Time to do something against aimbot + temporary solution

This sounds like an anti double gun post disguised as a cheat solution. Double gun does not enable people to instantly kill people. Infact you can instantly kill people even if you have a sword currently, due to 1 weapon called a blunderbuss! That is the root of instant kills in this game, not the ability to pair a sniper or pistol with it.

@llanistar said in Time to do something against aimbot + temporary solution:

@goldsmen The blunderbuss requires close combat. The aimbot cheaters snipe you in one instant from the other side of a ship or from their ship at a distance.

Also, quit trying to read my intentions (badly), they are clear. I'm not a soviet spy in disguise either, just one player disgusted by cheaters.

If the issue isnt being 1 shot by a blunder at close range, then having a long ranged weapon is not a 1 shot either. Even the sniper cant 1 shot you from full.

If you genuinely think that removing double gun would limit cheaters, then comes the hard pill to swallow, cheaters will still cheat and be seriously advantaged over any players. Restrict people to only 1 gun and sword to limit cheaters and you will limit regular players just as much, leaving cheaters with an advantage regardless.

This would fix little to nothing with cheaters, and would anger a lot of people in the community in the process.

@llanistar said in Time to do something against aimbot + temporary solution:

@goldsmen The thing is : Two shots from two guns in one second is perfect for cheaters with aimbot because it will hit 100% of the time and you can't survive this.

That's what I'm saying they should prevent. Having aimbot doesn't carry you as much with a sword. And the legit player can react.

I dont think you realize that cheats people have used in this game far extend past just aim bot, which might i add with the way projectiles work, will not land 100% of the time.

I would rather they address the issues directly rather than use a bandaid fix that will anger a lot of people and barely deal with 1 issue.

One fix that they should at least test or look at.

Every time you switch to a gun weapon. You always have to load it and you can not skip.
Or
If you shoot one gun and switch to another, the second weapon has to be loaded.

Yeah, this is most CERTAINLY not a anti - doublegun post disguised as hacking post 🙄

Double gun is a valid form of combat. You cannot be one shot from one gun, it’s not possible. Sounds like you’ve been outplayed in combat and not likely from cheating.

@rarehatessolos said in Time to do something against aimbot + temporary solution:

@triheadedmonkey

All the mods ever do is call out the original poster and lock threads.

They are the reason why this mentality of gatekeeping SoT exists so strongly here on the forum.

They are the King Gatekeepers. Unable to actually think for themselves. Rare is perfect and so is Sea of Thieves.

Cheaters… perfection

No sbmm for adventure mode… perfection

No aim assist for controllers… perfection

No adventure mode for solo players… perfection

Gatekeepers are the reason SoT will go down as the most successful unsuccessful exclusive in history.

All because gatekeepers actively work to keep SoT as unbalanced as possible to their benefit.

I laugh at them. Just bleeding players. Killing the game they love.

It’s actually hilarious.

What are you on about? There was no gate keeping. The op made a claim that something would solve an issue, but i see no way that it would solve the issue or even be a bandaid fix that would help in any measure. I dont use double gun, but i at least know removing it entirely as a "fix" would help no one.

The mods are just here to make sure that fights dont break out and maintain the rules, and holding some one to the rules is not a form of gate keeping. The mods have removed posts of mine before for, and while i may not know entirely why, they must have a good reason, so i have no issue with it.

@rarehatessolos said in Time to do something against aimbot + temporary solution:

@goldsmen

Are you kidding me?

Every single post by someone new or who visits infrequently is bombarded with 6+ permanent forum residents telling them why their idea is bad and can not possibly work. That’s GATEKEEPING. It happens literally every time does not matter the subject of the post.

People using an aimbot can most definitely be more of a nuisance if they are allowed to equip two ranged guns at the same time.

OP makes a good argument for restricting everyone to sword + gun because it would be a natural counter to aimbot usage.

It would also just be more balanced in general for everyone.

I standby what I say. I have lurked on this forum for years and participate when I see a topic that speaks to me. I know what I’m saying is true.

The mods are so biased towards maintaining the status quo it’s not even funny. They are the furthest thing from being impartial as possible.

The mods can’t even admit the DA sails provide a unique visual advantage over other sails. I straight up asked Pace22 his opinion on the subject. Clear and definite, yes they provide an advantage from him.

It’s absolutely shocking how far the mods will go to maintain the status quo.

