Kick or remove crew member as solo sloop

  • TNTienne
    Rogue

    So, I like to solo sloop and sometimes open a slot for someone random to join, in case of need. Most of the time it's not perfect but I met a lot of nice people adjusting on the go and being cooperative.

    NOW, what can you do when it happens to be one toxic idiot joining your ship and being obnoxious and destructive ?
    I was in the middle of a quest last night, forgot my crew slot was still open, when a random player arrived. He just sailed away with my ship, saying nothing. I was busy exploring shipwrecks and when I eventually mermaided back to him, finding he had destroyed the ship, released the rowboat and was throwing crates away. What the heck ? He started calling me names and wouldnt let me fix the ship or leave.
    I understand the voting system to kick a member, but when you need 2 on 2... and I didnt want to leave halfway my voyage.
    I wish I took his name to report him.

    Anyway, did you guys experience anything like this before ? Is there a way to kick a player as a captain ?
    Thanks for your insights

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  • Galactic Geek
    Seafarer
    Founder

    @tntienne Next time this happens, get the name, and hit record - then report.

    There is no excuse for a pirate to act like that towards his or her own crew.

    For now, that's all that can be done.

    Also, to my knowledge, captaining a ship will not fix this problem.

  • Metal Ravage
    Champion
    Insider
    Founder

    @tntienne That is a risk you take with the open crew, yet in no way can justify a harassing kind of behavior. Next time just report and leave the session.

  • TNTienne
    Rogue

    @galactic-geek thanks for the tip, will do next time :)

  • WolfManbush
    Champion

    There is no perfect system for this, there is only the least destructive system which is what exists

    Power of access to the server is too much power to give one over another in a situation where there is no accountability for the power, without accountability there is no justice, there is just power of one over another.

  • Schwammlgott
    Champion

    @tntienne sagte in Kick or remove crew member as solo sloop:

    I understand the voting system to kick a member, but when you need 2 on 2... and I didnt want to leave halfway my voyage.

    There is no option to kick someone, just to brig someone...

  • TimedSatyr79799
    Ship Mate

    If there was a kick option and if he joined you, instead of doing this, he would have kicked you and invited his friend.

  • BurnBacon
    Vanguard
    Insider

    I was in the middle of a quest last night, forgot my crew slot was still open, when a random player arrived.

    You at fault. Sorry but truth hurts

    Now a for not just a sloop but any ship with the power to vote or kick another out of a crew/ship/server.

    When it happens to you, that gonna be horrible experience. So think about it from both sides.

  • AlmtyChcknPoo
    Seafarer

    @burnbacon said in Kick or remove crew member as solo sloop:

    I was in the middle of a quest last night, forgot my crew slot was still open, when a random player arrived.

    You at fault. Sorry but truth hurts

    Now a for not just a sloop but any ship with the power to vote or kick another out of a crew/ship/server.

    When it happens to you, that gonna be horrible experience. So think about it from both sides.

    You literally like to go around placing blame on the OP for like everything don't ya? It helps to maybe give more constructive feedback like some of the others have done in here, but you literally blame OPs for everything for whatever reason.

  • cc99999
    Seafarer
    Insider

    I agree. I think having the ability to load a sloop with Open Crew is fine for variety, but having a third option where the person who opens the crew is the captain, would allow the main player to have some control over the situation. At least for a sloop, where you can't brig someone until they leave.

  • Schwammlgott
    Champion

    @cc99999 sagte in Kick or remove crew member as solo sloop:

    I agree. I think having the ability to load a sloop with Open Crew is fine for variety, but having a third option where the person who opens the crew is the captain, would allow the main player to have some control over the situation. At least for a sloop, where you can't brig someone until they leave.

    Maybe we get something like this with the captaincy update next season

  • Schwammlgott
    Champion

    @almtychcknpoo sagte in Kick or remove crew member as solo sloop:

    @burnbacon said in Kick or remove crew member as solo sloop:

    I was in the middle of a quest last night, forgot my crew slot was still open, when a random player arrived.

    You at fault. Sorry but truth hurts

    Now a for not just a sloop but any ship with the power to vote or kick another out of a crew/ship/server.

    When it happens to you, that gonna be horrible experience. So think about it from both sides.

    You literally like to go around placing blame on the OP for like everything don't ya? It helps to maybe give more constructive feedback like some of the others have done in here, but you literally blame OPs for everything for whatever reason.

    But...he's not wrong...OP said himself, he forgot to close crew again...that's why he asked for a kick feature...still there are many downsides to a kick option, that might make it not worthit...
    So...his fault, just learn from it, because atm there's nothing more he could do

  • Schwammlgott
    Champion

    @almtychcknpoo another question: are you the chicken sister of "The great mighty poo"? 😉

  • TimedSatyr79799
    Ship Mate

    If you are solo, have a lot of treasure, supplies, and someone joins you in open crew, and sees everything, instead of trolling, he would kick you out and you will lose all your hard earned stuff. Tell then to reverse this.

  • PapBra94
    Seafarer
    Insider

    Just like Golder Hoarder Voyage
    You'll get, what you get.

