Saying Goodbye to The Arena

  • @captain-coel awesome brother I’m def gonna try and finish is off here with the time I have, my Xbox tag is LANCH THE BOSS I can play on Xbox and pc. I would love a teammate!

  • @admiralcorporal said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @meroviel Look, Point Blank, this will KILL your game, and here is why. Your team has said that only 2% of the players play arena. However, of that 2% at least 10% of them are new players trying to practice PVP. Two things will happen once you remove arena. Yes, some of the Arena only players will leave the game forever, but others will obviously make the switch to Adventure mode. When they do (with the experience in PVP that they have) they will OWN new players. Think new players get stomped on now? Wait until they are going against people who have been playing nothing but Arena for the last 5 years. Not only will the new players get smashed, they will no longer have an Arena turn to, to get PVP practice. That will be it, it will make the game un-playable/not fun for new players. That, combined with the fact that the game is aging (already 5 years old) and I believe in my own humble opinion, that this will be the beginning of the end for this game.

    You might want to check your calendar … SoT was released in March 2018, so it will be 4 years old in a month or two. Arena was released a year later.

  • @stayin-alive341 It's already plenty toxic, or I just have bad luck.

  • @admiralcorporal 2% of players won’t make that big of an impact on the Seas. It absolutely won’t kill their game, anyone who says so is massively overestimating how this will impact the game.

    Also the game hasn’t even been out for 5 years, much less Arena.

  • @admiralcorporal said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @meroviel Look, Point Blank, this will KILL your game, and here is why. Your team has said that only 2% of the players play arena. However, of that 2% at least 10% of them are new players trying to practice PVP. Two things will happen once you remove arena. Yes, some of the Arena only players will leave the game forever, but others will obviously make the switch to Adventure mode. When they do (with the experience in PVP that they have) they will OWN new players. Think new players get stomped on now? Wait until they are going against people who have been playing nothing but Arena for the last 5 years. Not only will the new players get smashed, they will no longer have an Arena turn to, to get PVP practice. That will be it, it will make the game un-playable/not fun for new players. That, combined with the fact that the game is aging (already 5 years old) and I believe in my own humble opinion, that this will be the beginning of the end for this game.

    First off no one has been playing Arena for five years, pretty sure it came out 2019. Anyways I do not know how satisfied an "arena only player" will be heading into adventure mode to PvP, its just not the same. I play sole PvP games/modes and part of it is the pace of the killing so to say. Adventure mode does not have a PvP pace in my opinion that is satisfying one of the many reasons I do not bother. First off the what do people call them "arena sweats" lol would have to stock up their ship, set out to find someone if they even can some severs are so empty as of late and then once they do find someone may or may not even get to fight them especially if the person runs or scuttles. Im just saying this as a PvP'er it just wont be the same not by a long shot and if anything I can see arena only types getting annoyed and quiting which I totally understand.

    It would be like if my war game went from everyone on the condensed battle field map with the main objective to fight being changed to everyone on a much larger map mixed in with people who are off busy doing PvE and not really interested in a battle. I would stop playing, that would totally ruin the rhythm for me so to say. Just my thoughts anyways.

  • Greetings, my opinion may not change such an important decision as removing sand from the game. The arrival of Reapers changed that alternative for PVP lovers, but even though I'm an adventure-loving pirate I recognize the opportunity that way. What they brought and what they worked on it. They shouldn't remove that option. They should add modes to make cosmetics and titles easier to get. Lately people don't leave Arena and you know it. Mentioning that they would remove it, the community went there to get what they need to have something to remember. People like Arena but there is a lot to do when they keep putting out content and events, pirates postpone. Every time I read that you were hiring I imagined the idea of ​​sitting down next to you and giving you my ideas to make my favorite game even better for a special community. I see the save sand hashtag in every post they promote by someone who should be heard, don't ignore it. If you want ideas for mud to improve sand let me know and I will gladly help you. Mods that can improve the arena multiplayer alternative. The original style leaves it to compete to deliver the treasures (No bonuses or penalties to force the pirates to go for the purple treasure). Additional modes that could be created. 1. Battleships (Circle without islands so pirates have ship wars only) 2. Corsair (Team Death-match/Use Skeletons Forts to) 3. Capture the pirate (Use on Brigs) 4. Greedy Greedy Pirate (Domination/Use big island with galleon to respawn on the north. East, west or south corners. Listen to your community, I'm sure I'm not the only one who sees the possibility of the game and loves Arena. PVP lovers will thank you and the community will grow. try it.

