@oddpoem71481766 No you not, you will get banned for in game chat/voice while you spawn camping but not for spawn camping itself. So you have to keep your chat/voice to minimum and keep blundering folks.
If you dont want to be spawn camped than scuttle. Simple as that. Unless Rare makes official statement saying this is not allowed, we are assuming its fine to do it.
We spawn camp almost every ship we fight, in fact few weeks ago we end up spawn camping one of the streamers by accident.
We joined server, and encountered a ship with grade 5 reaper full stack of goodies, and when we started spawn camp we started getting messages from some random people calling us names etc. Than one of the messages said we are spawn camping streamer while he is broadcasting to large viewership.
After they rage quit, we went back looking through recent players and found the streamers. Sure enough we are on the video.
Spawn camping + trolling
@jadescissors32 Nah, people have been banned for spawn camping and you're in denial because you need spawn camping to stroke your ego. This is not up for debate. I have seen screenshots and spawn camping is bannable, even if you say absolutely nothing.
Hi everyone,
In order to make sure misinformation is not spread I will jump in here. Spawn camping itself is not directly bannable. That being said should it turn into harassment (following the same player across the server and doing it many times), or become toxic through either verbal or text insults, then it will result in a ban.
I hope this clears things up a bit!
I don't partake in the activity and wouldn't unless somebody was asking for it by nature of their behaviour but really appreciate it when someone steps in to clarify things, thank you!
(My son might do it a little bit occasionally while I'm filling them with cannon shot but we're not into torturing folk..)
@oddpoem71481766 said in Spawn camping + trolling:
@jadescissors32 You can get banned for it and people have. The issue is that nobody knows it's bannable and most people do not bother recording it. In fact, the entire reason someone worked with CheaterSoT to DDoS the website and servers is because he was mad he got banned for spawncamping.
It wasn't spawn-camping. If he is the type of person to DDoS attack the website then he got banned for something else in relationship to spawn camping.
There are different levels of spawn camping as there is different levels of trash talking.
Some of it is acceptable and some is not. Its not some obscure line, the line is pretty apparent on where not to cross.
If he got banned for spawn camping then he was systematically chasing down the same ship only to spawn camp it. Sees the same ship in the distance and goes after it simply to spawn camp it again.
I've spawn camped ships before and have definitely been reported. Still here broski.
There is such a thing as taking things too far. Either your friend got caught saying something he shouldn't have or he took the spawn camping too far by singling out the ship, seeking it out, just to spawn camp it.
Congrats, you just played yourself.
@draco-khan5531 said in Spawn camping + trolling:
Spawn camping shouldn't be a thing after 3+ years of development.
There need to be 5s of invulnerability after spawn and the more spawn camping happens the longer the invulnerability phase.Such a mechanic would pretty much stop spawn camping in a heartbeat.
The fix already exists.
Scuttle.Hi everyone,
In order to make sure misinformation is not spread I will jump in here. Spawn camping itself is not directly bannable. That being said should it turn into harassment (following the same player across the server and doing it many times), or become toxic through either verbal or text insults, then it will result in a ban.
I hope this clears things up a bit!
There have been multiple threads on whether or not camping (for negligible things like target practice) should be bannable, and I appreciate you stepping in to clarify.
What you've said is what I always suspected was the case; and it's why I don't worry about losing my account.
If you wouldn't mind answering a follow up question on the subject: what about camping a crew that interferes with a TDM? Nowadays, to avoid risk of account bans/suspensions, TDMers will often send only one crew to camp the interfering one. But, what would happen if more than one crew participated?
Typically, push-back against this sort of camping is that the crews are "teaming". Though in other games, teaming/boosting is usually done to help opponents win a match. Arena TDMers are rarely ever a threat to crews that are truly seeking to win. Points gained from camping interfering crews are rarely ever enough to compete with points gained through other means.
In my opinion, unless you're chasing after players to harass them out of a lobby, it should be acceptable for members of more than one crew to camp another. But my opinion doesn't matter lol. What matters is what Rare finds acceptable. Please help shed some light on this as well.
@swgsomekid Your chance to defend yourself came at the beginning of the fight, and if you are solo, the only reason you still technically have loot is because they haven't sunk you yet. Scuttle and go get more loot. Or waste half an hour dying repeatedly until you log off out of frustration.
@nuklrghandi said in Spawn camping + trolling:
@swgsomekid Your chance to defend yourself came at the beginning of the fight, and if you are solo, the only reason you still technically have loot is because they haven't sunk you yet. Scuttle and go get more loot. Or waste half an hour dying repeatedly until you log off out of frustration.
