FotD/FoF need an improvement.

  • To provide some background info beforehand, I have started playing this game somewhere mid last year when emissaries were about to be introduced.
    So basically since day one of my SoT carreer I rooted for playing as emissary to boost the money output for delivering loot so I could buy that expensive stuff from the now former Black Market.
    After a long break of several months I'm back now and about to complete the emissary special event. Also still grinding for money.

    I recently completed the event task to open 2 vault doors of skeleton forts which was also the first time that I ever touched these forts.
    What I have to note about this whole fort experience is how underwhelming it was. The tuckers that ruined one of my attempts were even the smaller annoyance.
    The thing is, the loot just isn't that great compared to what I get for doing missions and afterwards emissary tasks for my respective company. The emissary grade 5 boost is just enormous.
    Completing the fort grants an insta-boost for a new emissary flag to grade 3, but only a part of the fort loot is even relevant for the emissary grade and affected by the boost unless I sail as Reaper.

    What is disappointing about the fort battle as well is also that it just doesn't feel like I'm actually assaulting a fort. The whole fortification structure, except the cannons, isn't manned by any skeletons, instead the AI behaviour of the whole wave is just the same as when doing an OoS mission on a generic island.
    As my last gripe, what direction are streamer fanboys and other crews who wish PvP usually heading to? Not to some random islands where I stop by to get my easy emissary loot, that's for sure. So why even bother with that risk when there are other lucrative ways? Only when I'm bored, drowning in money already and just want to meet that final boss and perhaps other players (if they even come in great numbers nowadays)?

    I know that these skeleton forts were once really hyped but I have also seen a recent post here describing how no one seems to be really interested in forts anymore.
    In context with the emissary feature this rather confirms my impression that the forts, as they are right now, are dated and need to be put more in line with everything else.
    Like by adding more or just better loot (instead of a lot of minor GH trinkets) into the vault and make the fort more challenging or immersive to complete. The worst that could happen here is that it re-ignites greater PvP action.
    The only upside I see in forts right now is that they're completed rather fast together with a halfway competent crewmate and serve well as additional runway to get higher emissary grade as mentioned above, PvP risk put aside.

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  • Yep forts are a PVP risk. As intended. That’s why a lot of people like them. Myself included.
    Rather than asking Developers to fix something that you subjectively dislike, perhaps you could try to request a different kind of Fort or feature from the ground up. Have a brainstorm.
    Because right now FOTD and FOF are doing exactly what they were intended to do.

  • I don’t think the FoF or Fotd needs a buff.

    Just doing the FoF once as an Athena emissary will get you to at least grade 4.5. I don’t know if you’ve done the Athena voyages, but this is huge for being able to complete the fort in 40 minutes.

    The Fotd doesn’t have the best loot, but you can start it on-demand. If you’re lucky and don’t encounter PvP, you can keep stacking it for hours.

    1. The forts are well balanced. I don't think any of them needs loot boost.
    2. Boosting loot will not fix outdated and numerously recycled content. Adding new islands, mechanics and monsters will.

    O.T. @deckhands you did a dozen updates on the forum in the last couple months, and still haven't fixed the bullets bug? Despite from not adding Downvote button? Slacky, slacky... Oh, what's this? I can't even leave an empty line between my paragraphs either?

  • @mostexpendable sagte in FotD/FoF need an improvement.:

    Yep forts are a PVP risk. As intended. That’s why a lot of people like them. Myself included.
    Rather than asking Developers to fix something that you subjectively dislike, perhaps you could try to request a different kind of Fort or feature from the ground up. Have a brainstorm.
    Because right now FOTD and FOF are doing exactly what they were intended to do.

    @mostexpendable I don't quite get what's your problem here. What I suggested is just the same fort, but a bit uptuned so there's a greater motivation to do them instead of just emissary stuff for great money. Which would also mean more beloved PvP for you because more people will come for the forts.
    Why do you want an extra fort type if that makes the vanilla forts just downgraded versions in comparison?

    @greengrimz I also suggested adjusting the skeleton AI so it interacts more with the fort structure, so there you go with an idea to fix outdated content.

    @aribalam So are you telling me that one needs to be Athena emissary in order to maybe surpass emissary missions and stuff from other companies?
    Well, with other emissary runs you can hoard and stack over hours too. I mean for GH it just means walking to those several spots per island and dig out one captain's chest up after another. Easy going.

  • Sounds like a good idea, I would love it if skeletons could defend forts better and if you get better loot.

  • Can you make more money doing voyages? Yes. The big boy forts arent really really about the gold though. FoF has a ton of athena's loot. Great way to get reputation if you arent interested in doing voyages. FoTD also has at least one athena, with the potential for as many as you want to stack/ wait for to steal. FoTD also has a ton of rubies for turning in to hunter's call rep.

  • @trial0n I just said Athena emissaries for FoF. They're filled with Athena loot, so an Athena emissary would be the right choice.

    For the Fotd reaper would probably be the best, but you can choose whatever you want. If you'll be stacking it, you'll get grade 5 in any trading company.

    Athena emissaries also do surpass other trading companies. Yes the other companies voyages are easier, but Athena loot is way more valuable. Once you get the Athena emissary quest you can get tons of Athena loot, even a chest of legend.

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