  • I understand the decision to close the arena, but as someone who just started playing 1,5 years ago I certainly feel ripped off, just because the crew i usually sail with didn't want to invest as much in arena as I wanted.. i won't be able to get The Good boy ship set cause I didn't finish it in time. I decided to complete reaper first and then work on arena and the moment I could finally go for that it gets shut down.

    I really wish they'd let us know in advance more so that it's more spread out for people that did want to invest time in it. Now i can barely go for a few cosmetics just because I've only just started to scratch the surface of all i need to do, i only just reached 36 yesterday so i can say goodbye to ever reaching 50 and all commendations (which such as a completionist) and never can i say that i got all the cosmetics either which i was trying to do with all the stores. It's really sad and i wish it didn't have to go.

  • @pasquiorra said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    but as someone who just started playing 1,5 years ago I certainly feel ripped off...

    I started to play in June of 2020. I'm level 50 in Sea Dogs. None of my regular team mates play in Arena. I went into the discord and found a handful of incredibly well mannered, likeminded players when looking for crew and ran Arenas with them when I could. I liked the Arena, but it's flaws are well noted and I'm happy to see it sunset with the hopes that the devs find a way to incorporate some of its spirit into Adventure.

    I'm only going for Legendary Sea Dog because I'm already close.

    I've decided that I won't be spending my time on getting Triumphant Sea Dog because its really NOT worth my time to get an additional 100 kills with the sword, blunderbuss, pistol, and sniper, each. And in the end, I know I'm going to enjoy the bulk of the game in Adventure anyway.

    Rare did not want you to know in advance about the Good Boy. They decided that those who got to Sea Dogs 50 probably liked the game mode enough and wanted to give them a memento of sorts in exchange for it closing. They did not want it to be treated as an incentive for people to suddenly attempt to grind to level 50, and consequently start to complain about all of the bugs in Arena.

    I can see it now "OMG why did you add another cosmetic to this stupid broken game mode" a huge dumpster fire would ignite on the forums.

    People need to stop fooling themselves about how they truly felt about this game mode. It's really insincere and unfair to the Rare team who have all the data to show Adventure was the preferred way to play.

  • @combatxkitty said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @admiralcorporal said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @meroviel Look, Point Blank, this will KILL your game, and here is why. Your team has said that only 2% of the players play arena. However, of that 2% at least 10% of them are new players trying to practice PVP. Two things will happen once you remove arena. Yes, some of the Arena only players will leave the game forever, but others will obviously make the switch to Adventure mode. When they do (with the experience in PVP that they have) they will OWN new players. Think new players get stomped on now? Wait until they are going against people who have been playing nothing but Arena for the last 5 years. Not only will the new players get smashed, they will no longer have an Arena turn to, to get PVP practice. That will be it, it will make the game un-playable/not fun for new players. That, combined with the fact that the game is aging (already 5 years old) and I believe in my own humble opinion, that this will be the beginning of the end for this game.

    First off no one has been playing Arena for five years, pretty sure it came out 2019. Anyways I do not know how satisfied an "arena only player" will be heading into adventure mode to PvP, its just not the same. I play sole PvP games/modes and part of it is the pace of the killing so to say. Adventure mode does not have a PvP pace in my opinion that is satisfying one of the many reasons I do not bother. First off the what do people call them "arena sweats" lol would have to stock up their ship, set out to find someone if they even can some severs are so empty as of late and then once they do find someone may or may not even get to fight them especially if the person runs or scuttles. Im just saying this as a PvP'er it just wont be the same not by a long shot and if anything I can see arena only types getting annoyed and quiting which I totally understand.

    It would be like if my war game went from everyone on the condensed battle field map with the main objective to fight being changed to everyone on a much larger map mixed in with people who are off busy doing PvE and not really interested in a battle. I would stop playing, that would totally ruin the rhythm for me so to say. Just my thoughts anyways.

