Ghost Mode

@lordvader1o1 first: tall tale have checkpoints for a while now...if someone sinks you, change server and start from your checkpoint on the voyage table
Second: what does stop me from starting a tall tale, enable that ghost mode of yours and then I do whatever I want, except the tall tale?

Not even needed. The Tall Tales alone are very easy to complete and can be repetitive. What makes them interesting is trying to compete them in a world filled with threats. This would be like playing Among Us to complete easy tasks without others being able to kill you. The threat of others is baked into the DNA of the game, including Tall Tales. Once you completed the tall tales with instanced areas, did they feel rewarding and did you really see a reason to repeat them? Anything you lose to another crew related to a tall tale can be retrieved very quickly now that we have checkpoints. We don’t need a special PvE/ghost mode.

I don't want this to sound like I'm dismissing other people's experiences, but every time I see a post like this, I really wonder how much of a real problem this is.

Over the holidays, I replayed all Tall Tales with a friend who had never done them. And I mean all of them. The whole Shores of Gold arc, Flameheart and A Pirate's Life. We encountered a toxic crew only once over two weeks, and even then, I actually spotted them and I took the risk to let them board us because I wanted to get somewhere quicker and take my chances. Otherwise there would've been no issue. Everyone else we ran into, sure they tried to give chase or attack, but it didn't really happen all that frequently and we escaped pretty much every time. One time we did sink someone who shot at us because we felt like it, but we weren't really looking for fights. All this was on PC servers, I've played the game for a year although I devote myself mostly to PVE, and my friend was pretty inexperienced.

In other words, it seems to me like running into other people isn't even that much of a thing during Tall Tales anymore (it was far more common a year ago, let alone when A Pirate's Life launched), and if it does happen, it does elevate the experience and it's not particularly difficult to deal with. It's certainly easier to learn how to escape from people than to survive direct fights.

So yeah, I get the frustration but I honestly think this is something most people just need to get through during their first weeks in the game, and eventually they'll realize it's not that big of a deal and will wonder why it seemed like such a problem just a dew days before. It really isn't.

@lordvader1o1 sagte in Ghost Mode:

@schwammlgott said in Ghost Mode:

@lordvader1o1 first: tall tale have checkpoints for a while now...if someone sinks you, change server and start from your checkpoint on the voyage table
Second: what does stop me from starting a tall tale, enable that ghost mode of yours and then I do whatever I want, except the tall tale?

I said clearly that GHOST MODE was Tall Tale only. You cannot do anything else.

People will find ways...like, can you interact with gunpowderbarrels that lie in the water? Just grab them and swim near another ship...BOOM...
Whatever you say, it won't work the way you think...

@mostexpendable sagte in Ghost Mode:

When I got my gold curse a year and half ago, I think I got attacked two or three times during the entire experience. That really isn't much.

This ☝🏻
We did the tall tales in the first 2 months of theyr arrival and had also not much fights during that time...there were overall less to do in the game and attacks were more common...it seems to me most of these threads are from crews who got unlucky once or twice and then instantly came here to make an issue out of something that isn't really an issue...

@lordvader1o1 sagte in Ghost Mode:

You all seem to forget that reapers is now a thing and it is encouraged to attack other players. I have been attacked 4 times during the POTC tall tales. And about 12 times doing the main TT’s. It has only gotten worse since they brought in emissaries and reapers. Just three days ago when my friend wanted to finish Shroudbreaker. We were again chased by a brig.

First: Don't put an emissary on
Second: reapers make no difference, if anything then it's just easier for the tall tale-crew, because they can see them on the map

@lordvader1o1 said in Ghost Mode:

@dlchief58 said in Ghost Mode:

I can't help to feel you may be exaggerating just a bit as I do not share your experience

Hold on, just because it has not happened to you doesnt mean it hasnt happened to me? I am not exaggerating and it is unfair to assume this. I have plenty of friends who choose not to do Tall Tales because even with the checkpoints they still get trolled by some sloop or reaper brig that just want death to the seas and will chase us down when we are half way through the TT's, we lose our items and totems or whatever is needed and then we need to travel back to the island of the TT and do all the stuff again which is far too much of a faff and then theres a big chance that the same troll is waiting to see you again just to chase you and kill you for no reason at all. Again there is no incentive to play the TT except from the story itself, a ghost mode only activated and deactivated at the main menu, inability to earn any gold or dabloons, no access to events or emmisaries and cannot be damaged except from AI ONLY when encountered on the TT. Will allow a great way to play the TT without being trolled but also without being farmable.