    If you're not happy, disable public session 🤷‍♂️
    Also, I strongly recommand to play with stranger only on Brig/Galle
    On sloop, stay alone or invite a friend

  • HiradC
    Lord
    Insider

    The problem is the capacity to abuse it, someone opens their crew, you help them do a Fort then as you're about to sell they boot you. There are sadly people out there like you discovered that enjoy trolling others. The risk seems higher with open crew so I'd recommend trying lfg instead as you can be clear about what is needed and vet them a bit in party before sending invite

  • Mrat13
    Marauder
    Insider

    I feel like situations like this could do with the ability to pickup the active quest. It would reset to the beginning, and you couldn't do it in the same server, but if it's important to you and you want to finish it, you have that option.

  • Lem0n Curry
    Vanguard
    Insider

    @mrat13 said in Kick or remove crew member as solo sloop:

    I feel like situations like this could do with the ability to pickup the active quest. It would reset to the beginning, and you couldn't do it in the same server, but if it's important to you and you want to finish it, you have that option.

    Wouldn't that be abused when doing gilded voyages ? Do most of it and sell all the chests, pick it up and do it again on another server ?

    Normal voyages are 200 or so gold at most, hardly the expense.

  • Magus104
    Captain
    Insider
    Founder

    Sadly while I do want a kick option for the brig and galleon That option wouldnt need a majority vote which cant happen on a 2 man ship...... However with captaincy coming I think captains vote should count twice on all things, voting on a new voyage, abandoning voyage etc. Having control over whos on your crew also makes sense from a captaincy perspective.

    I believe the reason they havent gone for a kick option is they think it would create a negative play experience for the person being kicked... But how is ruining the experience for an entire crew a better alternative? The brig was meant to be a way to deal with a bad actor but usually it just makes them sit afk in the brig making you short handed. And the brig on the sloop never had a function and in fact you could glitch out and be pushed into the brig and RIP no way out.

    But now with fire bombs and stuff people in the brig can harass. they can bucket water if youre trying to keep plants alive etc.

    Captaincy update would have been the perfect time to finally introduce a kick option but honestly they just dont care. They have a confirmation page when we go to set sail to make sure all our choices are what we want. Just vote to make it closed then it should convert it when player 2 leaves

    also you can look up "recent players" and you might recognize his name in that list. but i wouldnt report them if you werent 100% sure. at the same time though unless he was being vulgar and actually toxic.... it might not be warranted. Sadly this is a "play your way" game and he might just like to be a mutinous pirate. Is it against the rules to be a troll? Is he that much different than someone in an alliance betraying you or another ship coming and stealing your stuff? While it does stink and I do sympathize sadly this is just a thing that can happen. As much as it stinks to have to just abandon ship that seems to be what Rare prefers. Its easy enough to just make a new game and correct the mistake of having it open crew.

  • AlmtyChcknPoo
    Seafarer

    @schwammlgott said in Kick or remove crew member as solo sloop:

    @almtychcknpoo sagte in Kick or remove crew member as solo sloop:

    @burnbacon said in Kick or remove crew member as solo sloop:

    I was in the middle of a quest last night, forgot my crew slot was still open, when a random player arrived.

    You at fault. Sorry but truth hurts

    Now a for not just a sloop but any ship with the power to vote or kick another out of a crew/ship/server.

    When it happens to you, that gonna be horrible experience. So think about it from both sides.

    You literally like to go around placing blame on the OP for like everything don't ya? It helps to maybe give more constructive feedback like some of the others have done in here, but you literally blame OPs for everything for whatever reason.

    But...he's not wrong...OP said himself, he forgot to close crew again...that's why he asked for a kick feature...still there are many downsides to a kick option, that might make it not worthit...
    So...his fault, just learn from it, because atm there's nothing more he could do

    It's not the first time this gentleman has popped in blaming the OP for things. And while that may be the case, people should still act appropriately. OP merely wanted a new option for the game. You don't have to support it. You could offer constructive feedback like other people have. You don't have to sit there and point the finger at the OP. There are more tactful ways of handling situations like these.

  • cc99999
    Seafarer
    Insider

    @magus104

    Good points.

    I will give an example of something that happened to me. I was solo slooping an OG Athena's Quest. I saved the riddles for last and was at the last riddle before unlocking the map to get the Legendary Chest.

    I opened the crew options to allow someone to come to my game and get credit for the Athena loot and maybe, if I enjoyed their company, I'd continue to play with them.

    I ended up with someone who did three things: 1) Talk endlessly about his personal worldview and how much recreational drugs he consumed; 2) Didn't make a single effort to help me complete the voyage; and 3) Just as we were sailing to the final island (Crooked Masts) to get the chest, he informs me that he's going to take off for a while and head to the store. At this point he just tucked on my own ship. I asked him to log out so I could get someone else, and he said, "nah".

    The second I got the chest, I got run up on, killed, chest looted, and as I respawn before my ship hit the death bell, I could see this worthless player's pirate asleep next to the map in my sloop.

    A kick function may not have saved my voyage, but would have been totally called for.

  • UnfadingShimmy
    Lord
    Insider
    Founder

    Imagine joining an open crew and working on a long voyage just to be kicked to make room for the captains buddy and losing out on the gold.

    The current setup is not ideal but is probably the best it could be.

  • HedgeDog1741
    Rogue

    @tntienne I currently saw another post about there being a "captain" on ship and I tought it would be good to mix the two and have the person who has been on the ship the longest the captain. For example you're doing a voyage and a griefer joins then you can kick them since you've been on the ship the longer.

  • Ken Static
    Commander
    Insider

    All you can really do when on a sloop is record or get a screen shot and report them. Rare does listen and deal with these players accordingly.

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