    You are absolutely correct.

    The arena players who are threatening to wreak havoc on adventure mode are:

    1. Not as good as they think are.

    2. Forget that people can just not engage with them.

    3. Will get bored because of 1 and 2

    I do feel for the TDM people who enjoyed fighting like that. Hopefully, they introduce something where these players can keep fighting like that without needing to create an alliance server over and over again.

  • @dank-jimb0 said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @combatxkitty said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @admiralcorporal said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @meroviel Look, Point Blank, this will KILL your game, and here is why. Your team has said that only 2% of the players play arena. However, of that 2% at least 10% of them are new players trying to practice PVP. Two things will happen once you remove arena. Yes, some of the Arena only players will leave the game forever, but others will obviously make the switch to Adventure mode. When they do (with the experience in PVP that they have) they will OWN new players. Think new players get stomped on now? Wait until they are going against people who have been playing nothing but Arena for the last 5 years. Not only will the new players get smashed, they will no longer have an Arena turn to, to get PVP practice. That will be it, it will make the game un-playable/not fun for new players. That, combined with the fact that the game is aging (already 5 years old) and I believe in my own humble opinion, that this will be the beginning of the end for this game.

    First off no one has been playing Arena for five years, pretty sure it came out 2019. Anyways I do not know how satisfied an "arena only player" will be heading into adventure mode to PvP, its just not the same. I play sole PvP games/modes and part of it is the pace of the killing so to say. Adventure mode does not have a PvP pace in my opinion that is satisfying one of the many reasons I do not bother. First off the what do people call them "arena sweats" lol would have to stock up their ship, set out to find someone if they even can some severs are so empty as of late and then once they do find someone may or may not even get to fight them especially if the person runs or scuttles. Im just saying this as a PvP'er it just wont be the same not by a long shot and if anything I can see arena only types getting annoyed and quiting which I totally understand.

    It would be like if my war game went from everyone on the condensed battle field map with the main objective to fight being changed to everyone on a much larger map mixed in with people who are off busy doing PvE and not really interested in a battle. I would stop playing, that would totally ruin the rhythm for me so to say. Just my thoughts anyways.

    You are absolutely correct.

    The arena players who are threatening to wreak havoc on adventure mode are:

    1. Not as good as they think are.

    2. Forget that people can just not engage with them.

    3. Will get bored because of 1 and 2

    I do feel for the TDM people who enjoyed fighting like that. Hopefully, they introduce something where these players can keep fighting like that without needing to create an alliance server over and over again.

    Also.. have fun actually having to collect and maintain your resources

  • @tre-oni said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @dank-jimb0 said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @combatxkitty said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @admiralcorporal said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @meroviel Look, Point Blank, this will KILL your game, and here is why. Your team has said that only 2% of the players play arena. However, of that 2% at least 10% of them are new players trying to practice PVP. Two things will happen once you remove arena. Yes, some of the Arena only players will leave the game forever, but others will obviously make the switch to Adventure mode. When they do (with the experience in PVP that they have) they will OWN new players. Think new players get stomped on now? Wait until they are going against people who have been playing nothing but Arena for the last 5 years. Not only will the new players get smashed, they will no longer have an Arena turn to, to get PVP practice. That will be it, it will make the game un-playable/not fun for new players. That, combined with the fact that the game is aging (already 5 years old) and I believe in my own humble opinion, that this will be the beginning of the end for this game.

    First off no one has been playing Arena for five years, pretty sure it came out 2019. Anyways I do not know how satisfied an "arena only player" will be heading into adventure mode to PvP, its just not the same. I play sole PvP games/modes and part of it is the pace of the killing so to say. Adventure mode does not have a PvP pace in my opinion that is satisfying one of the many reasons I do not bother. First off the what do people call them "arena sweats" lol would have to stock up their ship, set out to find someone if they even can some severs are so empty as of late and then once they do find someone may or may not even get to fight them especially if the person runs or scuttles. Im just saying this as a PvP'er it just wont be the same not by a long shot and if anything I can see arena only types getting annoyed and quiting which I totally understand.

    It would be like if my war game went from everyone on the condensed battle field map with the main objective to fight being changed to everyone on a much larger map mixed in with people who are off busy doing PvE and not really interested in a battle. I would stop playing, that would totally ruin the rhythm for me so to say. Just my thoughts anyways.

