(Making it clear) Known Exploits have been excepted by Rare. The ones that have not!!!

@rambobrad a dit dans (Making it clear) Known Exploits have been excepted by Rare. The ones that have not!!! :

Is tapping shift then pressing right-click an exploit?

Your fingers doing it is not.
What happens as a result is.

In skyrim, can I just put a bucket on that seller's head for lolz ? Sure !
Does it break what the devs intended (me paying gold to purchase stuff in said seller's shop) because I can now just unrealistically steal everything because he doesn't see me ? Oh yeah !

Mario Kart 64 (playing with friends or else it's not fun) - Rainbow Road :

• Can I press R1 at the beginning and put my joystick to the left ? Why not ?
• Am I gonna ruin the entire race and maybe the whole championship if I land on that other part of the track down, effectively counting as if I just completed 2/3 of a lap ? Definitely

@n0soup4u a dit dans (Making it clear) Known Exploits have been excepted by Rare. The ones that have not!!! :

I dont think they even play their own game

They did just announce a feature that is already in game, (and with such a timing too : s7 : fish 1000 of each fish. s9 : Oh yeah we forgot : now you can select bait) so....

@dragonborn12940 said in (Making it clear) Known Exploits have been excepted by Rare. The ones that have not!!!:

For the record, animation canceling is 100% okay and is not bannable. If it was I would have already been banned a long time ago. Heck, even the Rare guys use double gunning on their streams so I would say they have intentionally not patched it.

I don't report players for using glitches to their advantage, glitches are the devs issues to deal with, they should be responsible for patching it up, I can't expect players to not use something that that they can take advantage of. It's like telling people "No trespassing" to a mechanic that already exists in game, people are bound to trespass regardless, especially if it gives them a huge advantage.

I will report players if I suspect them of cheating, things such as teleportation, or near 100% confirmed hits on enemy ships (Especially if they happen to be in the same place) at large distances.

Nearly five years later, and here we still are.

I can't recall which month it was (April, May, or June), of 2018 (shortly after launch) when a friend of mine on the seas started mucking around with double gunning, because of what they noticed other people had been doing in battle.

A lot of discussions, patch-notes, changes (some tested, some implemented)... and not much has really changed.

I think it's a problem. And I sometimes think it's more of a problem that the powers that be chose not to completely end this problem, than the fact that this exploit still remains to a certain degree.

I've always respected the commitment of not simply removing the ability to equip two guns, but, that sort of commitment to tools and not rules really has to be accompanied by some smart, well-made safe-proofs to prevent things like animation cancelation and the like. And that's something Rare has proven to be either incapable of, or unwilling to do - up to this point.

At this point, I've ceased imagining what difference it would make to the gaming experience. I'm not really sure. With all the other exploits, not to mention cheats, it's hard to imagine what this one difference would make - but I'd certainly love to see that day, nonetheless.

@everyone

Like to thank you all for adding to this discussion this is how we clearly identify the problems. Get down to finding a Solution that is best fit for the community.

There are some very well written points on both sides. Some comments keep things light and fun.
Everyone is welcomed to their opinions they should be heard. We must separate assumption from clear undeniable truth.

Where reaching 1000 views let’s try to get 100,000 views get more input and eyes on this thread. Honestly more people need to be informed to get the eyes of the devs.

So I’m asking share this with your communities get the word out.

Goonies.Never Say Die!!!

@n0soup4u just because a portion of players “can’t do” something in the game or “don’t have” a specific skill, doesn’t mean that Rare should punish those who have taken the time to hone that skill. I don’t think they should ever “force” a player to use a sword. It’s an open world sandbox game and it has been since conception. Just accept that people are better than you at Sea of Thieves and try to enjoy yourself anyway. Maybe try to improve at the things you’re not good at. Forcing people to play the way you want them to is not the answer and a really good way to kill off a significant portion of the community.

