Please stop Lazy Players from Server Hopping for Easy Loot.

There should not be any timer on "server-hopping".

Since Arenas (unnecessary) shutdown there have been players who sink the Reapers and leave, yes, but it's not their fault.

These people are generally sat on a mountain of gold (I know I am) and just sink everyone, sometimes they just leave the loot floating there. No one really cares bout the loot, they just want a good fight against someone. And if they sink everyone in the server, then what so they do...world events? The really easy and generally unrewarding thing they have probably done 10000000 times already?

I agree it can be annoying to have people leave mid-session. But if people want to go do PvP, maybe just dedicate your current session to PvP and return to PvX next time, or leave as well. If someone else doesn't want to do world events or voyages, then so be it. It's their decision. They are not permanently tied to the current server just because they joined.

It is not lazy to server hop. PVE just is not fun after a while so I only do it for commendations which gets boring after a bit.

What seems to happen with being G5 Reaper, is other players sell & drop the flag then either log off or attack risking nothing but the supplies on their ship. So it is not all in the Reaper's favor. Then faced with a dead server hopping is the only real option. Each hop is also a gamble that takes time, I have even come back to the same server twice in a row. Once from a glitch & then just dumb random chance. That cost 15min of playtime. The only downside is that say I find a full server, hunt down the nearest ship, and lose, all they get is my flag. Really I think they deserve more.

So I like a suggestion I saw Fuzzy make, here it is with a few adjustments of my own.

If a player hops doing a tall tale, their place on the server is saved for 15 - 20min. If they cancel then they automatically return to the same server. My guess is now that a pirate's life has been going for some time very few people are doing that tall tail so it is unlikely that servers will have a lot of people hopping out of them at once. This would give you the cooldown you wanted BUT we make hopping a grad 5 voyage for each trading company with each working a little different. The best way to implement this is once the performance is upgraded, keep the standard server at 5 with the 6th slot for the hopper.

For the main companies & Athena, they hop into any server whose world event has been inactive for the longest time. The world event closes and a new one spawns depending on the company. This new event has a new unique bit of loot is added to the payout for a new set of commendations for each company. Whatever the item is there are six different colors/versions of varying degrees of Rarity for max replayability. Just not as rare as the SG!

Athena: Spawns a FOF with a Gilded CoL as well as the standard one.
GH: Spawn's standard fort with Horn of gold, the skull of gold etc.
OOS: Spawns ashen winds with the skull of fate, these come in the six different lantern colors each with its own accommodation.
MA: Spawns Skelly fleet, stolen manifest, and crate with 4-5 Wraithballs

For Reapers

Reapers: Voyage costs 10k & this gets added to the payout when the Broken Reaper flag is cashed in. Reapers load directly into the server with another G5 reaper and if none are available then the one with the most emissary flags. This would maximize the PVP play for those who want PVP and give a payout for the "defending" ship. Flame hearts laugh plays for the other emissaries when you arrive giving them a heads up. Better yet, when you hop the first time in a session you get a pink reaper flag, a second time a blue etc until you hit black. Other players sinking you can hand in one of these six colors to the Reapers Hide out for another set of accommodations.

@miserenz

If a player hops doing a tall tale, their place on the server is saved for 15 - 20min. If they cancel then they automatically return to the same server.

I liked what you said, but this is a no. There are more reasons to serverhop than to just PvP. Serverhopping doesn't need to be limited. I'm all for solutions that incentivizing not serverhopping, though.

@xdogglegacy said in Please stop Lazy Players from Server Hopping for Easy Loot.:

@wolfmanbush I am not new to the game I know all these tactics. I still think people that just want to hop constantly are poisonous to the game. I out smarted one guy by decoying him while our rowboat sold our treasure, he taunted me telling me I suck at the game and that my level 5 reaper flag was enough payment. I watched the map as he logged out without selling it to join the next server to find a better loot haul. People that just quick join servers constantly ruin the community, I liked arena as much as the next guy. Removing arena brought all the toxic players that have no time to actually play the game and would rather hop and hop, checking the map and the tables for a lot of action. I don't think a timer that stops people from quick joining more then 3 servers within 5 mins making them wait a bit is not a bad idea.

Some people suck. They really do. The solution isn’t always to change the games design. “Gamer” culture is its own problem. I Idunno why people feel the need to be mean when they win, but they do. That’s a social issue with young men that’s probably never going away.
In the mean time, let’s ban the ones who we can record saying truly heinous things or who message offensive material in Xbox chat.

There does not need to be a cool down on changing servers.

A lot of people get placed on dead servers quite a bit and will want to change (by dead I don't mean empty I just mean a bunch of people sailing about doing voyages or whatever, generally signified by lack of emissaries).

Lots of people, including me, will want to joins server with Reapers and other emissaries so we can go and hunt them down. Telling me to wait 10 minutes to join back after a left a boring server is plain stupid.

If people join and start demanding you sell your loot, just say no. Or brig them. If your teammates join in, then sell because majority wins, open crews have always been a mess anyways.