    You are absolutely correct.

    The arena players who are threatening to wreak havoc on adventure mode are:

    1. Not as good as they think are.

    2. Forget that people can just not engage with them.

    3. Will get bored because of 1 and 2

    I do feel for the TDM people who enjoyed fighting like that. Hopefully, they introduce something where these players can keep fighting like that without needing to create an alliance server over and over again.

    Also.. have fun actually having to collect and maintain your resources

    Yup, they also have to cope with curse balls and crews who have accumulated lots of chain shots over a session.

    Closing arena sucks, but only because I actually enjoy the mode. The people who are dooming and glooming thinking there will be this reckoning on adventure mode are being silly.

    Hardcore arena players will probably mess around in adventure, realize the differences, and then unfortunately move on.

    Your average arena player (everyone whining about their cosmetics) will play adventure and use their Iron Sea dog title they farmed off of a friend.

  • please don't get rid of it, it is fun and I have so much recomendations to finish, it is a shame that you close a part of the game where pvp is fun because in there people don't run away they want to fight too. At least consider the recomendations in the main adventure game possibleto be achieve

  • For everyone complaining on this thread you have to understand that Rare’s policies, decisions, and style of communication are exactly the same as hit reg: it’s super important to overall quality and player satisfaction; it’s horribly broken; it will sometimes will benefit you, but mostly it will benefit the other party; you have no choice but to accept it; it’s not going to get better; and it will never be fixed.

    Plus, you’d get much more traction voicing your concerns to your favorite SoT partner then you will directly to Rare. There’s a reason why all the streamers (and their crewmates) were able to play on Community Day when everyone else could not, and it has nothing to do with luck, ping, or location. Get the streamers on your side, and you’ll have a chance of getting Rare to change their mind. But don’t hold your breath and brace yourself for disappointment.

  • @lem0n-curry

    The time lines he mentioned are off but everything else is pretty on point. Without a PvP training ground it’s going to be rough for new and less PvP experienced players to get a foothold.

    I’m not an arena superstar by any means, but I am done with all the adventure mode content and have been spending my time in arena. I was never really a fan of just running through crews just for the sake of doing it but I like not playing at all even less.

    We will see how the sandbox handles it.

  • @ninja-naranja

    I’m pretty sure that one reasonably skilled arena sloop crew could sink every ship they come across in adventure.

    If you have come across them in adventure already, you know this is true.

  • @p3tey-pan said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @ninja-naranja

    I’m pretty sure that one reasonably skilled arena sloop crew could sink every ship they come across in adventure.

    If you have come across them in adventure already, you know this is true.

    Then you're just really putting arena up on some imaginary pedestal of skill.

    Once again.. again.. its 2%, and there's no way in hell you'll convince me that 100% of that 2% up until now was arena exclusive. It's still No different from fighting any other crew that has a chance of being more or less skilled than you.

    Let's all seriously stop pretending arena was the entrypoint to PvP, and the barrier for skill. Arena definitely isn't also PvP training any more so than PvPing in adventure with actual loss and consequence, and.. you know having to make sure you've even got resources

  • @touchiertooth28 said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @pasquiorra said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    but as someone who just started playing 1,5 years ago I certainly feel ripped off...

    I started to play in June of 2020. I'm level 50 in Sea Dogs. None of my regular team mates play in Arena. I went into the discord and found a handful of incredibly well mannered, likeminded players when looking for crew and ran Arenas with them when I could. I liked the Arena, but it's flaws are well noted and I'm happy to see it sunset with the hopes that the devs find a way to incorporate some of its spirit into Adventure.

    I'm only going for Legendary Sea Dog because I'm already close.

    I've decided that I won't be spending my time on getting Triumphant Sea Dog because its really NOT worth my time to get an additional 100 kills with the sword, blunderbuss, pistol, and sniper, each. And in the end, I know I'm going to enjoy the bulk of the game in Adventure anyway.

    Rare did not want you to know in advance about the Good Boy. They decided that those who got to Sea Dogs 50 probably liked the game mode enough and wanted to give them a memento of sorts in exchange for it closing. They did not want it to be treated as an incentive for people to suddenly attempt to grind to level 50, and consequently start to complain about all of the bugs in Arena.

