So what exactly is fair about a Skeleton Galleon being able to spawn against a Sloop?

  • Doing Athena voyages and we hear the usual Skeleton ship sound, the horn. We expect to see a sloop pop up, but no, a Skeleton Galleon comes up instead.

    There was literally nothing we could do, it kept ramming us over, and over, and over, we tried ditching it at islands, it would just circle the island and fire all 4 canons on us. We would try to board, but with only two of us, we'd get overwhelmed easily by the amount of skeletons and eventually die, causing them to open fire on us again.

    We just had to abandon our Voyage and log. There is absolutely NOTHING fair about a Skeleton Galleon spawning against a Sloop, it will follow you relentlessly until you sink, there's quite literally nothing you can do about it. You can't output enough damage with one canon against their infinite supply of skeletons repairing the ship.

    Infuriating and poor game design, some of the decisions made by the developers on this game lead me to believe they've never actually played the game before.

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  • I might be wrong, but didn't Rare make an update that allowed sloops to only encounter cursed sloops as a random spawn only?Can anyone else confirm if this is intended or a bug?

  • generally the only time you get a galleon as a sloop is when you're near a larger ship and it bugs out and spawns it on the sloop

    I've seen galleons spawn on sloops rarely but only when a bigger ship was around to bug it out

    it's possible a random pre spawn just spawns so close that it triggers as well

  • That’s not what happened here. The Galleon literally spawned specifically for us. No other ships. We were completely alone near Golden Sands, heard the skeleton ship horn, waited for a Sloop to pop up, and low and behold, it’s a Galleon instead. And it relentlessly fought us for over 30 minutes until we just have up.

  • As the above said.

    1. it was a glitch.
    2. Sloops are only meant to see sloop skeleton ships.
    3. only should happen if near a brig or galleon ship. Or near a fleet
    4. it happens. Rarely.

    That about all. Nothing can be done, just fight or run.

  • @garnetdivine
    @red0demon0 is right about the developers changing the spawns and limiting the skelly sloop as the only one to spawn directly on a player sloop. Unfortunately he's also correct when assuming there could be a bug allowing skelleons to still spawn on sloops. They made the change a long time ago but sloops still randomly but rarely have skelleons spawn on them.

    Saying there is literally nothing a sloop can do against a skelleon is just flat out wrong though. I have soloed hundreds of skelleons on a sloop. Sometimes two at a time. Don't get me wrong, they are tough, but definitely manageable weather you want to fight or run.

    You say you used islands to get them away from you. That works, but if it didn't in your case than you didn't put enough distance between them and you. Don't just use the island, take advantage of the wind and put as much space between your ships as fast as you can. This is done more easily depending on how much water the skelleon has in it. The more water, the slower it moves. Doing some damage to the bottom deck will fill it some and slow it down.

    You say you boarded them. Also a great tactic. Pressure on the skeletons up top will keep them from shooting your ship, while pressure on the skeletons below can keep them from repairing holes. You can put a hole in the front of the skelleon on the bottom deck, and a pirate that boarded can guard it very effectively since that hole will be located in the ship's brig, making it very easy to defend from repairs.

    Keep in mind that skeletons don't have buckets. Once water gets on their ship, it can't be removed unless a player removes it. Ramming them (or them ramming you) makes holes, which take on water, and every drop adds up. Ram them and keep your ships together side by side, don't repair the hole in your ship, and continually bucket water from your ship to theirs. They will sink, and the best part is their cannons can't hit you.

    Chest of sorrow can be an easy way to take one out as well.

    Use firebombs on their cannons to kill the ones trying to shoot, and then hit your cannon shots below the waterline until they go down. Some green cursed cannonballs work really well since they essentially stun the skeletons preventing them from any activity, and of course peaceballs and ballistballs are amazing when timed right.

    The seas are dangerous and unforgiving. It isn't just pirates you have to worry about. Skelleons are meant to be a challenge or they wouldn't be fun, just annoying. Even though you ended up losing the battle, I hope you at least learned something that will help you in your next encounter. Try not to think about skeleton galleons versus player sloops as something that needs to be changed. Instead try to think about what you could change with your tactics to overcome them. I guarantee it will be much more satisfying sinking a skelleon after they have been such a problem for you.

  • @mintharp184509 don’t Skelly ships just drive over small islands? And sometimes the bigger ones too.

  • @GarnetDivine Stop saying literally, please.

  • Whoever promised you anything about sailing in SoT is supposed to be fair?

    Sure an AI galleon does not usually spawn on a sloop, but obviously it can happen.
    Two pirate's on a sloop can be capable of sinking a galleon.
    Accuracy at the waterline, cursed cannonballs, a bit of luck, it all makes for a great story, eh.

  • Skeletons galleons don't spawn on sloops, you must've sailed into a skeleton fleet

  • @garnetdivine

    Unless player 2 enters the fight you should be able to kill a galley in a solo sloop with little trouble. Bail onto the galley when it rams you and stay below when you are in its broad side.

  • @garnetdivine regardless of the circumstance, it's been confirmed to be a bug. Please go ahead and send out a bug report to @rare-employee in the support tab of the website to create a ticket. Hopefully they can become aware of this bug and terminate it for all in the future. :)

  • Next time a skelly gally spawns on you, steer into them so they can't fire cannonballs at you, and bail water into them.