This to me translates as "I love spawn camping. I need spawn camping to win. I can't keep up if my opponents actually have a chance to rally. Whaaaaaaaaaa...don't take away my favorite toy to abuse."
Get over yourself. Rare admits the respawn loop is flawed. Recent podcasts and them trying to implement changes to it on the test servers are pretty solid proof of that. In no other PvP game is camping encouraged. In fact it's often the cause of scorn for the campers. And sadly these same players who insist they have to camp to win are the first to say "Git Gud Noob". Ship to ship combat in this game is basically a fight between teams to capture and hold a base. A well balanced and designed game allows even a player who has had their base infiltrated the chance to rally and take back what is theirs.
You all keep saying "but you lost", but in game terms that battle isn't over until my ship sinks. "You can scuttle" you will say. And i will reply that having only the choice of go back and be camped or scuttle (concede) and pray i spawn far enough away is frankly terrible game design and should have been addressed long before now.
Rampant unchecked toxicity both in terms of chat and play styles is this games single biggest flaw. Rare has done little to discourage it which is a big part of why the pvp/pve debate rages on.
So what if your pvp fights get that little bit harder, they are meant to be the hardest fights in the game...and they are meant to be fights. Blunder sword sword, wait a bit, repeat...that's not a fight. It's not fun and engaging gameplay. It's being a d*#k because you're afraid you actually couldn't win a fair fight.
The solution i proposed works equally for everyone. It doesn't prevent camping but does make it harder. There is no invulnerability period for anyone and if you are thrown from the boat or stunned its your own fault for being somewhere you shouldn't have been anyway.
It makes you actually have to think about how you defend strategic points because your roles in the fight are reversed, denying assets, preventing repairs.
"But spawn camping does all that at the same time" and again is terrible game design. One sided fights are only fun for the victor and can actively drive away players who are just trying to enjoy their time on the sea. To which you will likely again just say "but they can scuttle" completely missing the point.
A game is meant to be fun, not just for you but for every player. Period.
So stop whining. Learn what a cannonball does. Learn to support your boarders from the cannons of your ship. You can still sink people just fine, but if they want the chance to fight back, let them have it. You have the same advantages and disadvantages they do, no balance issue, you just have to learn how to defend what you have taken and the same would go for them.
Because it's also bad game design if there is only one way to win. Fortunately, Rare politely forgot to make that one.
@draco-khan5531 said in Spawn camping + trolling:
Spawn camping shouldn't be a thing after 3+ years of development.
There need to be 5s of invulnerability after spawn and the more spawn camping happens the longer the invulnerability phase.Such a mechanic would pretty much stop spawn camping in a heartbeat.
Spawn camping is no longer the meta at this point and it is mainly a relic of the old ways. If you wre being spawn camped it is because they are looting your supplies or simply don't have the cannonballs to sink you quickly.
Stop asking for hand-outs to suppliment your failure. A good player could completely save their ship with 5 seconds of invulnerability and an entire crew could have most of the ship patched in that time.
However, there is a surefire way to never ever get spawn camped again. Wanna know how? Scuttle your ship. Boom. Done. Dont like that? Maybe guard your ladders? That is one of the easiest things to keep better crews off your ship. Next time learn how to fight and play the game before requesting changes that completely break the game
@oddpoem71481766 said in Spawn camping + trolling:
@jadescissors32 You can get banned for it and people have. The issue is that nobody knows it's bannable and most people do not bother recording it. In fact, the entire reason someone worked with CheaterSoT to DDoS the website and servers is because he was mad he got banned for spawncamping.
Im not finding anything about it being bannable
And i've done it plenty in 4 years time
Yes, spawn camping sucks, but if you can’t fight your way out of it, just scuttle your ship. The character loads in before your screen will, so you will always be at a disadvantage when being spawn camped. If it happens, it sucks, say GG and scuttle or leave. If they trash talk, ignore them, you’re better than that. If it’s racial slurs or hacking, then report them.
Either way, spawn camping is already solved, regardless of what people say. Scuttling may suck, but I would rather lose virtual loot with no real meaning than be angry and frustrated at a tiny group of people who play differently. It sucks, yes, but these things happen. There is no proper way of preventing it, and there is no proper solve (us pvp’ers find a way, no matter what).
Happy sailing, and good luck with PvP. It is so unpredictable nowadays. 🛳⚓️