    I can see it now "OMG why did you add another cosmetic to this stupid broken game mode" a huge dumpster fire would ignite on the forums.

    People need to stop fooling themselves about how they truly felt about this game mode. It's really insincere and unfair to the Rare team who have all the data to show Adventure was the preferred way to play.

    I'm surprised you're not as mad as I am. I'm in the exact same boat as you. My main crew wasn't feeling arena so I decided to grind it out in my own time, specifically for the cosmetics.

    I always do the math on these kind of things. If some limited time event is going to take more time than I can put in, I won't bother. But there was no time limit on arena. Which is fortunate because even just looking at the progression from Captain of Silvered Waters as a requirement to Dedicated Sea Dog, it was obvious it was going to be a 6 to 8 month grind for TSD.

    This is worse than if they announced they were going to end a Season a month early. If I was only a few weeks or a month into a grind, it would be annoying, but the timing on this is unforgivable.

    What's next, they're going to announce they're removing the Legend of the Sea of Thieves commendation in 2 weeks, but don't worry all you people with 400 kills, our streamers who play 40 hours a week assure us you can easily sink like 50-60 skeleton ships per week. Not like any of you have plans coming up or anything.

    There's a good reason Renown is gained at the lenient rates they have set. They could easily set it so people need to grind every day to get rank 100 just as the season ends, but they put in fair leeway because at least someone on their team understands it's infuriating to work towards a specific goal for multiple months, then lose out because some random life event happened.

    The timing on this Sea Dogs shutdown is pure dog doo. Do I give up and lose months of work on the only cosmetics I actually cared about, or do I play an unhealthy amount for the next month and potentially still get cut out at 99.99% because of server issues or a work emergency or some new national health issue?

    Huge lack of respect for the time people already had invested.

  • @pandarthias OK, I’ve seen them called accommodations before but recommendations?

    They’re called commendations. All three of those words end the same way but they all mean completely different things.

  • @touchiertooth28

    I 100% get you, and i now understand as a memento for those truly into the game mode it's a great thing, im just sad that i never got to that point where I wanted to spend time on it. I like to work through things one by one and after focussing on all the other factions including the hours grinding on fishing i did want to spend the rest of my time on arena and so did one of my friends, but I'm pretty shy when it comes to playing with random people, especially since I'm really bad at pvp, but the game mode itself i really enjoyed and I've been trying to level for the past month, so it's feels as somewhat of a shame that i didn't preoritize it as much as I should have. If I knew there was a change if it disappearing, i would have done that before hunters call, reaper and farming money for cosmetics.

  • @elthac0

    Completely agree that the execution was just awful here.

    I know it won’t happen but if they cut off Legend of the Sea of Thieves the same way I would find it all too hilarious at this point.

    I keep telling myself that this has to be due to some kind of technical/talent limitation. Removing an entire game mode is going to take some database magic. Based on the way that the game has been running this year, I think it’s fair to say that Rare have some issues to figure out with their database resilience and access architecture. Maybe removing arena simplifies or mitigates some of the issues that they are having due to arenas flawed backend design and is more feasible then hiring the talent to fix it.

    This whole thing reminds me of screwing up enterprise data migrations. Sometimes you just have to tell the user that the cutoff was when you figured out how to make migration backups work and you have no idea what to do without breaking it, “the cutoff is now” lol.

  • @p3tey-pan said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    I keep telling myself that this has to be due to some kind of technical/talent limitation.

    It literally is. The updates to Adventure had a knock-on effect on the upkeep of Arena (see around 29:55):

  • @elthac0

    The timing on this Sea Dogs shutdown is pure dog doo. Do I give up and lose months of work on the only cosmetics I actually cared about, or do I play an unhealthy amount for the next month and potentially still get cut out at 99.99% because of server issues or a work emergency or some new national health issue?

    If they are the only cosmetics you actually cared about, why don't you have them?

  • @grumpyw01f said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @elthac0

    The timing on this Sea Dogs shutdown is pure dog doo. Do I give up and lose months of work on the only cosmetics I actually cared about, or do I play an unhealthy amount for the next month and potentially still get cut out at 99.99% because of server issues or a work emergency or some new national health issue?

