Some day it would be nice to be able to gift ancient coins or emporium goodies to others. This idea comes to me from the fact that i have gotten more ancient skeles than i can count, and half of the coins i got i spend on some emotes or something im not sure i will like just cause i have nothing better to use them on.
I know people with double the hours of me who have hardly gotten any ancient skeles, and if i could i would absolutely share some ancient coins i get with them.
@goldsmen Probably not gonna happen, because then you will get that some players would make multiple alt accounts, not to actually play with that as own accounts, but just to farm the ancient gold from the season pass and transfer those to their main account.
I get the desire, but i think Rare would not do it because of that exploit and it will lose them money (and probably can get them into legal trouble with Microsoft for losing them money)
@super87ghost said in Gifting Ancient Goodies!:
@goldsmen Probably not gonna happen, because then you will get that some players would make multiple alt accounts, not to actually play with that as own accounts, but just to farm the ancient gold from the season pass and transfer those to their main account.
I get the desire, but i think Rare would not do it because of that exploit and it will lose them money (and probably can get them into legal trouble with Microsoft for losing them money)
Im sure some people would use it for that, but i dont think it would be seen as a "Oh no! we are just losing money!" situation, and would probably be bannable if you are found doing so.
@goldsmen
I've played enough MMO's to know that when you introduce something like this, gold farmers will employ an army of bots/low paid people to utilize the feature. It's not a problem of "some people" it does end up being an issue of "Some people abuse it to a massive degree"
@pithyrumble said in Gifting Ancient Goodies!:
Makes her usual doomsday warning about scammers and naive players...
I dont see how scamming would work for something that would be entirely a in game gifting system and not a trade system.
It's the naiveté.
Have you ever worked a call center involving money?
People are sneaky and stupid.
When it happens it looks bad on the company running the service. Buyer beware ive had to defend this for a comapny that really didn't care does not assuage angry marks. It's not even trading. Someone who doesn't completely understand the game, currency or game mechanics can be tricked by shady players.
Again. Doomsday warnings.
@foambreaker said in Gifting Ancient Goodies!:
The reason it is "ok" for the developers to allow all this wealth to accumulate is because the game as no economy, as soon as they allow a persistent trade of any kind that goes out the window along with income from the store.
I assume that is the same or similar reason not being able to trade regular gold as well ? At least I don't think you can trade regular gold that is ?
@pabz-2-dope said in Gifting Ancient Goodies!:
Rare won’t give away free money.. lol.
Rare already is giving away free money, but this isnt a matter of rare giving away money, its simply asking to let players gift coins that they already have to their name.
@goldsmen said in Gifting Ancient Goodies!:
@pithyrumble said in Gifting Ancient Goodies!:
Makes her usual doomsday warning about scammers and naive players...
I dont see how scamming would work for something that would be entirely a in game gifting system and not a trade system.
there are a few ways.
How do people get harmed by this? A number of ways.
A player falls for a phishing scam, accidentally gives away access to their account, and suddenly finds all of their coins have been "gifted" to a 3rd party who is now selling it for money. Their character also, now becomes a bot farming for coins at forts.
A player pays for coins, and they are never delivered.
A player pays for coins, but his credit card information is stolen.
Plus, now imagine open crews now having a crewmember join, say in chat "Buy Coins at Seaofthievestreasures . com" Then logging out....
Just watched a video where a guy reported a hacker who was teleporting on and off their ship to drop kegs on them. They managed to get him to talk, sounded like a british guy. He basically said he did it for money. He hopped on, teleported his way through earning rep and curses, then sold the account for money (according to him).
These are the sorts of things that happen in MMOs. It would be foolish to think that they wouldn't be a problem here.
@tybald said in Gifting Ancient Goodies!:
@goldsmen said in Gifting Ancient Goodies!:
@pithyrumble said in Gifting Ancient Goodies!:
Makes her usual doomsday warning about scammers and naive players...
I dont see how scamming would work for something that would be entirely a in game gifting system and not a trade system.
there are a few ways.
- The general idea of gold selling would be to go to a 3rd party site. They give their username, and pay for how much gold they want. The site then has that money delivered to the person in game through the gifting or mail system.
How do people get harmed by this? A number of ways.
A player falls for a phishing scam, accidentally gives away access to their account, and suddenly finds all of their coins have been "gifted" to a 3rd party who is now selling it for money. Their character also, now becomes a bot farming for coins at forts.
A player pays for coins, and they are never delivered.
A player pays for coins, but his credit card information is stolen.
Plus, now imagine open crews now having a crewmember join, say in chat "Buy Coins at Seaofthievestreasures . com" Then logging out....
Just watched a video where a guy reported a hacker who was teleporting on and off their ship to drop kegs on them. They managed to get him to talk, sounded like a british guy. He basically said he did it for money. He hopped on, teleported his way through earning rep and curses, then sold the account for money (according to him).
These are the sorts of things that happen in MMOs. It would be foolish to think that they wouldn't be a problem here.
This is not about gold in any measure, it would be a system dedicated to ancient coins which have a max value to them. But the big thing is, if rare puts it in the games license agreement that you arnt allowed to sell ancient coins for real value, anyone who does so could get in some serious issue since ancient coins have real world value that could be considered to be stolen from rare.
Im sure some people would try to scam for a quick buck, but you would have to be stupid to try something like that considering microsoft is in the backworks. If some one thinks a quick buck is worth a potential law suit from rare or even microsoft, then they probably need to rethink their entire life.