    Skelly ships are basically free loot, you really shouldn't ever sink to one, especially if you're not solo.

  • @wolfmanbush sagte in So what exactly is fair about a Skeleton Galleon being able to spawn against a Sloop?:

    it's possible a random pve* spawn just spawns so close that it triggers as well

    This is it probably...had 2 times already such an encounter and both times I was near the spawnpoint of roaming skellie ships...still it's funny music starts before it appears imo
    And as you said, this happens pretty rarely, so nothing to report here...

  • @garnetdivine This is a rare encounter, I explained it in the post before...for the possibility that it happens again to you: try not to ram them all the time, just once and then pull the wheel all the way to them and put the sail half way or so up, so you are about the same speed and you can stick side by side to them, now when you have a hole, don't fix it and just bail water onto them...when you're more experienced and you know a bit how they react, you can solo a whole skellie raid with this little trick

  • Had this happen for the first time last night battling a reaper brig. They got the first spawn on them, a skelly sloop, which we thought was odd (definitely on them as they were almost a square away from us)

    Then after we sank their skelly ship and continued the fight, a skelly galleon spawned on our sloop…

    Didn’t make a difference, we still sank that one as well and won the fight with the reaper for some sweet stacked ashen winds and Flameheart loot.

    Just wondering what the real problem is? There used to be a time where skeleton galleons DID spawn on sloops, krakens took some thought to kill, and mega weren’t such a pushover. I miss the days when the PvE could actually hold its own and we didn’t need huge HP pool bosses to hold us engaged for more than 30 seconds.

  • @kommodoreyenser said in So what exactly is fair about a Skeleton Galleon being able to spawn against a Sloop?:

    Had this happen for the first time last night battling a reaper brig. They got the first spawn on them, a skelly sloop, which we thought was odd (definitely on them as they were almost a square away from us) (…)

    AFAIK when sailing a brigantine either a Skalleon or a Skloop can spawn on you - not a bug.
    Getting a Skalleon to attack as a sloop is either bad luck (random spawn that gets triggered because of proximity I guess) or a bug. No harm in putting in a support ticket to get the latter fixed.

  • That sucks, but the points I was going to make have already been mentioned above. So, I'll say this. You did what you could, but skelly ships get sudden bursts of speed when you get far enough away, so keep that in mind.
    Good luck, and be safe.

  • @garnetdivine they're really not that hard when on a sloop. What are you going to do when you encounter a player galleon? As long as one person is on board taking them off repairs and one is hitting Lower deck they sink. It's a challenge no doubt. And lately they curse one after another, but npc ships are more predictable than players and if you think that's unfair, you should definitely be getting better at naval than focusing on voyages.

  • You really need the practice and to get better at the game, it's not too difficult staying alive on a Skelly ship. Challenge yourself, you'll be a better pirate because of it

  • @garnetdivine said in So what exactly is fair about a Skeleton Galleon being able to spawn against a Sloop?:

    That’s not what happened here. The Galleon literally spawned specifically for us. No other ships. We were completely alone near Golden Sands, heard the skeleton ship horn, waited for a Sloop to pop up, and low and behold, it’s a Galleon instead. And it relentlessly fought us for over 30 minutes until we just have up.

    Even if it was a bug it’s not like they’re indestructible. Have you not completed the skeleton fleet on a sloop? You regularly fight two skeleton galleons at once there. Even the emergent ones are a huge deal. Try going for lower deck shots and have someone guard the holes so they sink.

  • @torski87 i assume he will do what 99% of other players do when a sloop encounters a player galleon that wants to fight. sink

  • I've had a few spawn on solo sloop. I also go towards them if I have a keg on the island and nothing much to lose, a good kegging sorts them out.

    I've never had trouble shaking them though, skim a rock or island and they almost always crash into it.
    If they are right to you then an anchor turn let's you zip away with a good lead.
    Leading them into another player can also be a good tactic.

    They are really only trouble when a player is chasing which really screws you over because you can't shake them without the player getting shots on you too.

  • I remember the patch in question saying differently. I was always under the impression that the rate of which a Galleon could spawn on a sloop was lower, however, only the rate meaning that Galleons could still spawn on Sloops.

    That being said, others have already beat me to it. To sit here and act as if a single Galleon spawning on a sloop is game-over is a far cry from reality. You talk of boarding, but that is quite easily the easiest way to do it. One boards, the other shoots. You describe it ramming you constantly, well there seems to be plenty of opportunities to do this. One goes straight to the bottom of the ship while the other pokes holes. The boarder kills patchers, even if you fail the first time, whatever water was gained stays. If you fear their cannons, sweep their cannons with your own cannons. Alot of what people do to other players equally applies here with AI ships.

    Its completely fair, the PvE is a joke in this game. Give it time, and you can do it too. Are you brand new? If that is the case, everything will seem unfair at that stage. It won't be long until you will be laughing at what you wrote here in the future.

  • It’s awesome that’s what. Imagine killing 500 Skeleton Galleons for your Legend of Sea of Thieves title.

  • Had the same, spawned right on me. Only happened once, but it never did stop following. I used every last cannon ball I had and it just wouldn't sink

    it was not a regular gally, it had a dif color sail

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