    If they are the only cosmetics you actually cared about, why don't you have them?

    Not defending anyone specifically but that particular guy looks like he has a ~50% w/r in arena and he has only been playing about a year. That kinda w/r lengthens getting TSD stuff unlocked by a good margin because you first need to get the full glorious SD set and that requires 100 top three finishes. So basically he is looking at 200 games minimum from the point he gets 100 top 3s.

    Without being an Arena main 100% of your play time and having a 50% or less w/r, that will take quite some game time at ~2 rounds an hour (~20-30 min waits in the lobby have been very common this past year)

  • @touchiertooth28 said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @p3tey-pan said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    I keep telling myself that this has to be due to some kind of technical/talent limitation.

    It literally is. The updates to Adventure had a knock-on effect on the upkeep of Arena (see around 29:55):

    A better example of this fact is In the original post of this topic.

    One other factor is particularly important. In December 2020, we announced that we had stopped active development on The Arena. Despite this, over the last couple of years, the work we’ve been doing to expand the overall Sea of Thieves experience with new mechanics, areas, quests and more has had an ongoing knock-on effect on The Arena, due to just how much is shared between the two modes. As a result, The Arena has required considerable development work just to keep it functioning in its base state, and would continue to represent a significant ongoing workload for us – which is ultimately what leads us to the decision we’ve shared with you today.

    They also alluded to this in the Preview Event in their initial statement, found at 11:04:

  • @kommodoreyenser said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @grumpyw01f said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @elthac0

    The timing on this Sea Dogs shutdown is pure dog doo. Do I give up and lose months of work on the only cosmetics I actually cared about, or do I play an unhealthy amount for the next month and potentially still get cut out at 99.99% because of server issues or a work emergency or some new national health issue?

    If they are the only cosmetics you actually cared about, why don't you have them?

    Not defending anyone specifically but that particular guy looks like he has a ~50% w/r in arena and he has only been playing about a year. That kinda w/r lengthens getting TSD stuff unlocked by a good margin because you first need to get the full glorious SD set and that requires SD 50. So basically he is looking at 200 games minimum from the point he hit SD 50.

    Without being an Arena main 100% of your play time and having a 50% or less w/r, that will take quite some game time at ~2 rounds an hour (~20-30 min waits in the lobby have been very common this past year)

    I can understand ~50% winrate for a being around GSD and I can understand only playing for the past year. But if Arena cosmetics are the only thing you care about, a year is plenty of time. Especially this year, as much as I've played, if you boil it down to content, most seasons have been 2-3 weeks of content followed by an event every month. There's been plenty of time to focus on hitting PL/commendations.

    I have never had matchmaking as slow as 2 rounds an hour. Of course, I'm not a regular Galleon Arena player, but that seems way too low of an estimate. If I were getting something that bad I would switch crew type.

  • @touchiertooth28 I can't, Joe Neate really said Anniversary update brought in rowboats lolll

  • @grumpyw01f said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @elthac0

    The timing on this Sea Dogs shutdown is pure dog doo. Do I give up and lose months of work on the only cosmetics I actually cared about, or do I play an unhealthy amount for the next month and potentially still get cut out at 99.99% because of server issues or a work emergency or some new national health issue?

    If they are the only cosmetics you actually cared about, why don't you have them?

    Because it takes a long time.

    Matches are a fixed 15 minutes with 30-90 second loading bumper on each end, and at least 3 minutes in the tavern lobby. You get 3 matches per hour.

    You need a bare minimum of 300 games played to get Dedicated Sea Dog, but more realistically the choke-point is Sea Dog Sailor, which you need to hit rank 50 before you can even start to grind it. That's 150-200 matches + 200 more matches. Even if we're conservative and take the lower number that's 117 hours.

    If you can dedicate 2 nights per week to arena that's 19.5 weeks, or 5 months. Not including any extra matches you need to do to farm weapon kills, because those generally lag behind. And I don't always have 2 nights per week just for arena.