Being attacked and sunk is not trolling. It is a major aspect of the game. Being attacked and sunk is not for “no reason at all.” No one can look at another ship and determine what they have on board. Now there is so much treasure floating on the water and just laying on the beaches that a ship can have several items in just a few minutes of playing. If you are truly being attacked that often then you are doing an absolutely terrible job keeping an eye on the horizon and responding to threats in your area.

Also, if you want to be left alone then do not join emissaries before you set off for a voyage or tall tale. That system was designed to enhance PvP. It is not simply a loot multiplier. I don’t know if you are joining them, but somehow or another you are making yourself into prey for other crews if you are getting attacked as often as you claim.

And as far as another crew attacking you multiple times as you try to complete a tall tale, just change servers and get back to what you were doing. These scenarios you are coming up with are easy to solve by using what is already available to you without undermining the game.

@lordvader1o1 sagte in Ghost Mode:

@ghostpaw said in Ghost Mode:

@lordvader1o1 said in Ghost Mode:

@dlchief58 said in Ghost Mode:

I can't help to feel you may be exaggerating just a bit as I do not share your experience

Hold on, just because it has not happened to you doesnt mean it hasnt happened to me? I am not exaggerating and it is unfair to assume this. I have plenty of friends who choose not to do Tall Tales because even with the checkpoints they still get trolled by some sloop or reaper brig that just want death to the seas and will chase us down when we are half way through the TT's, we lose our items and totems or whatever is needed and then we need to travel back to the island of the TT and do all the stuff again which is far too much of a faff and then theres a big chance that the same troll is waiting to see you again just to chase you and kill you for no reason at all. Again there is no incentive to play the TT except from the story itself, a ghost mode only activated and deactivated at the main menu, inability to earn any gold or dabloons, no access to events or emmisaries and cannot be damaged except from AI ONLY when encountered on the TT. Will allow a great way to play the TT without being trolled but also without being farmable.

Being attacked and sunk is not trolling. It is a major aspect of the game. Being attacked and sunk is not for “no reason at all.” No one can look at another ship and determine what they have on board. Now there is so much treasure floating on the water and just laying on the beaches that a ship can have several items in just a few minutes of playing. If you are truly being attacked that often then you are doing an absolutely terrible job keeping an eye on the horizon and responding to threats in your area.

Also, if you want to be left alone then do not join emissaries before you set off for a voyage or tall tale. That system was designed to enhance PvP. It is not simply a loot multiplier. I don’t know if you are joining them, but somehow or another you are making yourself into prey for other crews if you are getting attacked as often as you claim.

And as far as another crew attacking you multiple times as you try to complete a tall tale, just change servers and get back to what you were doing. These scenarios you are coming up with are easy to solve by using what is already available to you without undermining the game.

I never mentioned I used emissaries when doing TT's and I am pretty good at getting away from other players but they still chase and eventually catch up OR we find a player has snuck up to us when we are in a cave or something. I can fight just fine and avoid players when I am in a TT but you cannot always avoid it, I don't ALWAYS have issues, I am not saying that, but when I do get issues its hard to stick to the TT's. There is no real incentive when the rewards are bad and the story is interrupted by players

So...do what @MostExpendable said...don't run...and if they still try to kill you over and over...change server
You're making such a big issue out of such a small thing

Imagine instead of people running the red sea or shores of gold they just place a tall tale down and disappear.

@ssolutionss sagte in Ghost Mode:

Imagine instead of people running the red sea or shores of gold they just place a tall tale down and disappear.