So I'm conclusion, lots of servers do not suit a players needs, be it a world event they do not wish to do, no Reapers to fight or no emissaries to hunt down. People should be allowed to quit and search again to find another server that's a bit more exciting.

The end.

As I said in another thread, lets tie the portal/server hopping together with things like red sea despawn wall and loot disintegration/Reaper visibility and the rapid decline of emissary population on the server when a Reaper 1 is sighted. Fix one, fix them all. Leave one, leave them all.

Removing portal hopping or the ability to rapidly hop servers manually is fine if we also remove the ability to despawn loot on command and remove the ability for emissary ships to go lower at the first sight of a Reaper 1 crew at a 15 minute sail across the map from you.

Everyone can stay on the server they start, PvE crews are free from instant Reaper 5's UAVing them as they spawn in (hopping removed), PvP crews no longer have to strive for 100% stealth sight unseen from 3 islands away until they are on top of the other ship (red sea no longer allows you to reach the despawn wall to push loot outside of it), and Reapers no longer have to sink emissary ships and then raise the flag and do PvE to up-level before selling to be efficient at hunting emissary ships (Reaper visbility removed until grade 5). Equal battleground for all.

@dynamicmouse18

Wait, this is right under my post...you realise I am for server hopping staying in the game right?

If you meant someone else then fair enough. But my post was about why it should stay :)

@fgfoot said in Please stop Lazy Players from Server Hopping for Easy Loot.:

I dont think you can change it, i dont see any fair way to stop server hopping

By bouncing the player back to the previous server that they were in, by removing all resources they had before the server jump. By actually placing multiple spawn locations far enough for players to scout the horizon and make preparations. "Fair" possibilities are quite expansive, I assure you

@red0demon0
Currently, SOT is limited to 5 ships per server. Server hopping is a way of expanding the game to increase the number of ships that you can interact with. It should not be stopped, it is a great feature. HOWEVER, that does not mean it should not be tweaked a bit. BUT that is a definite no to the losing resources side of things. I would rather drop G5 reaper, raise another for a bit and then go back to Reaper once more emissaries turned up than hop and lose the 50 chain, meat etc. I had spent 2hr collecting then have to fight a over-stocked ship.

My guess is that if something like what I suggested is implemented then what we would end up with is G5 emissaries of all types jumping servers, renewed interest in world events because if the world event was triggered by a hopper you could steal the commendation, people staying G5 for longer to finish the world event to get the commendation etc.

@miserenz said in Please stop Lazy Players from Server Hopping for Easy Loot.:

@red0demon0
Currently, SOT is limited to 5 ships per server. Server hopping is a way of expanding the game to increase the number of ships that you can interact with. It should not be stopped, it is a great feature. HOWEVER, that does not mean it should not be tweaked a bit. BUT that is a definite no to the losing resources side of things. I would rather drop G5 reaper, raise another for a bit and then go back to Reaper once more emissaries turned up than hop and lose the 50 chain, meat etc. I had spent 2hr collecting then have to fight a over-stocked ship.

My guess is that if something like what I suggested is implemented then what we would end up with is G5 emissaries of all types jumping servers, renewed interest in world events because if the world event was triggered by a hopper you could steal the commendation, people staying G5 for longer to finish the world event to get the commendation etc.

That is a lie, the game already has a system in place for helping players migrate to a new server, if it doesn't do it well, then Rare should then focus on making that better. Server hopping is not and will never be an excuse for server migrations. You and I both know the only reason why the majority of players do it is to circumvent the natural original system, taking advantage of the tall tale portal mechanic, to pounce on other players unsuspectingly. Even the original system of player migrations warns all players of the server merge, and drops new players distance away from each other, not smack nearby with full sails and fully loaded with a bunch of different types of balls. One doesn't prep for a server merge, but for sure they do for a server hop. You have your opinion that it's great, I have mine that it's a dumb, extremely flawed system that should have been better tested before it came out. The people who hop to chase after events are in the minority, in fact, it doesn't take too long to collect resources for an event to begin with. Keep resources, fine, let them keep it, but then also don't keep this "feature" hidden behind the tall tale portals mechanic. That is a shady and pathetic way for devs to support such a system. It's like keeping something hidden but still available because you support it but you're ashamed of it

@red0demon0
What is a "lie"? For something to be a lie it has to have two qualities, not be true, and the person stating it must know it to be false. I do not think my posts qualify for the first quality and certainly not the second quality. So please keep it civil.

I hop because I do not want to have to grind back up to G5 again and lose my resources. I want to do the fun part. Every time I finish as well I leave my resources on the dock for a fresh spawn.

I fully think we should have a cue that lets other emissaries know when a G5 reaper turns up through a portal. Just like everyone gets a warning for the server merge.

So did you read my suggestion above coz it seems to be what you want (if portal hopping is kept).

@betrayer244

First off, <Censored> move but perfectly fair. They would have gotten your L5 flag plus any loot you had on your sloop but way to reinforce the running reaper meme. Also, you hopped out of the server so it is not quite what the other players were complaining about.