  • I'm one of the players who barely touched arena in the grand scheme of things. I got to level 50 rep, just 'cause but haven't cared much else for it. I do want to get my hands on the Pirate legend weapons from the hideout though. After this announcement , I thought "Huh, a month or so to get what I need for the commendation required to get those weapons, I can do that." After a day or so of arena...no...pretty weapons...but I don't care enough about the process to get them to make them worth the effort.

    The post mentions a new set is being worked on and in times past, that has happened through reskins to preserve what payers did to get the originals (Eg, bonecrusher). I hope not, because I'm self-aware biased and want these weapons. I totally get if peeps want to side with a reskin for that reason, but on the flip side, It always pushed the wrong buttons with me that the weapons from the pirate legend set required you to play a different game mode. Like... "You gotta play the pinned on competitive mode if you want the full get up...and play it a lot..." The argument I've seen frequently here is "You've have had 2 years to get this stuff and your mad now?" aaaaaand yeah, I've not cared about arena ever and I don't care about it now. The sea dog and triumphant sea dog sets I don't mind about, they're meant to be tied to arena rewards. But pirate legend stuff is adventure stuff.

    I feel like I'm rambling at this point, but I promise the salt is only surface level, lol.

    Also be nice if the new sets were "Kill 1000 skeletons with pistols" ect ect, rather than 1000 players or something. I know its a PvPvE pirate game, But I kinda prefer that the legend cannons are 'sink 500 skeleton ships' and not player ships.

  • @ookissmyasheoo
    First idk how you got the conclusion it will not be renewed. Second even if it does not in no way does that mean the game is going to end and stop being supported.

    Example: Payday 2 lost the license to John Wick, was never renewed, so they just removed the ability to purchase the content and the game kept being supported. Maybe the pirates life tall tales at that point may never be accessible again, but in no way does that mean the game ends.

  • @sirfandango you have to remember, sea dog 50 can be one of the companies you use for PL. That is why the weapons are tied there.

    As for a reskin, the poat makes it sound more like a new model similar colors than a recolot of the existing. The current legend weapons will be time limited.

    The current arena given the influx isnt bad, my mate and I played on alts last night and went 7-1 in sloop arena. felt good getting in 8 matches in 3 hours.

  • there was a time before arena, and now the time after the arena will come.
    i think it was a long time to do the LSG Weapons.
    And when they are go away, the should be gone, like other old Skins like Barnicle. its just how it worked so far. i just think it would not be fair to give out Arena stuff after it. players who grinded it earn it.

  • @p3tey-pan said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @ninja-naranja

    I’m pretty sure that one reasonably skilled arena sloop crew could sink every ship they come across in adventure.

    If you have come across them in adventure already, you know this is true.

    I dont know about that, pretty bold statement. There are alot of skilled ships in Adventure who are very deadly it is not like Arena is the only place one can learn to PvP. I learned PvP by fighting multiple ships back in my fort days for example. The arena only sloopers have the disadvantage of not being familiar with Adventure Mode fighting which is different. Not saying they wont win but to say they can sink every ship they come across ummm no I dont think so.

    Of course you can think as you please.

  • I suggest that after the arena closes, leave the achievement "legendary fighter" but change the receipt of it in order to open new skins for the leg. fighter

  • Hey Rare team and fellow pirates,

    I do not normally type on these sort of forums but feel that if I don't state my opinion then I am complicit in the change that is coming. I also believe in the power of people and that if we shake the tree maybe an apple will fall. I started playing SoT a little over a year ago and fell in love with it because it offers a truly fair pvp system. I found arena to be an excellent training ground and an experience that truly was amazing from last second chest steals to scraping the win with a few last cannons shots. I can complain about getting the commendations but I don't actually mind those so much. I am a new dad and sometimes the only time I get is an hour which is just enough to have a few amazing rounds of Arena with friends. I am sad to see this game mode go and will play it until its gone. I just want you to know that maybe it is only 2% that log in to play but to that 2% it can be amazing and wonderful time. I am sad to see it go and I hope you find some way to keep the pvp alive.

    From a fellow pirate, fair winds and following seas

  • @ninja-naranja said in Saying Goodbye to The Arena:

    @admiralcorporal 2%....

    Also the game hasn’t even been out for 5 years, much less Arena.

    Sorry, 4 years, fat fingered the 5, I meant to hit 4.

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