your head out of the clouds mate. Have less grog when you come to the forums, you might make more sense here...
If you wish to deny it then thats up to you, but that is a source of information that pairs well with the numbers we have. And yes! a lot of people do play sea of thieves on pc, but most still dont use steam to play it.
You are right that i discredit steams numbers, because the vast majority of people still do not play it on steam, since it only shows a minority of the players, it is unreliable, thats how gathering statistics work. Consider again, sea of thieves is in the top 50 most played games on xbox, that includes people playing on pc using xbox app.
And finally, i do not appreciate you implying im drunk, please be at least respectful here.
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And it was awhile ago that Rare announced 50% of the players play Xbox and 50% are on PC.
PC isn't just Steam tho. It's Steam AND Microsoft store / Game pass (which aren't reflected on steamchart).
When you look at the steamchart from the start, numbers are really ok. Sure the game doesn't grow steadily, but it never did. It had 6 thousand average players in october 2020, down 4 months in a row. The game didn't die then. It was a bit less than 8 thousands average in november 2021, down 5 months in a row. The game didn't die either. Again a bit less that 8 thousands average in october 2022, down 4 months in a row, guess what ? Game kept on living.
Even if we go with the peak (which is unreliable) it has been lower than that 4 times in the past. And the game still going.
Often, when we don't like the direction a game is going, we're looking for proof that it isn't the right path. But sometimes, it's not the game who leave us, it's the other way around.
@burnbacon I know about 20/25 people stopped playing in the last 2 months.
Stop pretending people aren’t getting sick of the game.
@pabz-2-dope It's likely that the people in your social circle are somewhat similar to you. It's an echo chamber.
If you only play / talk to hardcore players, you could think that they are representative of the overall playerbase. they're not. They are a tiny minority (I somewhat include myself in that minority).
People will get sick of any game, given they play enough of it. That's the way it is for most players.@ajm123 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@lord-spark-0 Ur as bad as him for discrediting his chart after he gave a alternative to yours but ill sit back and eat my popcorn and watch this pointless argument unfold
Charts are data. Wether its steam or a alternative they both are valid
I mean one of those charts is from Valve and the other is from unnamed "various online sources" and accounts for those playing on "PS3, PS4, PS5, Xbox, Wii, Nintendo Switch, Windows, Mac, Android, and iOS." Data being in a chart means nothing if the data is innacurate.
It's strange for me to see the two perspectives and actively have a side to choose...
I don't like the overly quiet state of the game, and as much as I do like to see new Tall Tales get released, I am not too much of a fan of the way it's being distributed.
I've joined this game at one of it's most perfect times to join, 8 days from now it will have been 3 years since that moment. Over that time I've gained and lost so many friends, most of the commendations and activities new players are trying to do I have either already done, or fully ignored due to lack of enjoyment. Season 8 destroyed my mental state (especially while trying to form crews), forcing me to take a month break and re-evaluate how much I like this game with the few people that I either actually enjoyed playing with, or even wanted to play with me.
You tell me. How am I supposed to feel when upcoming content comparable to "A Pirate's Life" is straight up less than that, and being drip fed over a 3 month period? For a game that consistently still has several situations which include but are not limited to: severe content drought, increasing cases of cheaters, poor server performance making combat a joke, bugs that continue to ruin experiences of a game that can no longer support a portion of the player base that joined not only when the game launched, but joined when the game was a hot spot to play during what we hope will be the only global pandemic that kept us inside for hours with nothing better to do.
I'm not going to rely on statistics for factual evidence, I just have to look in the few circles of the community I'm able to view. On Twitter it's a mixed response, because people are loving the reveal, and some people are realizing that this attempt to catch lightning in a bottle twice is ignoring several issues that have been in discussion for a while.
From the few friends I have that also visit the Official Sea of Thieves Discord, the response turned overwhelmingly negative following the announcement due to users realizing that no gameplay-ruining bugs will be fixed, barely any new or worthwhile sandbox content is being added, and I don't even think I want to go into the cheating problem again.
Some circles are happy Monkey Island content is coming to Sea of Thieves, others are ticked it's being dripfed, some are losing interest in the game overall, and the viewership for Sea of Thieves on Twitch dipped massively because most streamers that held large audiences either weren't playing the game, or got dreadfully bored of what they were playing that they ended stream.
After getting permanently booted from the Official Discord I tried to reduce my doom-speaking because I sided with and spoke for bitter veterans. At this point, I am the bitter veteran and I want to remain optimistic of the developers and their future plans, but I shouldn't look at their game and say "man, this game is actually not fun to play now" and have a reasonable crowd of people agree with me. This does not feel okay.
What I'm going to hope for is that in the coming weeks more details about this series of tall tales get revealed and add some interest back into the Seas for all types of players (at least, the non-heinous ones that don't cheat or use slurs). I would like to see this game prosper, because I can't say I'm having that much fun anymore, and it will be difficult to make me see otherwise while I still know the current state of the game.
@mferr11 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@ajm123 said in Is this the nail in the coffin?:
@lord-spark-0 Ur as bad as him for discrediting his chart after he gave a alternative to yours but ill sit back and eat my popcorn and watch this pointless argument unfold
Charts are data. Wether its steam or a alternative they both are valid
I mean one of those charts is from Valve and the other is from unnamed "various online sources" and accounts for those playing on "PS3, PS4, PS5, Xbox, Wii, Nintendo Switch, Windows, Mac, Android, and iOS." Data being in a chart means nothing if the data is innacurate.
All of those are listed specifically because its basically a filler message used on all games to specify that it takes in all stats from every platform, and provides info on various games, its easier to use the filler message than creating a custom message for games that are on select platforms.
I only provided it since steam has such a miniscule number of the games player count that its not reliable, especially since people could have gotten the game again on xbox or xbox app and not touched it on steam for any number of reasons. The fact that the game reached an all time high player count of 30million while it was on the decline on steam also makes you question how representative of the whole that the steam charts really are.
Personally I'm looking forward to how Rare plans on executing the new tall tale.
There's potential for then to be more repeatable, or at the very least more rewarding than the potc tall tales, though whether or not they will be remains to be seen.
I'm glad Rare is apparently taking a step back from doubling down on cheater-magnet PVP content if nothing else.
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