@amazingjables said in (Making it clear) Known Exploits have been excepted by Rare. The ones that have not!!!:

@n0soup4u just because a portion of players “can’t do” something in the game or “don’t have” a specific skill, doesn’t mean that Rare should punish those who have taken the time to hone that skill. I don’t think they should ever “force” a player to use a sword. It’s an open world sandbox game and it has been since conception. Just accept that people are better than you at Sea of Thieves and try to enjoy yourself anyway. Maybe try to improve at the things you’re not good at. Forcing people to play the way you want them to is not the answer and a really good way to kill off a significant portion of the community.

Yes they should.

It is about balance and a level playing field.

Exploits are not welcome in this game when they give advantage.

@amazingjables

@n0soup4u just because a portion of players “can’t do” something in the game or “don’t have” a specific skill, doesn’t mean that Rare should punish those who have taken the time to hone that skill. I don’t think they should ever “force” a player to use a sword. It’s an open world sandbox game and it has been since conception. Just accept that people are better than you at Sea of Thieves and try to enjoy yourself anyway. Maybe try to improve at the things you’re not good at. Forcing people to play the way you want them to is not the answer and a really good way to kill off a significant portion of the community.

This is yet again an assumption of multiple statements.

1. Any game has rules yes/no? Rules are guidelines in which to play, and how to play. Play by the rules or don't play by the rules. Rules are broken, in most cases many things can happen. Some cases a broken rule could later be allowed. Non the less the rule is upheld, and the rule violator addressed. I know a lot of people are visual learners. So, imagine if you would any game and alter the balance to just one side.

EX: US Football Jaguars, Cowboys, and Chiefs get an additional down so 5 instead of 4 well because why not they want play that way. Well, the rest of the NFL teams still only get 4 downs. If you don't let them play that way well their going to not play in the NFL.

Definition of Exploit and skill to make it clear so we can help those of you out with that Assumption an exploit is somehow skill.

Definition of Exploit:
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitch, or use elements of a game system in a manner not intended by the game's designers, in a way that gives a substantial unfair advantage to players using it.

Definition of skill:
Having or showing the knowledge, ability, or training to perform a certain activity or task well.

Skilled Exploit player would be a person who is knowledgeable, ability, or training to perform the use of a bug or glitch or use elements of a game system in a manner not intended by the game's designers, in a way that gives a substantial unfair advantage to players using it. In short, a cheater unless it has been publicly acknowledged by the developers of Sea of Thieves thus making it part of the game.

On 13 March 2023 there still has not been any such acknowledgment of any known exploit other than the Sword Lunge. In which I, say to you they swiftly made it known Sword Lunge was part of the game.

@red0demon0 said in (Making it clear) Known Exploits have been excepted by Rare. The ones that have not!!!:

@dragonborn12940 said in (Making it clear) Known Exploits have been excepted by Rare. The ones that have not!!!:

For the record, animation canceling is 100% okay and is not bannable. If it was I would have already been banned a long time ago. Heck, even the Rare guys use double gunning on their streams so I would say they have intentionally not patched it.

I don't report players for using glitches to their advantage, glitches are the devs issues to deal with, they should be responsible for patching it up, I can't expect players to not use something that that they can take advantage of. It's like telling people "No trespassing" to a mechanic that already exists in game, people are bound to trespass regardless, especially if it gives them a huge advantage.

I will report players if I suspect them of cheating, things such as teleportation, or near 100% confirmed hits on enemy ships (Especially if they happen to be in the same place) at large distances.

Yes you can.

It is called be a better person and be a better pirate.

Good day Pirates,

Hope everyone enjoyed amazing Community sail weekend. Well for the most part I, did only run into one speed hacker, and 20 plus exploit players over all it was a fun time with the crew.

@lt-robinson25

I must report that player reporting is frustrating knowing that the player is using an alt account. Will be back the next day. It does take time editing video, reporting information, we all would rather be sailing and enjoying the game. They do review within 24 hours and get back to you with result of your ticket. I have to think it's at least an indicator to the dev's how broken the game still is and the attention to do more. I say to you keep reporting even know it feels pointless at times and that this should not be your responsibility but that of the developers. I laugh sometimes because I feel like this is also 2 games in one. The other game is called report simulator. Keep your heads held high keep trying to do the right thing if it don't feel right or look right just report.