Another reason it's good the way it is

@lordvader1o1 said in Ghost Mode:

I hate this kind of situation where some players struggle to enjoy different aspects of the game and when they provide feedback and suggestions to make the experience better without affecting the overall SOT experience

And this is why you will fail to persuade the community or the development team to change course. You do not recognize how these kinds of changes DO impact the experience. You are looking through a very limited perspective. Here is an example. Portals were introduced to allow for a couple of instanced tall tales because there was a certain kind of story they wanted to tell that required a new area. Seems innocuous enough right? And yet that one mechanic changed the way crews move from one server to another. Crews can now shift servers without losing their supplies or emissary progress. This means watching the map table is no longer enough to keep an eye on Reapers progressing to level five. A well stocked level five reaper crew can now just appear in your server. And ships can just come out of nowhere if you happen to be near a portal. One small change changed the gameplay for everyone. A PvE ghost mode would certainly impact gameplay for everyone. That you do not see it just indicates that you do not understand the bigger picture here.

It is unfair to just shroud out players who bring up their concerns. their experience is just as valid on the seas as yours.

Any player can make any kind of suggestion they like. The team sees them. A good idea will stand up to others challenging the idea. This is not a suggestion box. This is a public forum where ideas are presented and challenged. There is not some post number or upvote threshold a thread has to reach to before the team is aware of it. Who is stifling voices or opinions? No one. But do you really think a PvE-only mode is so unique an idea that the team has not already considered it over the past several years? Really? This is just another PvE-mode suggestion.

@lordvader1o1 sagte in Ghost Mode:

feedback and suggestions to make the experience better without affecting the overall SOT experience

You have obviously no clue what you are talking about, because THIS WOULD AFFECT the SoT experience

It's part of the game to be in a constant paranoia mode and expect to be attacked every moment, if you can't deal with that, I suggest you to play something else

@lordvader1o1 sagte in Ghost Mode:

@lem0n-curry said in Ghost Mode:

@lordvader1o1 said in Ghost Mode:

@lem0n-curry said in Ghost Mode:

As soon as something like this would be introduced it would make the checkpoints for TT obsolete.

Say goodbye to starting Shores of Gold if you want to escape through the red sea.
Say goodbye to starting one of the PotC TT and not be on an Outpost to get through a Portal.

Hmmm... might be worth supporting for this reasons only ...

No, TT checkpoints are still very much useful, Maybe you are on a sloop and want to stop half way through to set up a brig and invite another friend in or whatever. TT Checkpoints are still useful. But the way this Ghost Mode works is just for TT's and you would need to exit back to the main menu to be able to do any events etc. You cant just stop a TT half way through and suddenly decide to go do a fort with GM activated.

If you don't have time to finsih a TT, you shouldn't start one. The checkpoints wree introduced to help people who were getting attacked, sunk or robbed of the TT items. If that's no longer on the table: remove checkpoints.

I disagree, TT are essentially SOT's campaign. A campaign can be finished at whatever pace the player wishes. If they want to do back to back TT's then fine. But if they want to take their time and pause whenever they reach a checkpoint then they should be able to do that, which they currently can.

Checkpoints are made because some people struggled, got attacked and came here to cry about it like you do...
This is Rare's game, they don't want to seperate it, that's why they added checkpoints instead of seperating the TT

These tall tales were added in the first anniversary and checkpoints came over a year later...I don't remember when exactly, could be later, because I finished them all already 5 times to get the gold curse looong before the checkpoints came and we got attacked less than 5 times during that...not because of luck, BECAUSE WE WATCHED FOR INCOMING THREADS

@lordvader1o1 said in Ghost Mode:

I give up trying to suggest a none exploitable mode where you can’t earn gold or dabloons, attack or be attacked so you can enjoy the TT’s without the problem of Toxic players. If I can not even get my point in the door then there is no point even fighting for it. It is ridiculous how quickly new ideas are shot down before having the chance to even grow.

Lol! What door? You made your suggestion and no one stopped you. Many of us just have a different perspective and we shared our opinion. That is not shutting out an idea. Discussing ideas is what a forum is for. Are you really that angry that the community wasn’t receptive to your PvE-mode? We don’t make the decisions. Rare does. I am willing to bet more than one person at Rare reads these and saw your suggestions.