Just yesterday a mod was telling me that more people who buy an Xbox use it with a mouse and keyboard than a controller.

They literally can’t be more incorrect. I don’t where they get these mods but they have no common sense whatsoever. They go out of their way to protect each other and the long term forum residents. They are largely responsible for the near constant gatekeeping on this forum.

His idea doesnt counter aimbot, if people use aim bot, they will still use it regardless if they were restricted to 1 gun or not. If you restrict aim bots to 1 gun along with everyone else, they will still be just as advantaged against others as they always were.

Gate keeping isnt saying "i disagree/this physically would not work", gate keeping is "you cant play at all if you play this way". An opinion is not gate keeping, gate keeping is a demand to restrict some one. No one on the forum is allowed to tell people they cant play this game or use the forum for a difference of opinion or any other reason.

@rarehatessolos said in Time to do something against aimbot + temporary solution:

@goldsmen

Are you kidding me?

Have you ever experienced a cheater either yourself or watching it happen on Twitch?

They will constantly snipe/pistol from their ship and quite frequently they will hit their target and do damage.

By restricting everyone to one gun, cheaters will have to wait until they reload after every shot as opposed to just quick swapping guns. The time difference between reloading a gun versus swapping to a different gun is the difference between having time to eat and heal versus not having the time to eat and heal before being killed.

Again I don’t think you have a single clue as to why OP suggested this change. It would literally function as a nerf to aimbotters.

And yet they will still be as advantaged over every sword and gun user just as much as they were advantaged over every double gun user. A bandaid fix that upsets a large number of players in the process is not the solution, a proper fix and anti cheat is.

@rarehatessolos said in Time to do something against aimbot + temporary solution:

@goldsmen

If Rare can’t stop cheaters than any solution that nerfs cheating is worth considering.

That’s like saying the Earth is warming but since we can’t stop it completely let’s do nothing about it.

Its not at all like saying to do nothing about it, its the opposite in fact. I am saying to directly address the problem, rather than do something with the most minimal affect that inconveniences many innocent people.

Dont punish the innocent for the actions of the guilty.

@RareHatesSolos
I never said it would do nothing, i said its a bandaid fix, and against cheaters, would provide minimal help. The simple fact is, every competitive game with any form of gun play has aim bots and cheaters, but you dont see those games applying bandaids that also hinder and annoy the normal player base, because that would be horrible for any game.

Any action that is a fix, especially a minimal fix, to a cheating issue but annoys a large portion of the player base is not a fix that devs should consider. If something to deal with a cheating issue affects a popular way people play, it will cause nothing but strife with the community.

You are wasting your time with this thread bro because you will always get jumped on by kids who double gun.
I have zero issue with people using 2 guns but the issue lies with the ability for these kind of players to bypass the reload animations.

@goldsmen said in Time to do something against aimbot + temporary solution:

This sounds like an anti double gun post disguised as a cheat solution. Double gun does not enable people to instantly kill people. Infact you can instantly kill people even if you have a sword currently, due to 1 weapon called a blunderbuss! That is the root of instant kills in this game, not the ability to pair a sniper or pistol with it.

No, the double gun bug still exist where you can shoot both the sniper and pistol within a half of second. It's just very hard to do and very rare to find people who can do it (or has something set-up to automatically do it). Also, cheaters do exist quite commonly overall outside of that exploit (teleporting gunpowder barrels and missing loot from forts has become more and more common lately in season 9 from what I've heard and seen overall).

@jusey1z said in Time to do something against aimbot + temporary solution:

@goldsmen said in Time to do something against aimbot + temporary solution:

This sounds like an anti double gun post disguised as a cheat solution. Double gun does not enable people to instantly kill people. Infact you can instantly kill people even if you have a sword currently, due to 1 weapon called a blunderbuss! That is the root of instant kills in this game, not the ability to pair a sniper or pistol with it.

No, the double gun bug still exist where you can shoot both the sniper and pistol within a half of second. It's just very hard to do and very rare to find people who can do it (or has something set-up to automatically do it). Also, cheaters do exist quite commonly overall outside of that exploit (teleporting gunpowder barrels and missing loot from forts has become more and more common lately in season 9 from what I've heard and seen overall).

I never said cheats dont exist outside of that, the post just feels like using cheats as an excuse to try and get rid of double gun than an actual anti cheat post since its saying to remove an entire playstyle, rather than address the cheat directly.